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Actually they don't, that apple video is about as believable as your average ufo footage.



Pure maniacal devotion to apple is what is the only possible explanation as to why people would be grateful about a defective device, A device that Jobs has admitted is defective.

The haterade is strong with this one.
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A lot of hating by fanboys, but I love CR. I've subscribed for years. They are completely objective and DEAD-ON with their reviews. If the don't recommend something, it's for good reason.
 
Actually they don't, that apple video is about as believable as your average ufo footage.
I agree with this. It's amazing how quickly people will swallow such nonsense from apple. That antenna page is one of the most ridiculously cynical things I've seen. They pimp their quality of their $100 million testing facility only to not use it to compare phones in any of their vids. And they superficially compare on the basis of a grip (when CR and others have shown a single finger is sufficient with the ip4) and the number of bars on the display. Talk about non-scientific whitewash.
 
A lot of hating by fanboys, but I love CR. I've subscribed for years. They are completely objective and DEAD-ON with their reviews. If the don't recommend something, it's for good reason.

Like when they recommend the 2007 Camry with no data on it and then get egg on their face when it had transmission issues?

Or just because it is Toyota, they give them the benefit of the doubt they would fix the 2005 Avalon issues?
 
Actually they don't, that apple video is about as believable as your average ufo footage.
Could say the same about footage showing iPhone4 losing calls and bars. Why is their footage unbelievable but footage of the iPhone4 losing bars is believable? :confused:

Or are you trying to say that those making iPhone4 footage couldn't have an agenda? Posts I've seen from Apple haters would imply the opposite.
 
Actually they don't, that apple video is about as believable as your average ufo footage.



Pure maniacal devotion to apple is what is the only possible explanation as to why people would be grateful about a defective device, A device that Jobs has admitted is defective.

Trust is a word you should add to your vocabulary.

Experience would teach you where to put trust.

My experience with Apple says they deserve trust.
 
Could say the same about footage showing iPhone4 losing calls and bars. Why is their footage unbelievable but footage of the iPhone4 losing bars is believable? :confused:

Do those people making the videos have billions of dollars on the line like apple does?

Or are you trying to say that those making iPhone4 footage couldn't have an agenda? Posts I've seen from Apple haters would imply the opposite.

Of course they have an agenda, they want the iphone to work properly, their agenda is being able to hold a phone like a normal person and make a phone call.
 
Could say the same about footage showing iPhone4 losing calls and bars. Why is their footage unbelievable but footage of the iPhone4 losing bars is believable? :confused:

Or are you trying to say that those making iPhone4 footage couldn't have an agenda? Posts I've seen from Apple haters would imply the opposite.

Could be he also believes we didn't actually land on the moon.
 
Do those people making the videos have billions of dollars on the line like apple does?



Of course they have an agenda, they want the iphone to work properly, their agenda is being able to hold a phone like a normal person and make a phone call.

If they work for the competition it's quite possible that they have billions on the line. Could be that there was a second video shooter behind the grassy knoll :)
 
For only 0.55% of the users though?

This is who officially complained to Apple about it. Most of the rest of those who have the issue (that is 100% of iPhone 4 owners) still think that the problem is AT&T. :D
 
This is who officially complained to Apple about it. Most of the rest of those who have the issue (that is 100% of iPhone 4 owners) still think that the problem is AT&T. :D

Wow, did I miss the poll where 3 million people asked you to speak on their behalf?
 
Do those people making the videos have billions of dollars on the line like apple does?



Of course they have an agenda, they want the iphone to work properly, their agenda is being able to hold a phone like a normal person and make a phone call.

Can the people making those videos on youtube go to prison for making materially false statements like the officers of a publicly traded company in the US can? Who has more motivation to be honest?
 
This is who officially complained to Apple about it. Most of the rest of those who have the issue (that is 100% of iPhone 4 owners) still think that the problem is AT&T. :D

But I own an iPhone 4, and I've no problem, so it can't possibly be 100%.
 
This is who officially complained to Apple about it. Most of the rest of those who have the issue (that is 100% of iPhone 4 owners) still think that the problem is AT&T. :D

AT&T has nothing to do with it or do you want to tell the other countries this too? Whether the number is higher than 0.55% or not, it’s not much higher than that, unless you are seeing large groups of people returning their phones and the media is just missing all this. FYI, 3GS return rate at the same time last year was 6%; it’s only 1.7% for the 4. Other than the media and certain forum members making lots of noise, the reality does not support the illusion.

For those that have the problem, I feel your pain, but you’ve heard from Apple. You either live with it or return it. In your shoes, I’d return it and get the 3GS or leave Apple altogether.
 
But I own an iPhone 4, and I've no problem, so it can't possibly be 100%.

Oh well then you should not have elected lilo to speak for you. Oh wait, maybe you didn't and he was just lying. Thought did not occur to me before, thanks for clearing it up for me.
 
Good for Consumer Reports. The bumper is nothing but a band-aid. I don't/didn't need a bumper or a case for my 3GS, 3G, 2G. Why for the iPhone 4?

You don't need a case for the iPhone 4, either. As revealed at the event, Steve and the other 2 Apple execs don't use cases. Just don't hold it wrong. Even if you do hold it wrong, you'll be fine if AT&T's signal is strong enough where you are.
 
Did you not listen???

Hey Consumer Reports, Steve Jobs said they would take care of all customers.

A. They would give free cases or refund APPLE purchased cases a refund.

B. If the consumer was absolutely not satisfied then they could return phone for refund.

Sounds pretty solid to me.

What else do you want. Blood from Steve Jobs?
I was impressed with the response from Apple concerning this situation.

Did you not pay attention to the hard data they had. I too have felt this whole issue was way over blown by the media and Consumer Reports seems to have fallen for all of it as well.

I want Consumer Reports to show their reports on the phones that Steve Jobs brought up in his presentation and see what kind of rating they gave those phones? If they too have the same antenna issues then those reports should not show them recommending these phones as well based on those issues.

I think it was unfair of them to make a decision until they checked with Apple first to find out the facts. I hope they eat their words.

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P.S. Oh for those skeptics, I don't know how you hold your smartphone, but it is not at the very bottom of the phone. Maybe all of you have a problem knowing how to hold your phones. And for all those Apple haters, I suppose you believe that man never walked on the moon and Aliens built the pyramids. Get a life man!
 
Do those people making the videos have billions of dollars on the line like apple does?
Competitors' employees, associates and share holders, for a start.

Never mind their die-hard fans, supporters, Gizmodo, and Apple haters, in general.

Of course they have an agenda, they want the iphone to work properly, their agenda is being able to hold a phone like a normal person and make a phone call.

For over 99% of iPhone 4 users, this agenda apparently has been fulfilled.
 
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P.S. Oh for those skeptics, I don't know how you hold your smartphone, but it is not at the very bottom of the phone. Maybe all of you have a problem knowing how to hold your phones. And for all those Apple haters, I suppose you believe that man never walked on the moon and Aliens built the pyramids. Get a life man!

Come on man... everyone knows that man never walked on the moon and of course aliens built the pyramids! I thought this was common knowledge :rolleyes:
 
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