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The end result of this is simply a few more telemarketing phone calls, and potentially some additional attempts at other login breaches. Nothing two-step authentication can't help with. Still sucks that facebook is so poor at handling their data, and clearly doesn't give a ***** either.
 
As a developer, I couldn't imagine any company having a database without a password so suspect this is not an Instagram database. Yes the information may have come from Instagram but not the database.

The bigger and more popular a company gets, the greater its responsibility to protect its users data that they have been entrusted with as part of an agreement.

Yours comment maybe common sense, however we have seen time-and-again that some large companies store sensitive data in unprotected excel sheets. Go figure these companies won’t learn and change until lawsuits are brought forth.
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I guess only about a thousand posts here at MacRumors can count as limited.

You have to look at the life time of the account friend. If I had 1K posts in a month or six, you may have had a point. However I have had my account for years, when averaged it is not much.

Please research your perceived burn before posting. ;):p
 
If you think this is what people use social media for, you're thinking of 2008, not now. But it's still about as bad as you say it is, only FB's groups are useful.

No friend, I am aware it is used to advertise and all the other terms that are used that still fall under its umbrella.

I find it hard to believe that your parents and grand parents are advertising some companies products. People use social media for many thing, I.E. announcements, vacay pictures, etc. I prefer IM as it is more personal and I know the person has me in their address book to take the time to message me or send me a pic, may it be individual or in a group message.

Facebook announcements seem very impersonal to me, hey social circle I got engaged, married, baby, etc. Most of the people following you are forgotten, unless that person is active in usage.

If someone is important to me, I remember who their are and take the time to message them directly, it’s more personal and meaningful to the parties involved. Facebook will never capture that meaningful feeling one gets when their receive a hand written, letter, a card, a phone call, etc. It is but a message board like those that are ignored on government offices, religious venues, etc. It’s purpose is for companies to reach out impersonally to their clients and customers and does not translate to a cherished one-on-one relationship.
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Wow, now I feel like not only are you just casually ignoring me, but it’s very intentional... XD

You been ghosted ;):p:D
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The company that brought us the Fappening because it allowed people brute force iCloud passwords for so long there were multiple open source hack programs available on github. Sure, tells us another.

Nobody claimed Apple was perfect, it’s better than the other evils. The breach you mentioned was due in part by poor password creation and management by those involved. To my knowledge it was a lesson learned that happened long time ago, yet instances of it occurring with other companies and not learning from the past is just pitiful in 2019.
 
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You have to look at the life time of the account friend. If I had 1K posts in a month or six, you may have had a point. However I have had my account for years, when averaged it is not much.

Please research your perceived burn before posting. ;):p
Why would you think I didn't look at the life time of your account? It is right there in the popup window, just a few characters before your posting count. Since we start to scan lines of text from the left, most people will see it before they get to the 'messages' count (as did I).

You tell me what average post count per day counts as limited and what counts as an addiction (I'll do the math for you: you have posted 0.2367 'messages'/day here, while I stand at 1.0458 posts/day).

But the real purpose of my original post was not necessarily to put judgement on a number but to point out the irony of complaining about the excessive use of social media by others on a (sort of) social media platform on which you have posted somewhat regularly over many years.
 
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Why would you think I didn't look at the life time of your account? It is right there in the popup window, just a few characters before your posting count. Since we start to scan lines of text from the left, most people will see it before they get to the 'messages' count (as did I).

You tell me what average post count per day counts as limited and what counts as an addiction (I'll do the math for you: you have posted 0.2367 'messages'/day here, while I stand at 1.0458 posts/day).

But the real purpose of my original post was not necessarily to put judgement on a number but to point out the irony of complaining about the excessive use of social media by others on a (sort of) social media platform on which you have posted somewhat regularly.

I believe you have answered your comment with egg on your face :p;):D

You should re-read my original post, there is no irony.
 
I believe you have answered your comment with egg on your face :p;):D

You should re-read my original post, there is no irony.
People create unintended irony all the time. This is what you achieved. Just because you were not aware of the irony of complaining about excessive social media use by posting on social media at the time of writing, doesn't mean it is isn't there.
 
No friend, I am aware it is used to advertise and all the other terms that are used that still fall under its umbrella.

I find it hard to believe that your parents and grand parents are advertising some companies products. People use social media for many thing, I.E. announcements, vacay pictures, etc. I prefer IM as it is more personal and I know the person has me in their address book to take the time to message me or send me a pic, may it be individual or in a group message.

Facebook announcements seem very impersonal to me, hey social circle I got engaged, married, baby, etc. Most of the people following you are forgotten, unless that person is active in usage.

If someone is important to me, I remember who their are and take the time to message them directly, it’s more personal and meaningful to the parties involved. Facebook will never capture that meaningful feeling one gets when their receive a hand written, letter, a card, a phone call, etc. It is but a message board like those that are ignored on government offices, religious venues, etc. It’s purpose is for companies to reach out impersonally to their clients and customers and does not translate to a cherished one-on-one relationship.
This doesn't sound accurate. For one, nobody posts on their FB wall except in very rare, serious cases. If they're posting anything publicly, it's on Instagram stories or posts. It's usually one or two a day, not overly detailed.

When I was in college (last year), I was on this stuff, but the vast majority of communication was person-to-person in iMessage/SMS or whatever messaging app, usually FB Messenger. There _was_ also Snapchat, again person-to-person. That's not just me, that was the norm.
 
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The bigger and more popular a company gets, the greater its responsibility to protect its users data that they have been entrusted with as part of an agreement.

Yours comment maybe common sense, however we have seen time-and-again that some large companies store sensitive data in unprotected excel sheets. Go figure these companies won’t learn and change until lawsuits are brought forth.

Keeping unprotected data in an excel spreadsheet is small scale.
Databases are large scale and as a developer, I can attest to no one in their right mind would even consider creating a database that doesn't have passwords. Its just something a developer would not do as in the bar is low on this one.

Not securing servers properly or having bad passwords are far more likely thing to happen than having databases without passwords.
 
Keeping unprotected data in an excel spreadsheet is small scale.
Databases are large scale and as a developer, I can attest to no one in their right mind would even consider creating a database that doesn't have passwords. Its just something a developer would not do as in the bar is low on this one.

Not securing servers properly or having bad passwords are far more likely thing to happen than having databases without passwords.

Single or multiple factors in the security chain can be broken or overlooked by an individual or company, so what is your argument?

The end state is that it happened, these companies should be fined for breach of trust on the grounds of privacy and protecting personal information stored improperly. Only then will these companies take it seriously when the bottom line takes a hit.
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This doesn't sound accurate. For one, nobody posts on their FB wall except in very rare, serious cases. If they're posting anything publicly, it's on Instagram stories or posts. It's usually one or two a day, not overly detailed.

When I was in college (last year), I was on this stuff, but the vast majority of communication was person-to-person in iMessage/SMS or whatever messaging app, usually FB Messenger. There _was_ also Snapchat, again person-to-person. That's not just me, that was the norm.

Your experience may be anecdotal and you will be amazed what a picture, video, etc can reveal about a person, it is analytics and it is big business with big money.

Where have you been the past 4+ years, this has been going on for a while well before the media and general public were made aware.

Obtaining the user to click on something is so yesteryear, just go to the source make a donation and the goldmine of information is ready for the taking.
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People create unintended irony all the time. This is what you achieved. Just because you were not aware of the irony of complaining about excessive social media use by posting on social media at the time of writing, doesn't mean it is isn't there.

I guess like Professor X, I can instil my opinion, observation and thoughts to people’s brains without an online medium to the point where we are presently.

Do you believe I am receiving financial compensation for my posts, am I encouraging you to purchase something I am promoting, please do explain :rolleyes:
 
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Do you believe I am receiving financial compensation for my posts, am I encouraging you to purchase something I am promoting, please do explain :rolleyes:
No, I don't believe that. But this is just another example of "My social media usage is still healthy (as I don't get money for it), but those doing more of it are addicts". It's normalising your behaviour/consumption but calling out those doing/consuming more than you. It's defining 'healthy' as what you are doing, it's only ever those that exceed what you do that represent a problem.
 
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Owned by Facebook...not surprised. I deleted my Instagram account within two weeks of starting it (After learning FB owns them and your data).

I am thinking I may give Twitter the boot too. Social Media isn’t worth any of this.

Don't blame you there... I have zero social media accounts but I do anonymously browse twitter every so often....
 
Single or multiple factors in the security chain can be broken or overlooked by an individual or company, so what is your argument?

The end state is that it happened, these companies should be fined for breach of trust on the grounds of privacy and protecting personal information stored improperly. Only then will these companies take it seriously when the bottom line takes a hit.

I wasn't really replying to your post initially and I guess chains of comment can happen like that if one does that.
 
No, I don't believe that. But this is just another example of "My social media usage is still healthy (as I don't get money for it), but those doing more of it are addicts". It's normalising your behaviour/consumption but calling out those doing/consuming more than you. It's defining 'healthy' as what you are doing, it's only ever those that exceed what you do that represent a problem.

Many mammals are social by nature, the issue is the over dependence on unhealthy forms that causes an addiction. I have heard some scary stories from people who have the need to document their daily life on social media and cannot live a normal life without withdrawal symptoms, sad really.

I only post from time-to-time on MR, weather you believe me or not does not hurt my feelings. I any case you tried to come across as cheeky and it did not work. Peace.
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I wasn't really replying to your post initially and I guess chains of comment can happen like that if one does that.

No harm done, the beauty of forums ;)
 
But as to your point, yes companies (members of the company) need to be held liable for security breaches.

The sad part is that these social network companies are used as an extension of the government as majority of the citizens use them and the corporations depend on them, the political parties and elected member use them too.

The sad part is that if these social network were run by the government, people would have a hissy fit, yet these companies have been shown to corporate with government agencies.

I do not like the present implementation, these social network are the new mass media, the same way radio overtook print, and tv overtook TV, then the Internet and social media overtaking the former. Does that mean print, radio, TV have been replaced; no, it just means that most people are shifting to other forms of media for entertainment consumption.
 
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