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I have only confronted those who are clearly here to spread disinformation.

But i have tried to avoid breaking the rules.

U seem to be pretty sure of things u have no way of knowing ;)

And you have ways of knowing who's here to spread "disinformation?" Do you even know me or anyone that you falsely accuse? For instance, do you know that I've been purchasing Apple product for close to 15 years? That my household currently owns 2 iMac, 1 Macbook, 1 iPad Air and 3 iPhones? That I also own Apple stock?

Just how much insight and credibility could you have if you, of all people, are telling me that I'm coming here to intentionally spread "disinformation" to disparage Apple.

I'll tell you the difference between you and me. I'm not afraid to say that Apple makes mistakes or messes up. I'm not an Apple sheep, fanboy or lemming. That kind of behavior makes me cringe, to be honest. But, you enjoy whatever you're doing; don't let me stop you. Just keep your thoughts about me out of it.
 
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I don't understand why everyone is celebrating. Out of all of the phones they tested, the iPhone 6/Plus are noticeably weaker than all of them apart from the HTC ONE. How is that a victory for Apple?

1) Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 150 lbs
2) LG G3 - 130 lbs
3) iPhone 5 - 130 lbs
4) iPhone 6 Plus - 90 lbs
5) iPhone 6 - 70 lbs

6) HTC ONE (M8) - 70lbs

Exactly, it's bad news because it's showing the iPhone 6 with a larger area which allows for more stress points (in pocket) than an iPhone 5 would, and yet it's considerably weaker.
 
You took one guy's HYPOTHESIS, and assume it to be absolute truth. A poorly explained hypothesis at that, especially concerning his A & B shapes.

While I can understand what he is trying to say, I'd also like to point out that that design of internal reinforcements, interrupted by breaks, continues all the way down the side of the phone. And if I had to guess, it also lines the opposite side of the phone. Please also note that the battery flanks that entire length.

While it is POSSIBLE that his explanation is the cause, it is certainly far from the truth.

I am not saying the phone can't bend, or that the reinforcements aren't the cause. But if they are, there are more breaks than just the one below the volume buttons.

I just can't imagine those forces being generated on your phone, at that precise spot, by your jeans. Unless you were wearing EXTREMELY tight jeans, I just don't see it happening in normal use. Can it happen? Possibly. But not in normal use.

I'm willing to bet that the increase in reports are coming from people now trying to purposely bend the phone after watching these videos.

Anyone remember the iphone 5/5s bending claims? A few people had the same problem. It was actually in the SAME PLACE (just below the volume buttons). Doesn't mean it was widespread or a design defect. I used my iPhone 5 normally for 2 years, and never had a bending problem, just like the MILLIONS of other users.

Anyone have a teardown of the 5/5S to compare?
You also remember that the iPhone 5 is much "stronger" (deformation at 130 pounds) as the iPhone 6 (70 pounds) and 6 Plus (90 pounds)?
And this "poorly explained hypothesis" "far from the truth" is at least much more well explained and it might actually lead to something in contrast to these "this will never bend in my pocket, because I say so" arguments.
And what is normal use? Everything except if the phone bends? So it's the user by default?
We don't have to speak about tight jeans and the 6 Plus, but how do you know there isn't the possibility of bending even in a "normal" size jeans under certain circumstances?
I don't say this is a mass phenomena but to say its not possible under any circumstances as many here do is a bit ridiculous.
 
And english is letting you down.

Its obnoxious you can't stay on topic with our discussion but I will persevere!! Lol

You criticized someone for exaggerating bending force lbs. Then you refer to the Note 3 as "beast of a phone thick". That is an obvious exaggeration because the Note 3 has never had a stigma for being overly thick by any reviewer or owner. That is what is referred to as hypocrisy and is why I called you out on it. Follow?

Is the iPhone thinner? Yes, of course it is. However you bringing that up is changing the topic be are discussing.

I know its tough for you since you are battling everyone else in this thread and English is likely not your first language but try to keep up.

Do u know how many people out of the 7 billion on earth have english as their first language?
 
We've got another live one folks...

I've got both phones in my hand as of writing this. You being an owner I cannot understand how you've continued to contribute your trite to this thread when direct experience with the device would tell you otherwise, that for everyday use these are durable devices.

Instead of applying your direct experience you've chosen to build on the words of others. You've clearly got it backwards.

Somehow what you written makes very little sense.

The only caution for the 5.5 is to place it in a much bigger front pocket. And if you choose to place it in the back pocket and be seated, then that person is just an idiot.
 
We don't have to speak about tight jeans and the 6 Plus, but how do you know there isn't the possibility of bending even in a "normal" size jeans under certain circumstances?
I don't say this is a mass phenomena but to say its not possible under any circumstances as many here do is a bit ridiculous.

Do you realise how much 90lbs force is? I can't even lift 90lbs using both my arms and you think you may apply that kind of force to your phone in your pocket?
 
Yes, but how is that an issue? Phones are made to be used as phones and not as sofas.

It's more fragile than an older iPhone. That is an issue. Just because it's not meant to fall or have pressure applied to it, doesn't mean that these things will not happen.

And I don't know about you, but if my newer phone was more fragile than my older one, I'd probably consider either returning to my old one, or looking for a different phone.
 
Do you realise how much 90lbs force is? I can't even lift 90lbs using both my arms and you think you may apply that kind of force to your phone in your pocket?
See here http://imgur.com/a/FBegH
It seems there is a "weak spot" behind the volume buttons. The metal reinforcement behind the volume buttons is too short, that's why it always bends there and it explains why the lab tests of Apple and consumer reports (evenly distributed force) and the "hand beding tests" (force concentrated at one point/side) are so different.
If the reinforcement would be longer, it would also be harder to deform it as shown.
 
It's more fragile than an older iPhone. That is an issue. Just because it's not meant to fall or have pressure applied to it, doesn't mean that these things will not happen.

You honestly think your current phone is not more fragile than the one you had 15 years ago? Hell I remember my first cellphones, you could throw them from one end of the room to the other and nothing would happen.

And yet, we ARE using these fragile smartphones for 7 years now, and we adjusted the way we treat them since they are FRAGILE!!!!

Who could imagine a human could learn how to treat a new gadget so it doesn't get damaged?
 
Interesting how Consumer Reports makes reference to the youtube guy as one of the originators of the controversy, and yet CR conveniently omits the Moto X in their testing, the one phone 'Unbox Therapy' finds unbendable.

While it may be arguable that Moto X is not mainstream, neither is Note, nor HTC's phones, and yet it seems to me a Moto X reference would be very valuable to have, to know the max range of durability possible.

Who cares. We already have a point of reference with the Note 3 regarding a stronger phone on the continuum.

Again, the point of the test is to determine whether or not the iphone 6 bends. Not to determine if the Moto X doesn't.

Even if I give him the benefit of the doubt, and concede that the Moto X is unbendable, who cares? That's good for people that want the Moto X and who care about a phone that can't be bent.

I find it weirder that he chose the Moto X and not the S5 or Note 3 for HIS test.
 
You also remember that the iPhone 5 is much "stronger" (deformation at 130 pounds) as the iPhone 6 (70 pounds) and 6 Plus (90 pounds)?
And that this "poorly explained hypothesis" is "far from the truth" is your interpretation. At least it's much more well explained and it might actually lead to something in contrast to these "this will never bend in my pocket, because I say so" arguments.
And what is normal use? Everything except if the phone bends? So it's the user by default?
We don't have to speak about tight jeans and the 6 Plus, but how do you know there isn't the possibility of bending even in a "normal" size jeans under certain circumstances?
I don't say this is a mass phenomena but to say its not possible under any circumstances as many here do is a bit ridiculous.
Every phone will bend or right out break given enough force!
The idea is is it strong enough for a sane individual?
Yes it is ! U don't believe apple ? one of the best product manufactures in the world and their exhaustive testing ...? Ok...Do u believe CS??
Or u believe the blood thirsty undignified competition With a track record of undignified approach to competition ?
 
You honestly think your current phone is not more fragile than the one you had 15 years ago? Hell I remember my first cellphones, you could throw them from one end of the room to the other and nothing would happen.

And yet, we ARE using these fragile smartphones for 7 years now, and we adjusted the way we treat them since they are FRAGILE!!!!

Who could imagine a human could learn how to treat a new gadget so it doesn't get damaged?

Where did I ever mention phones from fifteen years ago? I was talking about an iPhone 5 to iPhone 6 type of upgrade.
 
Do you realise how much 90lbs force is? I can't even lift 90lbs using both my arms and you think you may apply that kind of force to your phone in your pocket?

It's very possible that he can, by applying uneven force to certain weak points - supposedly by the volume button as the video and Cult of Mac have proven. Consumer's test applied even force and did not mimic somebody sitting with his iPhone in his front or rear pocket. The ease that backwards cap boy bent the iPhone is telling and better mimics the random nature of somebody sitting (and freakin scary) and possibly bending it right at that sweet spot.

I really don't know why people are celebrating Consumer's findings, other than perhaps they were so concerned about their own phones bending that it came as a relief....hearing anything positive makes people feel good. Or, of course, there are the fanboys who believe Apple can do no wrong and will defend them till death.
 
Every phone will bend or right out break given enough force!
The idea is is it strong enough for a sane individual?
Yes it is ! U don't believe apple ? one of the best product manufactures in the world and their exhaustive testing ...? Ok...Do u believe CS??
Or u believe the blood thirsty undignified competition With a track record of undignified approach to competition ?
No, I belive this leads to where the "problem" might be. http://imgur.com/a/FBegH
It seems there is a "weak spot" behind the volume buttons. The metal reinforcement behind the volume buttons is too short, that's why it always bends there and it explains why the lab tests of Apple and consumer reports (evenly distributed force) and the "hand beding tests" (force concentrated at one point/side) are so different.
If the reinforcement would be longer, it would also be harder to deform it as shown.
 
Who cares. We already have a point of reference with the Note 3 regarding a stronger phone on the continuum.

Again, the point of the test is to determine whether or not the iphone 6 bends. Not to determine if the Moto X doesn't.

Even if I give him the benefit of the doubt, and concede that the Moto X is unbendable, who cares? That's good for people that want the Moto X and who care about a phone that can't be bent.

I find it weirder that he chose the Moto X and not the S5 or Note 3 for HIS test.
Note 3 stopped functioning as soon as it deformed.. Became useless.
Iphone6 and others remained functional.
 
Where did I ever mention phones from fifteen years ago? I was talking about an iPhone 5 to iPhone 6 type of upgrade.

And I was pointing out the inconsistency in your reasoning. You say that it's bad that a newer phone is more fragile than the older one.

These devices got more and more fragile over the years and nobody complained, until now.
 
So the results state the iPhone 6 requires nearly half as much force to bend as the iPhone 5 (which is also mostly aluminum). How is this in any way a positive result?
 
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