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Core 2 Duo MacBooks Tomorrow?
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Wait... Hoooold... Hold... Sooner than next year.
While I appreciate all opinions after reading the past three pages lets get
the facts.
The MacBook outsells the MBPro 3 to 1.
Apples use of higher RAM configs in the MBP's
is a signal that the MacBook should have a better
RAM config straight out of the box.
Today is not over yet, and I hope the rumor is true.
I will not order until the MacBook is updated.
There has been a ton of feedback given to Apple over the
past several months on how to improve the MacBook, so
I think there will be drastic changes.
Say goodbye to BLACK as well is my prediction, and as far as
RED goes, I think not, that would be an eye sore. I am sure
it would be amazing for about a week.
With the amount of volume and popularity the MacBook has recieved
I expect it to have high marks in WOW appeal, and anyone who buys
now before launch of new MacBook will be feeling left out.
The stores have seen SOFT sales of MacBooks since the MBP update, it
should not be too long.
My prediction.
AND ONE MORE THING...
Apple Media Event on Nov. 14 to steal the thunder from Microsoft Zune,
Holiday Special
Buy A MacBook and Get a Free iPod Nano! (WISHFUL THINKING)
While I appreciate all opinions after reading the past three pages lets get
the facts.
The MacBook outsells the MBPro 3 to 1.
Apples use of higher RAM configs in the MBP's
is a signal that the MacBook should have a better
RAM config straight out of the box.
Today is not over yet, and I hope the rumor is true.
I will not order until the MacBook is updated.
There has been a ton of feedback given to Apple over the
past several months on how to improve the MacBook, so
I think there will be drastic changes.
Say goodbye to BLACK as well is my prediction, and as far as
RED goes, I think not, that would be an eye sore. I am sure
it would be amazing for about a week.
With the amount of volume and popularity the MacBook has recieved
I expect it to have high marks in WOW appeal, and anyone who buys
now before launch of new MacBook will be feeling left out.
The stores have seen SOFT sales of MacBooks since the MBP update, it
should not be too long.
My prediction.
AND ONE MORE THING...
Apple Media Event on Nov. 14 to steal the thunder from Microsoft Zune,
Holiday Special
Buy A MacBook and Get a Free iPod Nano! (WISHFUL THINKING)
That's because they have lived on an Island far to long.
I have made up my mind now. I will pack up my CD Macbook and send it back (within the 14 days after purchase). Maybe this will get the message through that they should not sell systems with the initial price-tag right before an important update is due.
While it is a nice computer, it is not that I can not do without it. This whole waiting game is getting on my nerves and I spend far to much time refreshing the Apple Store and reading these rumor pages. There is always one more reason to wait for the next best thing: C2D, Leopard, iLive200x, Santa Rosa...
Happy waiting altogether!
No. EM64T adds several features beyond the capability to address more memory, one of the most significant is the doubling of the number of registers from 8 to 16.
The Core 2 Duo also has other features over the Core Duo, such as SSSE3 (improved version of SSE3), and Virtualization Technology.
Well, I haven't had any problems with Mozilla products in the past, but since all my problems were listed as "regular bugs" on their support site I guess I can't be the only one... My problem though, was that after the first bug was fixed, another one came up, fixed that one, then another came up, fixed that one, then another came up
Serves me right for having this ****** Windows XP Media Center Edition In the end I had to completely remove any traces of the Firefox installation, both from the install folder and from 2 different hidden directories as well as from the registry, restart the computer, remove some more (hidden) files that I didn't see first time around, restart and then reinstall Firefox to make it work. In the end it turned out that only 2 of the bugs were due to Firefox, while the last 3 were due to Windows corrupting some of the "pref" files in the Application Data directory...
Ahh, yes, Windows XP...
Makes sense. I bought an iBook last August when I knew I would need something I could take to school with me when I wanted to, but I knew that I wouldn't be able to wait until the Intel portables were released, so I just bit the bullet and bought the PPC portable that I knew I could use for the next few years. Sometimes it's just better to buy now and realize that you're not going to be using the best computer for long but at least you'll be happy with your purchase. Yea, I would've liked an Intel portable, but I'm glad I bought my iBook. I love it to death.
Believe me I have been itching to just say ".... it!, I'll buy one now", but on the other hand I will really need to squeeze as much life out of this purchase as possible, as I'm not really going to have the money to upgrade again any time soon. Therefore waiting a few weeks more, or perhaps a few months doesn't bother me that much. Also I didn't really settle on an Apple until a few weeks ago, when a fellow student showed me his Macbook and I fully realised the potential of Mac OS. I'm not one of the guys who've been waiting since early September
Still I want my new toy
Hi there,
I, like many other people here, have been waiting ages for Apple to release the C2D Macbooks. I've just been looking on my university's Apple webstore (we can get discounts for personal purchases), and they're offering the following:
Apple MacBook, 13" screen, 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo processor, 1GB RAM (they're offering a free upgrade), 60Gb HDD, and a Combo drive, in white.
The price is $989+Tax, and they're offering the AppleCare Protection Plan for $183.
What do people think about this? Is the price too good to refuse, or should I really wait until the C2D Macbooks are released?
Thanks!
Dan.
I, like many other people here, have been waiting ages for Apple to release the C2D Macbooks. I've just been looking on my university's Apple webstore (we can get discounts for personal purchases), and they're offering the following:
Apple MacBook, 13" screen, 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo processor, 1GB RAM (they're offering a free upgrade), 60Gb HDD, and a Combo drive, in white.
The price is $989+Tax, and they're offering the AppleCare Protection Plan for $183.
What do people think about this? Is the price too good to refuse, or should I really wait until the C2D Macbooks are released?
Thanks!
Dan.
Completely useless NO! But I have to say I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy such a computer unless I really needed some of the other advantages that Merom offers.
Meroms current advantages can be very important to some people, this can't be discounted. What is important to you is another matter. The reality is that even the Yonah based laptops will be useful for at least a couple of years more.
It is like this if you have a choice between laptops with and without Merom in them then you should go the Merom route. It does offer significant advantages today, but maybe not that significant for a casual buy that can be put
Dave
Meroms current advantages can be very important to some people, this can't be discounted. What is important to you is another matter. The reality is that even the Yonah based laptops will be useful for at least a couple of years more.
It is like this if you have a choice between laptops with and without Merom in them then you should go the Merom route. It does offer significant advantages today, but maybe not that significant for a casual buy that can be put
Dave
if you dont mind...
If you don't mind the wait... then wait it out... however you do take the risk of there being NO update at all until 07... if you need the MB or want it bad enough just pull the trigger... there are hundred of people out there with a MB now and love it! its a great machine now that most bugs are fixed...plus there in his MB they beefed up the ram for you... is it a refurbed mb or new??
i don't know, unless you don't mind the waiting...
If you don't mind the wait... then wait it out... however you do take the risk of there being NO update at all until 07... if you need the MB or want it bad enough just pull the trigger... there are hundred of people out there with a MB now and love it! its a great machine now that most bugs are fixed...plus there in his MB they beefed up the ram for you... is it a refurbed mb or new??
i don't know, unless you don't mind the waiting...
While I don't see Apple dropping 32 bit support real quick on the Intel platform I don't see them taking much interest in it either. First even with all the 32 bit Intel machines sold it isn't a big number especially with sights set very much on the 64 bit world. In a nut shell the move to the 32 bit Intel hardware was a distraction due to IBM falling flat on its face with respect to PPC development.
The second issue with OS/X is that Apple appears to be taking the time to do the 64 bit graphical world right on the 64 bit platforms. Thus 64 OS/X and the associated libraries will be very compelling for software developers resulting in a lack of development for the 32 bit Intel world. So if you are into custom software development it would be very important to be on a 64 bit platform as soon as possible. From the standpoint of a user I tend to think along the same lines as you, that is by the time there is a good selection of true 64 bit applications for 64 bit OS/X you will likely have much better hardware available to buy to run said software.
The key to this is, which many seem to be missing, is that the Yonah based hardware is really not that bad. Especially in a world where older Centrino hardware is still sold - it is not like Yonah has even achieved full penetration into the market. So either way by the time that 64 bit OS/X is out your hardware will effectively be dated.
dave
The second issue with OS/X is that Apple appears to be taking the time to do the 64 bit graphical world right on the 64 bit platforms. Thus 64 OS/X and the associated libraries will be very compelling for software developers resulting in a lack of development for the 32 bit Intel world. So if you are into custom software development it would be very important to be on a 64 bit platform as soon as possible. From the standpoint of a user I tend to think along the same lines as you, that is by the time there is a good selection of true 64 bit applications for 64 bit OS/X you will likely have much better hardware available to buy to run said software.
The key to this is, which many seem to be missing, is that the Yonah based hardware is really not that bad. Especially in a world where older Centrino hardware is still sold - it is not like Yonah has even achieved full penetration into the market. So either way by the time that 64 bit OS/X is out your hardware will effectively be dated.
dave
64-bit is the next big thing, but they won't be dropping 32-bit for quite awhile (those of us with our Core Duo machines might object
ATL Apple Stores
... have the MPB Core 2s in stock, but only with non-glossy screens. Perimeter Mall's store has the 2.16 and 2.33 GHz and can do a memory upgrade if you want it.
Me, I hate Windows now with a hot, hot lava-like hate, so I'm going to the MBP Core 2.
When I built a brand new Core 2 for Windows, it ended up performing slower than my old P3 that died from old age. explorer.exe hangs now constantly and it takes minutes sometimes for me to browse files. This started happening right after I had installed Windows and Office 2K3. Using the latest drivers, the best components, blah blah blah.
Windows is a turd. IE is the biggest stinker ever released. Using the company MBP over the past few months has show me the error of being content to put up with crap from Redmond. The only worry I have it whether I'll have to use Microsoft Office on the Mac. I don't want to use MS software anymore, but haven't researched the alternatives in Mac-land. Any suggestions?
... have the MPB Core 2s in stock, but only with non-glossy screens. Perimeter Mall's store has the 2.16 and 2.33 GHz and can do a memory upgrade if you want it.
Me, I hate Windows now with a hot, hot lava-like hate, so I'm going to the MBP Core 2.
When I built a brand new Core 2 for Windows, it ended up performing slower than my old P3 that died from old age. explorer.exe hangs now constantly and it takes minutes sometimes for me to browse files. This started happening right after I had installed Windows and Office 2K3. Using the latest drivers, the best components, blah blah blah.
Windows is a turd. IE is the biggest stinker ever released. Using the company MBP over the past few months has show me the error of being content to put up with crap from Redmond. The only worry I have it whether I'll have to use Microsoft Office on the Mac. I don't want to use MS software anymore, but haven't researched the alternatives in Mac-land. Any suggestions?
Just an observation. Apple may be delaying the introduction of the MacBook update until after it has fille (more or less) the backlog of MBP orders in the pipeline. I make this observation based on the pattern established in the introduction of the Macintosh Pro, iMac and now the MBP. Moreover if I understand it correctly some if not all the MacBooks are made on the same production lines as the MBPs. Apple is very fond of saying "shipping now" at the time of and introduction. Pretty hard to do when there is such a large back order of MBPs.
Just a thought. If I am right that would make Nov 14 a very likely date for introduction.
Just a thought. If I am right that would make Nov 14 a very likely date for introduction.
Thanks for the advice. It's a brand new MB, not a refurbished one. I guess having 1Gb of RAM is a good thing, and may very well bring about a higher performance increase than a C2D MB with 512 Mb. Unless of course Apple decides to follow suit with the MBPs, and introduce a C2D MB with a minimum 1 Gb of memory. Nightmare!
Cheers,
Dan.
Mind you, they're very fond of saying that it's shipping now only when it's a minor update like the MacBook Pros got. When it's all new, they like to make people wait.
The Black MacBook produces free money for Apple. Sure, it's a little harder to maintain another SKU, but... free money. I mean really; it's only difference is the use of black in the case and ports, yet it costs a premium. Why would Apple give this up?
Red MacBook... I just can't even guess. There are good reasons to go either way on this. But I am leaning toward yes. How many other red laptops do you see out there? A Red MacBook would stand out like a (really cool) sore thumb. It's just more free advertising for Apple.
I've talked to SJ and he told it himself...no MBs until MW 2007...
So Steve won't have my money for the holidays. What a shame...
Same here. I was ready to drop another $3k on a Rev B MB after doing the same on a Rev A. bought the new shuffle, and I guess that's all they'll get from me till January. It's a shame, but I guess they're doing fine with selling early 2006 tech this late in the year. I guess that's the thing, right? Don't over-extend yourself if you don't have to. Unfortunately, us early adopters have to twiddle our thumbs and wait.
I can promise you that release dates almost never have anything to do with precedent or tradition - though that would make our lives a whole lot easier here at MacRumors.