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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

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Tony78228 said:
why would that 6 plus bend easier than the 1st 6 plus?
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Because on this test, he positions his thumbs right behind the volume buttons and also exerts the opposing force right on the edges of the phone, rather than spreading them with his fingers.

He made this video to show that the phone bends, not to be objective, and it shows in his hand action.

...BTW - first post! (long time lurker)
 
fmcarv said:
Why on earth in real world would you apply a two point load on the phone in the same position as Lewis from Unboxing Therapy?

That's the only case I've seen that can produce bending on the volume rocker area

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From 90 to 150

How did you get 2x from..

crap at Maths??

And since the Note 3 is a beast of phone thick as a brick its hardly surprising.

Compare the crash capacity of a Smart Car and that of a Hummer....
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Criticize someones math when they exaggerate in one sentence then exaggerate the Note 3 being a "beast of phone thick" in the next.
 
For those of you who believe most posting here are from legit and honest concerned individuals about the new iPhone......

Stop bring so naive.

The phone does not have a problem.. The issue was fabricated by the competition out of fear.
Today they were proven wrong by CS.. An independent agency!
Competition got a pie in their face..
Now they are swarming the forums to keep the conversation going to maximize damage to apple.
They lie, manipulate and lie.. And now they are trying hard to discredit CS test.
It is pathetic.
It is a clear as daylight .. Don't be naive and fall for it!
 
WalterTizzano said:
Actually applying the force in the middle of the phone you're giving it the worst possible condition because in the middle the stress will be higher than if you applied the force in any other position. If you applied the force where the button are the maximum stress would be indeed there, but this maximum stress would not be higher than the one in the middle or in the volume buttons area when you applied the force in the middle. This is a very basic problem of statics
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I think you may be a bit confused.

Anyway, the centre of the phone is actually not that far from the bottom volume button. We need to conduct some mathematical inquiry. Specicially in regard to:

1. How much weaker is that weak spot, assuming it's weaker using some number factor to represent this;
2. Obtain a coefficient of how much more force needs to be applied to the weak area, if any, by x intervals (0.01 cms) from c (centre point)... +/- output whether it's more or less force; and
3. Run a calculation that will output whether the area of weakness offsets any increase in force needed to be applied to that area of the phone to deform it being farther from the centre.
 
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coolfactor said:
One thing that I notice that differs with these "by hand" bend tests is the uneven forces applied at different points on the phone case. Both Apple and Consumer Reports did "3-point tests" which apply even, distributed force at 3 points across the phone's frame. When bent by hand, the forces are applied unevenly, and that may be the killer difference for the iPhone 6. It doesn't seem to have a solid, one-piece frame.

I'm sorry to say, but I have to agree - the iPhone 6 definitely seems to have a flawed construction. Is this a manufacturing problem or a design problem?
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When bent by hand your applying a moment at both ends where the palm of your hand is twisting the ends and a two point force in the middle where the thumbs are pressing the backplate.

This would never happen in real life
 
apolloa said:
Not to say anything but..... this didn't take a whole lot of effort!


Some of the bystanders swoar a little by the way.

Perhaps it's like some magic tricks? Bend it in that right spot in the right way and off it goes? Oh and I think he didn't put any effort into that Moto X so has falsified that result IMO.
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Do you seriously consider what he's doing on that video as a normal usage behavior? Seriously?
Do you consider that similar to put a phone in your pockets?

This entire issue is just ridiculous.
I can't believe Apple haters could reach such a low level......
 
cynics said:
Criticize someones math when they exaggerate in one sentence then exaggerate the Note 3 being a "beast of phone thick" in the next.
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Have you ever seen the sheer size of the Note....?? Thickness wise??

You're not that clever are you?
 
yansun said:
If you can bend the phone as much as shown with your hands, it's completely impossible that under certain circumstances the phone could bend to a minimal extend at the "weak spot" near the volume buttons in your pocket?
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Unless you have Hulk's legs and wearing very tight jeans than yeah find it impossible.....
 
Turbo Tony said:
Because on this test, he positions his thumbs right behind the volume buttons and also exerts the opposing force right on the edges of the phone, rather than spreading them with his fingers.

He made this video to show that the phone bends, not to be objective, and it shows in his hand action.

...BTW - first post! (long time lurker)
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Lol.. He also made a video showing iphone 6 was stronger than iphone 6+
Which was proven absolutely wrong by CS today !

But ofcourse CS has no credibility.. But this bribed Canadian does!
 
heartlegs said:
What..? Did you not watch the video? Did you not see him try it on the moto x?
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Who cares about the Moto X? The point is: you don't have to apply that kind of forces on a thin light device, because there is no reason to do that.
He's trying hard to break a phone.... since when that is considered "normal usage"???
 
Max(IT) said:
Do you seriously consider what he's doing on that video as a normal usage behavior? Seriously?

Do you consider that similar to put a phone in your pockets?



This entire issue is just ridiculous.

I can't believe Apple haters could reach such a low level......
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They did because when they saw the Apple keynote followed by 10M phones sold on launch day in just a few countries they **** their pants....
 
booksbooks said:
I think you may be a bit confused.

Anyway, the centre of the phone is actually not that far from the bottom volume button. We need to conduct some mathematical inquiry. Specicially in regard to:

1. How much weaker is that weak spot, assuming it's weaker using some number factor to represent this;
2. Obtain a coefficient of how much more force needs to be applied to the weak area, if any, by x intervals (0.01 cms) from c (centre point); and
3. Run a calculation that will output whether the area of weakness offsets any increase in force needed to be applied to that area of the phone to deform it being farther from the centre.
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Then do that on all other current smart phones, assuming all cases have weak spots.. The test done by CR was equal in all models that were tested.
 
H2SO4 said:
What they should have done for each phone is;

1. Put some regular jeans on. (Regardless of your size shape you can probably get a set of regulars).
2. Place phone in pocket.
3. Carry out 10 of each day to day movements with phone in pocket which may be -
Getting into and out of car.
Sitting down on a sofa or on a stool.
From seating position at a desk bend over to pick up pen.
Crouch under table to plug something in.

Re-examine phone.

Not exhaustive but surely the kinds of things we all do?

These need to be done in addition to the scientific tests and ALL the results considered TOGETHER.
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Yeah... I want to see those types of tests. Pocket tests.

And then run the same tests with a few cases too.

I'm also curious to see if this "Uri Geller" can bend an iPhone with a hard OtterBox on it.
 
I don't get it. The iPhone 6 is still about half as strong (70 to 130) as the other "non premium" & cheap phones. And we are all happy about it?:rolleyes:
 
Trapezoid said:
I must say I found it amusing how the guy with his hat backwards became every android fanboy on MRs idol for a couple of days. They were straight up worshipping that guy!

It was really amusing. I was amused.
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And he'll be even more of an idol when they see just how easily the iPhone 6 Plus bends in his second video. It's rather scary and disappointing to say the least. What he did by applying uneven force at different points was more realistic and actually more practical than Consumer's even-force testing.

The iPhone 6 Plus design (and perhaps the iPhone 6) is not as structurally sound in comparison to most other smartphones. Let's not pretend that it is.
 
lookatchu said:
And he'll be even more of an idol when they see just how easy the iPhone 6 Plus bends in his second video. What he did was more realistic and actually more practical than Consumer's test by applying uneven force.
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And i am even more amused how people cant see what you are up to here!
 
fmcarv said:
Have you ever seen the sheer size of the Note....?? Thickness wise??

You're not that clever are you?
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Yes, I owned one for over half a year. Its was much thinner then the BEASTLY UNGODLY THICK 4S I'm using now. Due to its design the edges were around the same as the iPhone 5 and thickest part only 8.3mm.

I see what you did there at the end. You took your lack of common sense and actual knowledge of the devices and tried to spin it around on me. Touche.
 
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