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I just saw this and what a blow to Apple!

What other "magical" non working design can they (Apple) come up with?:eek:
 
If the software update does not improve the issue for customers, there may actually have to be some form of recall, or extension period to return the product, way past Apple's original window.
I don't see what a recall would accomplish. It's based on the assumption that the antenna issue is an 'oops' moment and that they can fix it with a simple manufacturing tweak. They knew this would be a potential issue from the day they finalized the design on paper, then they looked in the crystal ball and said "meh, it's the iPhone. People would rather hold it differently than live without it."

The crossroads probably dates back to 2008 or so, and there's no turning back. A fix would require extensive redesign. Extensive redesign would take them a year or so. Meanwhile they'll have to make do with damage control, bumper sales, cosmetic sofware updates, distractions, wagging the dog...
 
So, why are you booking passage on a ship you're convinced is going to sink. You brag about your five-figure investment (yawn) in Apple products, but don't expect them to be around after the Apple "bubble" pops. No wonder there's a difference between your balance sheet and Apple's.

That's just it. I'm not convinced it's going to sink IF I can get it to turn around.

My balance sheet, by the way, is not a bubble.

:apple:
 
CS is full of morons anyways.

I hate it when customers come in and start by saying, "Well Consumer Reports said blah blah blah."

If you like Consumer Reports, then listen to them and you do not need our help.
 
Not a brilliant antenna design.


Not a brilliant antenna design.


Not a brilliant antenna design.

SteveJobs said:
"Now WHAT does an Apple iPhone need a brilliant antenna design for in the first place? 10 year olds will line up to buy it anyway, and half of THEM will drop and break it before any faults are discovered.

The rest can be easily persuaded, along with a complicit press we will buy, that it's a DESIGN FEATURE. And CUTTING EDGE.

Because in the future, mobile phones won't NEED ANTENNAS. Indeed, people won't need mobile phones because they will have Apple iBrain chips implanted directly into their brains.

Of course, the antennas in those iBrain chips won't work either if the user is standing upright.

You see, the Apple iPhone 4 is SUPER-ADVANCED, from a time in the future where even iBrain chips won't NEED working antennas!!

Apple: Where marketing beats the pants off innovation and simple functionality every single time.

(Taken from Apple's Marketing Plan Handbook by Steve Jobs; subtitled "How I Learned to Love the Blu-ray and the Flash")

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I was waiting for this to become the hot topic of the day. No need for me to officially join in. Just need to chill with my iPhone 4 and have some popcorn. No. Ice cream would be better. Ok. Forum Drama take 62!!!
 
Now WHAT does an Apple iPhone need a brilliant antenna design for in the first place? 10 year olds will line up to buy it anyway, and half of THEM will drop and break it before any faults are discovered.

The rest can be easily persuaded, along with a complicit press we will buy, that it's a DESIGN FEATURE. And CUTTING EDGE.

Because in the future, mobile phones won't NEED ANTENNAS. Indeed, people won't need mobile phones because they will have Apple iBrain chips implanted directly into their brains. You see, the Apple iPhone 4 is SUPER-ADVANCED, from a time in the future where phones won't NEED working antennas!!

Of course, the antennas in those iBrain chips won't work either if the user is standing upright.

Apple: Where marketing beats the pants off innovation and simple functionality every single time.

(Taken from Apple's marketing plan Handbook by Steve Jobs)

:apple:

You should ask yourself how Apple got so many fans in the first place. Wasn't it making brilliant, genius products in the first place? Who had an iPhone when it come in 2007? Nobody!
 
You should ask yourself how Apple got so many fans in the first place. Wasn't it making brilliant, genius products in the first place? Who had an iPhone when it come in 2007? Nobody!

You mean the lucky blessed ones, before the dark times?

:apple:
 
You mean the lucky blessed ones, before the dark times?

:apple:

Dark times for who? Apple is sitting on $30 billion and about to take over the TV streaming business and who knows what else. Get on the iLife bandwagon or be left behind. :apple:
 
Btw... you'd think that Apple would get the most important feature right the first time?


Oh, that's right... Apple doesn't do *anything* wrong. We're the one's that are wrong.


Riiiight.


What's that again? Didn't Steve Jobs back in 2007 say something about the "killer app" of the iPhone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_teRloJf6yE


Truth hurts... doesn't it?


w00master
 
Yeah

I don't see what a recall would accomplish. It's based on the assumption that the antenna issue is an 'oops' moment and that they can fix it with a simple manufacturing tweak. They knew this would be a potential issue from the day they finalized the design on paper, then they looked in the crystal ball and said "meh, it's the iPhone. People would rather hold it differently than live without it."

The crossroads probably dates back to 2008 or so, and there's no turning back. A fix would require extensive redesign. Extensive redesign would take them a year or so. Meanwhile they'll have to make do with damage control, bumper sales, cosmetic sofware updates, distractions, wagging the dog...

You're probably right! I just see some of the news and panic a bit.
 
Dark times for who? Apple is sitting on $30 billion and about to take over the TV streaming business and who knows what else. Get on the iLife bandwagon or be left behind. :apple:

Straight from the night crew Cupertino Apple boiler room.... paid by the word?

Posts like this are like being forced to listen to Leo Sayer whine "Long Tall Glasses"

Apple can dance... you know it can dance, it can dance...


:apple:
 
Straight from the night crew Cupertino Apple boiler room.... paid by the word?

:apple:

I should get paid! :eek:

Alas, I only own a Macbook but I want to buy into the FULL iLife if possible. Windows 7 so far is good enough, we'll see.
 
We could be headed back to the the 1950s-60s. Someone with the problem needs to take a wire coat hanger, wrap some tinfoil around it like a flag, jam the tip into the mic hole and hope for the best. A redneck alternative to Apple's special "calling condom".
 
now i am even sure that you need a brain surgey. apple builds product for general public and not nerds like you who cant afford it therefore can only talk **** about it.

Now that's sad. Once upon a time Apple cared about the nerds. Now it only seems to care about the Applebee's crowd. :apple:
 
I should get paid! :eek:

Alas, I only own a Macbook but I want to buy into the FULL iLife if possible. Windows 7 so far is good enough, we'll see.

P.S. Apple,under Steve Jobs, can't even walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone dance.

:apple:
 
Now that's sad. Once upon a time Apple cared about the nerds. Now it only seems to care about the Applebee's crowd. :apple:

Apple only cares about the Disney crowd. But not the ones growing up now on Blu-ray who'll get their computers from someone, anyone else.

:apple:
 
That's just it. I'm not convinced it's going to sink IF I can get it to turn around.

Holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap. :eek: You believe that it's up to you to save Apple by smearing them? You're kidding me. You're on a mission? You are the Apple messiah? There's tin-foil hat crazy, and then there's I-am-Jesus crazy. You, sir, are a completely different crazy than I had first assumed. I had thought you were just a give-me-attention type. At worst, a government-is-trying-to-control-our-minds crazy. But it's far worse than that. You are dress-up-in-robes and bomb-the-abortion-clinics-to-save-the-babies crazy.

Two points, in light of your declared "mission" to save the world:

1) You are not making a bit of difference by posting here. At least not in the way you claim to want. You are just annoying a bunch of people, and causing widespread hatred of your insufferable guts. I might have been sympathetic to your plight, but you are so goddamn obnoxious, it makes me hope that Apple discontinues the Mac Pro altogether (and I was even planning to buy the next one). Do you really think Apple is going to change because of what you write here, you ******* crazy lunatic? No one here takes you the least bit seriously, posting photoshopped pictures of Steve Jobs as Osama bin Laden and ranting about "bubbles" that never seem to burst (but like the apocalypse, are perpetually "just around the corner", "coming any day now", and "eagerly anticipated"). What makes you think Apple execs are going to think you're anything but what you are? A ****ing lunatic.

2) It is not your goddamn responsibility to "save" Apple. If you don't like what they're doing, then switch to MS or Linux. Seriously. You are just creating noise. It is neither your responsibility nor your privilege nor your place to irritate everyone just because you aren't getting what you want. No one "appreciates" your little messianic efforts. We resent you.

And you've been posting here all day long for what? Because Apple hasn't updated the Mac Pro? Seriously? This warrants your I-microwaved-my-baby-to-save-the-whales caliber insanity? They updated Mac Pro last year. Must you really have a new one every year? Failing that, do you really feel that you must "take matters into your own hands"? It's a business. They're out to make money. They don't owe you ****. They will very likely get the first batch when Intel steps up to "Sandy Bridge", and you'll get your refresh in Q1 of 2011.

They're a business. They sell a lot more iPods than Mac Pros, and they don't owe you anything. You are a ****ing craaaaazy piece of ****. Seriously.
 
Apple only cares about the Disney crowd. But not the ones growing up now on Blu-ray who'll get their computers from someone, anyone else.

:apple:

I just wish Steve Jobs wouldn't say idiotic things like "the desktop is dead" now that the iPad came out. I'm sure millions of iMac, mac Mini and Mac Pros owners don't appreciate that. Can't Apple kick ass in desktops AND the iDevices?
 
And you've been posting here all day long for what? Because Apple hasn't updated the Mac Pro? Seriously? This warrants your I-microwaved-my-baby-to-save-the-whales caliber insanity? They updated Mac Pro last year. Must you really have a new one every year? Failing that, do you really feel that you must "take matters into your own hands"? It's a business. They're out to make money. They don't owe you ****. They will very likely get the first batch when Intel steps up to "Sandy Bridge", and you'll get your refresh in Q1 of 2011.

They're a business. They sell a lot more iPods than Mac Pros, and they don't owe you anything. You are a ****ing craaaaazy piece of ****. Seriously.

I can understand the point you're making but it must be frustrating for some people to see constant(monthly) spec updates on PC server machines and the Mac Pro only once every 2 years.
 
That's just it. I'm not convinced it's going to sink IF I can get it to turn around.

My balance sheet, by the way, is not a bubble.

:apple:

Neither is Apple's. How do you expect them to go bankrupt with no debt to speak of, and about $12 billion in cash?
 
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