Please be kidding my friend. If you are building a professional workflow that requires a gimmicky input device that is only present on a 2000 dollars machine then you will not get very far in any career.
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'Constant Negativity' From Pro Users Led Apple to Develop Modular Mac Pro, Which May Not Ship Until 2019
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Not to burst anyone's bubble but "People and source's who know their stuff" is the lamest excuse for a source ever. Do we really believe that Apple would admit the new MBP's are not great, not selling as good as previous models, and need to have the touch bar (their main selling point) removed? Especially since we know the new MBPs were in extremely high demand, and have gotten great reviews from more level headed reviewers.
Ooohhhh... what a surprise..... Apple transformed the MacBook Pro in an expensive toy, and then had "negative response" and "constant negativity" from Pro users....
The ports are just a convenient excuse. The price is the bigger deal, particularly since it doesn't come with any of the legacy adapters. The original MacBook Air shipped with display adapters, and the iPhone 7 shipped with the headphone jack adapter. We don't hear many complaints about the audio jack on the iPhone 7. Apple should include a dock in the box for next year's version and lower the price a bit.
Apple can't build a building and a decent computer at the same time.
I don't think the Touch Bar will be removed. What I imagine is selling two versions, one with Fn keys, one with TB. If they added a new feature like this and removed it after one iteration there would be proper riots, not just on forums.
I also wonder why the people who constantly post "just buy 49 dongles, USB-C is the future, everyone wants USB-C and nobody cares about HDMI, the new MBP will smash all records" haven't been posting here? /s
I also wonder why the people who constantly post "just buy 49 dongles, USB-C is the future, everyone wants USB-C and nobody cares about HDMI, the new MBP will smash all records" haven't been posting here? /s
Apple shouldve thrown in broadwell xeons and maybe some updated gpus for now.
Exactly. It could be ready for WWDC 2017. Then design a brand new model for 2018, 2019 or year 3000.
I don't see it as contempt. Companies don't have some obligation to produce products that don't sell well enough to affect the bottom line. They are in this to increase shareholder value. The Mac Pro is an odd duck because there is an argument to be made that it's important to the ecosystem. I sorta buy that, and I definitely want a new Mac Pro.. but I might see it differently if I was running Apple.
I've been posting. I still think those concerns are overblown. People probably were more upset about the price. Had there not been a $300 premium for the Touch Bar models I doubt people would have complained about having to buy an adapter or two. Remember those are one-time purchases.
"I have no idea how long it takes to develop a new computer like a Mac Pro, but I think we can expect the new Mac Pro late 2018 at the earliest, but most likely it won't be until early 2019 before it ships."
- I love this. Now put that into the headline for click bait. If he has no idea - the words "most likely" shouldn't follow in that sentence.
- I love this. Now put that into the headline for click bait. If he has no idea - the words "most likely" shouldn't follow in that sentence.
Maybe in the interim, Apple can resurrect the cheese-grater Mac Pro with updated components.
how about you add some ports back to the MBPs. Then, We'll talk, Apple
Well, we can't really take stock in this as its only hearsay, but I think it's really depressing. Despite all their on the record talk the other day, what I take this to mean is that Apple really is moving towards our worst fears. They really don't care about the pro market, or anything that can't be shoved into a tiny ultra-thin package. The Mac may really not be their priority as we've feared. This looks like they are doing "something" to placate a lot of complaints they were hoping they wouldn't get. While I was heartened by their words a few days ago, now I fear that they are going to throw a Mac Pro at the problem and then go back to their old ways.
OK, so maybe I went a little overboard on "not practical" but when you compare it to the 2015 model, it's painful to live with. I travel to different clients a lot and I have yet to see any business with a USB-C input on their video projector or TV. I always have to plug into HDMI. It really is nice to not have to carry any dongles around. Someone hands me a USB thumb drive? No problem. Wife hands me the SD card from her DSLR? No problem.
I completely agree that USB-C is the future, but they could have kept the same casing as the 2015, replaced the 2x thunderbolt 2 ports with thunderbolt 3 type-Cs, and would have had room left over for some of those new batteries from the MBr.
That's a bit unfair, it definitely improves productivity. It wouldn't make me reconsider a purchase though I have to say.
Maybe the constant negativity stems from the fact that they failed to refresh the machine on a semi-regular basis. Users expected a lack of modularity with the new design, what they didn't expect was nearly four years of neglect. Given the previous pipeline, they would have been close to unveiling a third update to this current form factor.
Phil and Craig need to get their heads out of their asses when it comes to this. People were pissed because they were forgotten.
Phil and Craig need to get their heads out of their asses when it comes to this. People were pissed because they were forgotten.
One of the things that made the Aluminum Mac Pro nice was the design that didn't use a ton of off the shelf parts. The memory tray, the CPU tray, the drive bays, etc. It also did a good job taking off the shelf parts when it came time to upgrade.
If they want to recapture that feeling, they are either going to have to "fix" the old design so they can sell it in the EU, or start from scratch. Doing a standard ATX case would be pretty lazy, and capture precisely 0% of that feeling.
Well, there's one slight problem with that. You can't really know for sure where they are at just from the press conference. There's two equally valid situations:
1) They realized things were going sideways a while ago, changed direction, but the negativity needed to be addressed as it was reaching crescendo.
2) They started seeing things going sideways, and as the negativity reaches crescendo, changed direction and addressed it.
From an exterior perspective, these two things don't look all that different without any evidence to point in either direction. I'd be unsurprised by either one, honestly. And as someone who works in the industry, I've learned that neither armchair speculation over why a company failed to do X, nor the crafted bit of PR from said company, are likely to be the truth. The truth is also probably much more bizarre, yet mundane than people tend to imagine.
The idea of paring the iPad Pro to a Mac to use as a drawing tablet is a no brainer.
Yeah, nowadays Apple changes direction with the speed and agility of Microsoft in the Balmer era.
It took them 3 YEARS to realize the Mac Pro was insufficient, and they let it languish while they ponder. They have more money and resources than anyone, yet they can't execute. Sad.
2019. LOL.
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Both iPhone and Pro hardware are 3 years behind the competition. That's failure and Ive and Cook both need to be sacked. Tim Cook in particular seems to be more interested in being cool hanging with rock stars than pushing out decent hardware.
I had to buy a Win 10 PC to run my Oculus Rift, because there literally isn't any Mac that has a fast enough video card to run it, not even as an option. It was my first experience with Win since Win7 and I have to say it has DRASTICALLY improved.
On the mobile side, I think the only thing the really prevented Samsung from pulling away last year was the bomb factor in the Notes. Apple got lucky. In fact, the only reason I'm still in this game is the still excellent OS software and the tight integration. However, that only goes so far...
If they release one more iPhone without Quickcharge, I'm done. I'm sick of having a dead phone by 11AM. (6S+)
(And I've owned every single new generation iPhone except the 4S and the 7.)
[Fanboi alert off]
Good luck Apple.
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Both iPhone and Pro hardware are 3 years behind the competition. That's failure and Ive and Cook both need to be sacked. Tim Cook in particular seems to be more interested in being cool hanging with rock stars than pushing out decent hardware.
I had to buy a Win 10 PC to run my Oculus Rift, because there literally isn't any Mac that has a fast enough video card to run it, not even as an option. It was my first experience with Win since Win7 and I have to say it has DRASTICALLY improved.
On the mobile side, I think the only thing the really prevented Samsung from pulling away last year was the bomb factor in the Notes. Apple got lucky. In fact, the only reason I'm still in this game is the still excellent OS software and the tight integration. However, that only goes so far...
If they release one more iPhone without Quickcharge, I'm done. I'm sick of having a dead phone by 11AM. (6S+)
(And I've owned every single new generation iPhone except the 4S and the 7.)
[Fanboi alert off]
Good luck Apple.
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Here's the thing, Apple dropped the ball on the Mac Pro and 2016 Macbook Pro. At least they've admitted it and are going to do something about it. Call it "negativity" or call it "positive criticism" the results are the same. They are finally going to produce what the paying customer wants. Lets not forget, we pay these peoples wages with our hard earned money. They are not untouchable Gods.
I'm surprised the switch to USB C was more controversial than the headphone jack removal!
To be honest, I think the touch bar (and Touch ID) are nice. But clearly there's a problem with the RAM limt among other things.
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The iPhone 7 is equivalent to a 2013 Android phone? Maybe if you just look at screen resolution. But built quality, processor speed, the camera, security, fingerprint sensor, battery life, graphics, the OS, etc. No way I'd rather have a Galaxy S4.
To be honest, I think the touch bar (and Touch ID) are nice. But clearly there's a problem with the RAM limt among other things.
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The iPhone 7 is equivalent to a 2013 Android phone? Maybe if you just look at screen resolution. But built quality, processor speed, the camera, security, fingerprint sensor, battery life, graphics, the OS, etc. No way I'd rather have a Galaxy S4.