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Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4

Consumer Reports Ratings

After reading many of posts, I can conclude that we the Consumers have banned ConsumersReport by a big proportion.
ConsumerReports magazine and staff are not a Reference because the live in the PC world. The will never go out of their square mind and think at least like one Atom of Steve Jobs. They are people who receive money on the side to talk or not about products. So, if they cannot recommend the iPhone 4, because whatever reason, I do not recommend ConsumerReports, because it is not a reliable source.

For all who have an iPhone 4 (3 million) so far, don´t buy ConsumerReport magazine and let´s see who is the one who is finally affected.
 
shallowman said:
This is an excellent point. Many items that we use every day work flawlessly so long as we don't put our hands/fingers in a place that interferes with their operation.
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This is true but with the majority of items you would have to go out of the way to interfere with their operation.

With iPhone 4 the way I have held every phone I've ever had interferes with the signal. My last 2 fingers always wrap around the the base of the phone. But just so happens on iPhone 4 the dead spot it is exactly where I place my fingers.

They should investigate to see if its in any way possible to move that dead spot to the band at the top of the phone. Then nobody would have a problem.
 
marksman said:
I can not recommend Consumer Reports due to their flawed and inadequate testing methodologies when it comes to iPhone 4.
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Methodology does not mean what you think it does. Apple just held a press conference stating they got it wrong, ease up on kissing their ass and apologising 24/7, Steve has is covered with some free cases. For apple to come out and admit something like this.... Yes it's a real problem.
 
shallowman said:
This is an excellent point. Many items that we use every day work flawlessly so long as we don't put our hands/fingers in a place that interferes with their operation.
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True, but the designers of your remote control have placed the IR transmitter at the top of the device, where you wouldn't hold it. The problem with the iPhone 4 is the sensitive area is positioned right in the place where a lot of people instinctively hold their phones.
 
Spot/Scab

kolebee said:
Hmm… Mentioning small claims court is probably an easy resolution here.



My boyfriend and I got iPhone 4s on launch (and also my brother), and none of us have had any problems with them. I also got another one for work about a week ago. I don't have any sort of case on either of mine, and I haven't had even a single dropped call yet.

The only thing I'm worried about is being able to get a couple of actual bumpers (free or otherwise and preferably not in black) before I go on holiday soon. I've gotten paranoid about dropping it and the glass shattering…they're pretty slippery compared to the previous generations. I have a feeling the bumpers are going to be next to impossible to get now. :rolleyes:
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Well we're in the same camp on this. I've got just over half a dozen friends who also have not experienced any issues. Even with a single or even two bars there have been no dropped calls.
This is pre getting a cover.

I think the issue with covering the antenna location is like picking a scab or a spot, it's there and people can't help but pick it knowing it won't do anything to truly make it any better. If the doctor tells you don't lean hard on an injured leg hopefully you wouldn't do it. Here despite being told to reposition your hand we have the opposite. Our ability to adapt when things are difficult is appalling.

I'm in London and have not heard from anyone in Europe who has experienced dropped calls despite reaching out on this and another forum.
 
rish said:
Our ability to adapt when things are difficult is appalling.
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Equally appalling is our ability to ignore, look the other way and let someone else handle it when something is wrong.

Which often leads to the few that do, are the most extreme yet most of us gladly enjoy any benefits their actions might give us.

Some things are better today, some are worse.
 
rish said:
Well we're in the same camp on this. I've got just over half a dozen friends who also have experienced no issues. We're in London and I the network transmission frequency is a factor. However even with a couple or a single bar there have been no dropped calls. This is pre getting a cover.

I think the issue with covering the antenna location is like picking a scab or a spot, it's there and people can't help but pick it knowing it won't do anything to truly make it any better.

This is a great phone and it's fab. I think the other issue we have here is we have in today's global society the whiners. If the doctor tells you don't lean hard on an injured leg hopefully you wouldn't do it. Here despite being told to reposition your hand we have the opposite. Our ability to adapt when things are difficult is appalling.

I've still to hear from anyone in Europe who has experienced dropped calls despite reaching out on this and another forum.
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Why should anyone have to reposition their hand? If you are right handed and hold the phone like a normal person your natural finger position will cover the dead spot on the phone. Only way to avoid doing so is hold the phone higher up which make using it uncomfortable and insecure in your hand.

You should post a picture of how you hold your iPhone when browsing the internet and during calls. I'm pretty sure you'll look like a retard.
 
WiiDSmoker said:
I love how all the Apple fanboys are coming out and saying that Consumer Reports sucks, etc., when before this Consumer Reports was used to recommend the iPhone
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I love it how all these people use silly labels like fanboy or fanboi to create a group of people that are all bad while distancing themselves from that group and claiming moral superiority. Actually, I *hate* when people are so stupid and do offensive things like that.

Bit of a silly thing this Consumer Reports problem - just highlights their own ineptitude, when one day they were recommending it, and the next they weren't. Makes one wonder how accurate their other recommendations are. One day a washing machine is great, the next, ooops, it just tore some shirts, oh well the article has gone to print!
 
I will not read through 700 comments, but perhaps someone can answer. Has Apple announced what cases they might be offering in addition to the Bumper?
 
What just frustrates me to no end is the fact Apple did NOT admit to the antenna problem on the "bare" iPhone 4 and also has yet to address the proximity sensor issue.

If Apple doesn't fix these problems soon with an updated production iPhone 4 the Federal Trade Commission may take an interest, and I don't think Steve Jobs wants to deal with the FTC possibly for several years.
 
YesILoveTech said:
Apple is the best tech company ever. You should be ashamed to have anything negative to say about Apple. Steve Jobs and crew have basically invented the personal computer. What have you done in your life, he knows better than you, just buy Apple products, enjoy and shut up.
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What have You done in your life?
According to you, people are only worth or good enough for your standards if they work for Apple or if they just buy Apple products, enjoy and shut up? You must very a very sad person with a lot of problems. You sound like a white supremacist who works in a farm cleaning sh** all day.
Believe it or not. There are actually people who love what they do even if it is not making computers at Apple. There are actually people intellectually free enough to decide whether to buy Apple or not.
 
This whole thing is so blown out of proportion by the media and the anti-Apple trolls it's amazing.

Yes the antenna design is not perfect.... but affects little to nothing under normal use.

It's most sad to see that Apple has stepped up to do something fair and people are still bashing on them.... you don't hear this sort of outcry for the crap other companies have put out over the past couple of years trying to catch up to Apple. OS's that are junk. Functionality that is half baked. What did they do to fix their problems? Nothing... just stop that product and produce more junk.

I guess when you're on top, everyone wants knock you off so they can beat up the next guy on top.

As for Consumer Reports... shame on them... they recommend that Apple should provide the bumper - they do - and then still refuse to give their top rated phone a recommendation? Sounds like they are after media attention themselves.
 
Popeye206 said:
This whole thing is so blown out of proportion by the media and the anti-Apple trolls it's amazing.
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Yes, absolutely. Spending several hundred dollars on a phone that can't make calls without dropping the signal, and not being satisfied is trolling. Of course it is.

Yes the antenna design is not perfect.... but affects little to nothing under normal use.
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Except err... making phone calls and using data.

you don't hear this sort of outcry for the crap other companies have put out over the past couple of years trying to catch up to Apple.
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Err.. are you an idiot or just willfully ignorant? Have you seen the bashing that takes place amongst the Apple fanboy community for the Zune, for Windows Mobile, for Google/Android etc...

OS's that are junk. Functionality that is half baked.
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Three major releases of the OS to get cut and paste, that every other phone has had for about a decade? Four major releases and still no wireless sync, which just about every other smartphone can do? That's called half-baked functionality dude.

What did they do to fix their problems? Nothing... just stop that product and produce more junk.
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You're just making stuff up now. You don't even know what you're talking about.

I guess when you're on top, everyone wants knock you off so they can beat up the next guy on top.
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The only true thing you've said. It's called business.

As for Consumer Reports... shame on them...
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Yes, shame on them. Shame on them for being a consumer watchdog that doesn't recommend a flawed product. No other smartphone I've ever seen has suffered this problem to the degree that the iPhone 4 does, regardless of what Jesus Jobs claims. It didn't happen with the 3G, the 3GS or the original iPhone and you didn't need a case to use them. If Consumer Reports recommended a Microsoft product that had flaws and someone posted the information here you'd be all over them.

The fanboyism on this forum has been pretty comical for a long time now, but some of you these days are starting to sound like you're mentally ill.
 
macridah said:
it should be not recommended to people that hold the phone with their left hands and cannot afford tape to resolve the issue.

To the 6% of the lefties out there, buy the phone before sept 30th.

the antennagate issue doesn't affect me and i'm happy with the phone, and that's what matters.
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As a lefty, I hold my phone in my RIGHT hand. That way I can write things down while on the phone. Or use my left hand to interact with the screen. I would imagine that the majority of right-handed people hold the phone in their left hand for the same reasons.
 
As an owner of something other than the iPhone 4:

I love Apple and SJ. I think it probably ran all over him to have to give that press conference yesterday and honestly I'm not sure I blame him. However, as he admitted, Apple might have caused this themselves by making it LOOK worse than it actually was. If that's the case, then it's hard after the fact to change everyone's perception.

I don't think the media is trying to bring down Apple....one stupid cell phone is not going to ruin a company. If Toyota's cars killed a few people, and they are still going strong, then I think Apple is going to be JUST fine.
 
dpinchot said:
Please return your iPhone 4 if you do not like it. There is no basic human right to own an iPhone. You, as a consumer can make a choice as to what phone you want to buy. Stop crying and buy a blackberry if you what one. Myself, and 99.95% of iPhone 4 owners will enjoy our new phones. It is by far, the best phone that I have ever had. Period.
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Spoken like a good Steve Jobs robot fan.
 
The fanboyism on this forum has been pretty comical for a long time now, but some of you these days are starting to sound like you're mentally ill

Oh boy! The maggots continue to crawl out the woodwork...
So, on a forum dedicated to Apple, it amazes you to find people that like their products!!
Gosh how incredible! I'm guessing, though I have no desire to check, that there are forums dedicated to Drone products where 10's of annoying little babies like yourself can find lots of things to talk about until mummy says bedtime....
 
Didn't Steve Jobs say something about Eminem producing a sticker that would fit the left hand corner of the antenna and that would resolve the issue. Perhaps the stickers will be ready by Sept 30th.

My own feeling is that all iP4s manufactured after Sept 30th will have some sort of invisible coating (lacquer?) to resolve the issue of dropped calls. Also, AT&T will have a lot more masts erected to improve cell reception, and with yet another iOS update before then, all the problems will disappear, and people will start their love-affair with their iPhone4.

And someone, please sue CR...
 
Snowshiro said:
Three major releases of the OS to get cut and paste, that every other phone has had for about a decade? Four major releases and still no wireless sync, which just about every other smartphone can do? That's called half-baked functionality dude.
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Are you ignorant or just pretending to be one?

The iPhone has cut/paste NOW. And it IS the best implementation of cut/paste on any mobile device out there.

You don't have the feature, you whine. You have the feature, you whine.

Please continue.
 
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