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Core 2 Duo MacBooks Tomorrow?

?maniac said:
I find it hard to believe an Apple employee would EVER admit that "over the phone", and if that guy did would have zero job tomorrow if that was true. They scan these forums like a fine tooth comb for stuff like that.

More importantly, those London people know a heck of a lot less, and more importantly, he was in RETAIL, not 1 Infinite Loop, so his opinion is thppppphhh....

I am going to wait it out, although I do have a MacPro, and a 15" PowerBook, so my anxiety is not very high.
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So do you think that Apple doesn't train their employees before an update product comes out? They do, and they make sure that the employees keep tight lipped about everything. The fact that he told him "We've got MacBooks" just confirms that they're not going to be updated for a while.
 
Entertained

Does anyone else here find it entertaining how many posts come in with purely emotional responses to guestimated release dates?

"Apple HAS TO RELEASE new MacBooks next week because, I'm like freakin' out and stuff about buyin' a new comptuer for classes, and my buddy Joey, whose cousin works at an Apple store, tells me that Apple will release C2D MacBooks that won't need trackpads because they'll use new iSight's to read your mind to open programs and stuff."

Here's my suggestion for MacRumors: replace your postiive/negative response buttons with an "emotional reaction bar" with a 1-10 scale a la hotornot.com. We could rate the forum on such 1-10 scales as: 10-Straight from Steve Job's personal play book to 1-about as real as my G5 PB, 10-God

P.S.

Let's all hope that Apple does not, in fact, release mind-reading notebooks so that we're not all subjected to public embarassment when our computers execute endlessly repeating searches for Jessica Alba (she's so hot right now) photos everytime we turn it on.
 
Entertained

Does anyone else here find it entertaining how many posts come in with purely emotional responses to guestimated release dates?

"Apple HAS TO RELEASE new MacBooks next week because I'm like freakin' out and stuff about buyin' a new comptuer for classes, and my buddy Joey, whose cousin works at an Apple store, tells me that Apple will release C2D MacBooks that won't need trackpads because they'll use new iSight's to read your mind to open programs and stuff."

Here's my suggestion for MacRumors: replace your postiive/negative response buttons with an "emotional reaction bar" with a 1-10 scale a la hotornot.com. We could rate the forum on such 1-10 scales as 10-Straight from Steve Job's personal play book to 1-about as real as my G5 PB. It could also be applied to contributors as a more useful tool for rating the validity of their comments than the current frequencey-based newbie-demigod scale.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand...

Here's a link to a Dell XPS M1210 12" C2D notebook, with (here's the catch) an upgrade option that improves the graphics card from an integrated solution to a 256MB worthwhile option. The number one reason that I have been reluctant to trade my 12'' PB G4 in for a MB is the integrated graphics card. If Dell can do it, Apple surely can. It would be nice if Apple were to offer the seperate graphics cards as say a true value add for the "premium" BlackBook.

Anyway, the point of all this is to raise two (semi-rhetorical) points:

1) Other companies are releasing small, C2D laptops which indicates that the Apple delay isn't techincal (as it was with the G5's), but organizational/market driven.

2) Wouldn't Apple be stupid to miss the holiday shopping season by waiting until January 2007 for a MB update?

Let's hope we see something next week because they're getting dangerously close to the largest purchasing months of the year. If they miss this opportunity, I'm going to start worrying about Apple's product development teams.

JP

P.S.

Let's all hope that Apple does not, in fact, release the aforementioned mind-reading notebooks so that we're not all subjected to public embarassment when our computers execute endlessly repeating searches for Jessica Alba (she's so hot right now) photos everytime we open safari.
 
Warbrain said:
So do you think that Apple doesn't train their employees before an update product comes out? They do, and they make sure that the employees keep tight lipped about everything. The fact that he told him "We've got MacBooks" just confirms that they're not going to be updated for a while.
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NO, they don't. I previously worked in Apple Retail at a Flagship Store for 4 years, as a manager, so NO, we never got product releases ahead of time, EVER. Every now and then, we might have recieved iLife a day before customers, that is the extent of it.

As far as training, it's the employees resposibility to stay up to date with product.
 
sbbruiser said:
The number one reason that I have been reluctant to trade my 12'' PB G4 in for a MB is the integrated graphics card. If Dell can do it, Apple surely can. It would be nice if Apple were to offer the seperate graphics cards as say a true value add for the "premium" BlackBook.
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I think along these lines too and I'm currently waiting to replace my rev c 12" pbook.
 
?maniac said:
As far as training, it's the employees resposibility to stay up to date with product.
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You're ******** me. I know that's not the case. Apple will inform their employees of the products for at least a week in advance so they know what the product entails so they can sell the damn thing when it arrives in stores. And yes, sometimes it does arrive in stores a few days before it's announced.
 
sbbruiser said:
2) Wouldn't Apple be stupid to miss the holiday shopping season by waiting until January 2007 for a MB update?
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i was in an apple store yesterday, and some guy walked in asking one of the workers about the macbook. "umm . . so can i put MS office on this? . . .umm . . so this will work better with my ipod right?"

bottom line is this represents the typical market for the macbooks, people that don't know or care about C2D. the salesperson could've told this guy that the computer has Power PC processor and he'd be like "cool"

my point is that the majority of consumers in the market for a laptop will keep gobbling these things up through the holiday season whether they have a CD, C2D, or a monkey inside it pulling on strings.

just my 2 cents
 
When I spoke to an employee in my local store (Arndale, Manchester), the guy said he found out about the iPod Nano (RED) about 3 weeks before launch, but they don't find out about any of the big releases, a la MBP.
 
I'm starting to wonder why MacRumors even posted this on Page 2 when its claim wasn't even close. It's prolly making everyone who wants a MB even more agitated when it's not 'Tomorrow'..

indiekiduk said:
Good call MacRumors putting this one on page 2. Its Digg's fault I found it.
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Digg got it from MacRumors so it's not their fault.
 
Warbrain said:
You're ******** me. I know that's not the case. Apple will inform their employees of the products for at least a week in advance so they know what the product entails so they can sell the damn thing when it arrives in stores. And yes, sometimes it does arrive in stores a few days before it's announced.
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You would THINK that would be the case, but it's unfortunately not. Here in NYC, you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE in the 5th ave or SoHo stores that have any clue about ANY future releases. Fact of the matter is, Apple recruits their retail staff from places like the GAP, and H&M. Like someone just mentioned, the targeted customer at the retail stores is the average "will this computer make my ipod go faster" customer. And from a strictly speaking business standpoint, theres nothing wrong with that. Those are the people who usually make large impulse purchases *shrugs*. It's forums like these that help us more inclined prosumers make decisions on buying or waiting for new products, NOT Apple retail.:) Although I do whole heartedly agree with you. I really wish they would at the least, hand out a short primer detailing a possible new product release. So the employees don't look like a deer in headlights when asked a more informed question.
 
Thornie said:
You would THINK that would be the case, but it's unfortunately not. Here in NYC, you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE in the 5th ave or SoHo stores that have any clue about ANY future releases. Fact of the matter is, Apple recruits their retail staff from places like the GAP, and H&M. Like someone just mentioned, the targeted customer at the retail stores is the average "will this computer make my ipod go faster" customer. And from a strictly speaking business standpoint, theres nothing wrong with that. Those are the people who usually make large impulse purchases *shrugs*. It's forums like these that help us more inclined prosumers make decisions on buying or waiting for new products, NOT Apple retail.:) Although I do whole heartedly agree with you. I really wish they would at the least, hand out a short primer detailing a possible new product release. So the employees don't look like a deer in headlights when asked a more informed question.
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They will always come from a pattern of secrecy, that is the secret sauce to their success. They want you to stew in the brew until it happens, the longer, and the more you think about it, the more likely you are to make a purchase, and get heavy upgrades as well. Apple Retail is in the DARK about future releases, and that is so the employees don't get quoted in papers, and the INTERNET, and the company is accountable. So, take the word of an Ex-Apple Retail Manager, who was there from DAY ONE.

I would love to see these sooner that January, but they truly are concentrating on flash ipods now, so who knows.
 
too many rumors

tooo many rumors....
not enough c2d macbooks :mad: :mad: :mad
still i stand by the prediction of 11/14 being the last chance for an update
 
Warbrain said:
Simple answer:

No. Not tomorrow. Not next week. Not next month. Next year.
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Right so apparently Apple doesn't want to stay competative with it's competitors and sell better technology. Basically buying the chips at the same price or at a reduced price as their other lines because they would be buying in bigger numbers. I guess apples just bad at business all of a sudden.

I'de imagine they'll release the new macbooks once the old stock of core duos are sold.
 
Warbrain said:
Simple answer:

No. Not tomorrow. Not next week. Not next month. Next year.
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I suspect we won't see a Core 2 Duo Macbook until Santa Rosa comes out. Santa Rosa is Centrino, that puts the Graphics Card, Airport and Processor in one unit.
 
what did u say ???

CanadianGrit said:
I suspect we won't see a Core 2 Duo Macbook until Santa Rosa comes out. Santa Rosa is Centrino, that puts the Graphics Card, Airport and Processor in one unit.
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Are u out of ur mind !!!!! ????
No new MB until next year !!!!

So who come Apple are running low on their stock ... !!!
WHO I GET it ... ur so brillant that they are goin to stop selling them over the Xmas shopping period !!! that's so clever of ur thinking !!!! LMAO !!!

COMON ..... wake up ....... and smell what's coming !!!! geezzzz peps

:confused:
 
CanadianGrit said:
I suspect we won't see a Core 2 Duo Macbook until Santa Rosa comes out. Santa Rosa is Centrino, that puts the Graphics Card, Airport and Processor in one unit.
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Apple doesn't use Intel wireless, it uses its own AirPort wireless chips. And there's no way Apple will wait until January to update the MacBooks, they need to be updated prior to Black Friday, in order to look comparable to Windows offerings during the busiest retail time of the year.
 
Thornie said:
You would THINK that would be the case, but it's unfortunately not. Here in NYC, you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE in the 5th ave or SoHo stores that have any clue about ANY future releases. Fact of the matter is, Apple recruits their retail staff from places like the GAP, and H&M. Like someone just mentioned, the targeted customer at the retail stores is the average "will this computer make my ipod go faster" customer. And from a strictly speaking business standpoint, theres nothing wrong with that. Those are the people who usually make large impulse purchases *shrugs*. It's forums like these that help us more inclined prosumers make decisions on buying or waiting for new products, NOT Apple retail.:) Although I do whole heartedly agree with you. I really wish they would at the least, hand out a short primer detailing a possible new product release. So the employees don't look like a deer in headlights when asked a more informed question.
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You're dealing with terrible Apple store staff then. Here in Chicago at all of our Apple stores, we have employees that know what products they're selling and what they are going to soon be selling.
 
If it is released sometime this year, I'll buy it that day. If not, I'll have to settle for a Core Duo. My Mac mini is getting old. :(
 
Go into an Apple Store and listen to what the average laptop buyer says. They don't have a clue about upcomming products. Apple will sell plenty of MacBooks this year without upgrading.

I was in an Apple Store last weekend, and someone was happy to buy a MacBook Pro untill she was told they were just upgraded and the new stock was comming in on wednesday...

That said, I hope they do upgrade, even if I've ordered a MBP anyway.
 
glow9 said:
Right so apparently Apple doesn't want to stay competative with it's competitors and sell better technology. Basically buying the chips at the same price or at a reduced price as their other lines because they would be buying in bigger numbers. I guess apples just bad at business all of a sudden.

I'de imagine they'll release the new macbooks once the old stock of core duos are sold.
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Well when you consider that some of Apple's competitors are still selling laptops with Pentium M's and Celeron M's in them,as well as Core Duos, their technology isn't that old after all ;) And as far as them being bad at business all of a sudden,just check their financials and stock P/E performance as of late...
 
A few weeks before the iPods were updated, Apple started clearing out refurbs on the UK shop (the full range, prior to this it would just be the odd one or two listed at any one time).

A few weeks before the MacBook Pros were updated, Apple started clearing out refurbs on the UK shop (the full range, prior to this it would just be the odd one or two listed at any one time).

Apple have just started clearing out refurbs of the full range of MacBooks on the UK shop, prior to which none had been available.

It makes sense - when a range is going to be updated they need to get rid of any old stock (especially refurbs) as they will be devalued as soon as the updated products are released. It also gives them a way of dumping existing stock as refurbs, rather than having to actually discount them.
 
babyj said:
Apple have just started clearing out refurbs of the full range of MacBooks on the UK shop, prior to which none had been available.
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I noticed the MacBooks had appeared on the refurb store too, first time I remember seeing them.
 
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