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It's very possible that he can, by applying uneven force to certain weak points - supposedly by the volume button as the video and Cult of Mac have proven. Consumer's test applied even force and did not mimic somebody sitting with his iPhone in his front or rear pocket. The ease that backwards cap boy bent the iPhone is telling and better mimics the random nature of somebody sitting and bending it at the sweet spot.

And we will see exactly how possible it is in the upcoming weeks by the number of returned phones due to bending. Of course it's possible, I just don't think it's likely to happen.
 
And I was pointing out the inconsistency in your reasoning. You say that it's bad that a newer phone is more fragile than the older one.

These devices got more and more fragile over the years and nobody complained, until now.

But that came with smaller form factors and much smarter devices - people could accept the fact that their phones were more fragile as a result.

In this case, though, you are basically getting the same phone with a slightly larger screen and thinner body.
 
Who cares. We already have a point of reference with the Note 3 regarding a stronger phone on the continuum.

Again, the point of the test is to determine whether or not the iphone 6 bends. Not to determine if the Moto X doesn't.

Even if I give him the benefit of the doubt, and concede that the Moto X is unbendable, who cares? That's good for people that want the Moto X and who care about a phone that can't be bent.

I find it weirder that he chose the Moto X and not the S5 or Note 3 for HIS test.

We care, because we have a lot of people saying that a larger phone will inevitably be weaker and more prone to bending and that we should accept that reality and stop wearing in pockets. You see how ridiculous that is?

And yet if we have proof that a phone like the Moto X is unbendable, it means that higher (or much higher) durability is achievable even with larger phones. And Apple has work to do.
 
bendHATE

Bendgate, more like bendHATE. A completely unscientific video from YouTube is spreading like wildfire. People, stop listening to Apple haters, as if Apple wouldn't test their phones. :apple:
 
But that came with smaller form factors and much smarter devices - people could accept the fact that their phones were more fragile as a result.

In this case, though, you are basically getting the same phone with a slightly larger screen and thinner body.

Regardless, people "learned" that if they treated these new phones like they treated their old ones, they would break very easily. So they adjusted their behaviour.

If you realise that you can apply that kind of force to your new shiny phone and bend it, adjust your behaviour. I'm not saying stop carrying it in your pocket, but maybe don't sit on it. It's not the end of the world.

PS: I have never sit on my 4S even though it's much more sturdier than 6 because I'm a sane individual.
 
It's more fragile than an older iPhone. That is an issue. Just because it's not meant to fall or have pressure applied to it, doesn't mean that these things will not happen.

And I don't know about you, but if my newer phone was more fragile than my older one, I'd probably consider either returning to my old one, or looking for a different phone.

Point is, if you use the phone as a phone ( and not as a cargo or something ) you won't have a problem. Time will tell! I want my phone to be strong enough for for a normal usage. I don't need undestructable phone because am not using it as a shield or a bunker.
 
Through all of this has anyone seen video of a phone bending in a pocket?

Or has anyone seen video of someone applying 90lbs of force to a phone in a pocket?

Oh that's what I thought.
 
I don't understand why everyone is celebrating. Out of all of the phones they tested, the iPhone 6/Plus are noticeably weaker than all of them apart from the HTC ONE. How is that a victory for Apple?

1) Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 150 lbs
2) LG G3 - 130 lbs
3) iPhone 5 - 130 lbs
4) iPhone 6 Plus - 90 lbs
5) iPhone 6 - 70 lbs

6) HTC ONE (M8) - 70lbs

A phone needs to be strong enough for its intended use!
Otherwise why not make a phone out of steel ?

Iphone is the thinest lightest phone.. Naturally it is not going to be as strong as a phone which is thicker and heavier..
But it is strong enough for sane users. And CS proved that today !
The victory of apple is that it proved the competition is playing a dirty game of disinformation because they find the appeal of apple product a huge threat !
 
The ease that backwards cap boy bent the iPhone is telling and better mimics the random nature of somebody sitting (and freakin scary) and possibly bending it right at that sweet spot.

Some people have strong hands (think Mongo in Blazing Saddles), the test that Consumer Report did is more accurate since we know exactly how much force was applied, it was also applied in the same way in all tests.
 
Regardless, people "learned" that if they treated these new phones like they treated their old ones, they would break very easily. So they adjusted their behaviour.

If you realise that you can apply that kind of force to your new shiny phone and bend it, adjust your behaviour. I'm not saying stop carrying it in your pocket, but maybe don't sit on it. It's not the end of the world.

PS: I have never sit on my 4S even though it's much more sturdier than 6 because I'm a sane individual.


But there's also the competition - other companies' phones are stronger.
 
Just because you never put an iPod touch in your pocket doesn't mean that nobody else does.

For iPads this is also a problem - obviously not in pockets, but in backpacks and bags.

Fair enough, I misread your post, I'd use iPod in pocket actually and the iPad in backpack makes sense too. But I still think it's fair for the iPhone to get the spotlight because it's a far more mainstream and usage is generally much higher than iPods/iPad.
 
I don't understand why everyone is celebrating. Out of all of the phones they tested, the iPhone 6/Plus are noticeably weaker than all of them apart from the HTC ONE. How is that a victory for Apple?

1) Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 150 lbs 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3 mm
2) LG G3 - 130 lbs 164.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm
3) iPhone 5 - 130 lbs 123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm
4) iPhone 6 Plus - 90 lbs 158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm
5) iPhone 6 - 70 lbs
138.1 x 67.0 x 6.9 mm
6) HTC ONE (M8) - 70lbs 146.36 x 70.6 x 9.35 mm

You forgot the size, here I searched it for your reference!
 
And we will see exactly how possible it is in the upcoming weeks by the number of returned phones due to bending. Of course it's possible, I just don't think it's likely to happen.

Precisely. That will be the true test. It concerns me that it seems to bend so easily, but if there are very few complaints by those who put them in their front pocket (like 99.9% of us do) then it's a non-issue. I'm leaning the other way than you....that there will be more than "just a few."

Thanks for being reasonable while having a differing opinion. Seems a rarity in Apple-related forums.

Waiting on my iPhone 6 64gb. I'm actually hoping for the best.
 
We care, because we have a lot of people saying that a larger phone will inevitably be weaker and more prone to bending and that we should accept that reality and stop wearing in pockets. You see how ridiculous that is?

And yet if we have proof that a phone like the Moto X is unbendable, it means that higher (or much higher) durability is achievable even with larger phones. And Apple has work to do.

lol. Again, there is already proof that some phones require more force to be bent.

EVERYONE knows that you can always make a stronger phone. I could reinforce any phone with carbon fiber/kevlar, make the walls thicker (like the Moto X), etc.

It doesn't mean anything.

Before bendgate, no one talked about wanting a stronger phone. We wanted larger phones, faster phones, thinner phones, more aesthetically pleasing phones. Not one want was "can't bend if I put my thumbs behind the volume buttons while cupping the sides in my hands like this, and exerting unreasonable amounts of pressure right here."

If you want a durable phone, buy this:

Nokia3310.jpg


I'll keep my 6+, thanks. I'm willing to bet for the 2 years I plan on using it, it will be fine in terms of bending.
 
Why can't the tests be in the pocket, or give some kind of perspective here, tell us how much force the phone may experience in the pocket. Using your hands or a machine to bend a phone is stupid, because of course it will bend. Being in a pocket it isn't going to encounter anywhere near the amount of force. The only reason the Note 3 doesn't stay bent is because of the elastic quality of plastic.
 
Then perhaps Apple shouldn't have made it so thin?

Why? I personally love it. I'm not someone who suck all the bs Internet throws. I have my iPhone 6 and love the thinnes. i know how to use a device that cost me £600. it stays in my pockets but if I was let's say over 100kg I wouldn't put my phone on my **** and sit on it!! There is something called common sense! Look after your expensive device, it's not meant to be undestructable.
 
Bendgate Status: Closed

Exactly...the Consumer Report confirms that the iphone 6/6s does bend easier...at what point did #bendgate claim that a bent iphone doesn't work? It states that an iphone 6 is more likely to bend, which it is.
 
Through all of this has anyone seen video of a phone bending in a pocket?

Or has anyone seen video of someone applying 90lbs of force to a phone in a pocket?

Oh that's what I thought.
The question should be, if you really need as much as 90lbs of force (and not maybe less?) applied near the volume buttons and (not evenly distributed as in the lab tests of Apple an CS) to bend the phone slightly in this area.
 
Some people have strong hands (think Mongo in Blazing Saddles), the test that Consumer Report did is more accurate since we know exactly how much force was applied, it was also applied in the same way in all tests.

I'm not an engineer, but in Consumer's testing, the force was applied evenly. Those who have torn the iPhone 6 apart, seem to think the weak spot is by the volume buttons. If that's the case, I believe his bare hands (and pockets) would be a truer test. Seems his Mongo hands (lol) weren't strong enough to bend the other phones he attempted to bend. The 6 plus just seemed to bend so easily and quick....it's almost frightening. Obviously, he knew its weak spot, something Apple either overlooked or didn't consider an issue.
 
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