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I can't wait for Gorilla Glass 10. You can run over it with a tank, but it will still get scratched in your pocket.
 
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Never a scratch when in my pocket, even with some coins. Now, and then with keys as well. Something you are doing that is not being said or admitted to.

easy solution to avoid scratches. one pocket for phone and separate pocket for keys. I spent the extra money and purchased apple's leather case which has a number of scratches and scuffs. Its a 600 dollar purchase, as such a take care of it.

It's not keys and coins that can scratch your screen, it's tiny particles of sand, quartz, sapphire, and other hard materials that you never know may end up in your pocket or even on the tip of your thumb.
 
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This reminds me of the "Mac vs PC" commercial when PC got a Vista upgrade.

It's new Gorilla 5 glass, it won't have any of the problems of the Gorilla 4 glass... It won't break!

It's the new Gorilla 4 glass, it won't have any of the problems of the Gorilla 3 glass. It won't break!

It's the new Gorilla 3 glass...

Somehow I feel like I've heard it before :D

Omg, EXACTLY how I felt!! =)
Supposedly, Apple always uses the latest Gorilla glass, but their screens seem very succeptible to shattering.
 
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Coat this crap with sapphire and ship it, Apple!

This gives me hope for the 10th Anniversary iPhone, which is rumored to have an all-glass enclosure. The worst thing about the iPhone 4, besides the antenna, was how easily it would crack. The best thing about the iPhone 4 is that it was an incredibly beautiful piece of design. I hope we can have our cake and eat it too in 2017!
 
The company that people were basing those rumors on gambled too large and went out of business.

The company went large because they had an arrangement (a weak one, evidently) with Apple in which they would or could supply sapphire screens. Apple let them go bankrupt and kept its large cash pile safe, rather than assisting them and offering to consumers a better product. Gorilla Glass was and is 'good enough' for Apple, despite offering no differentiation from Samsung, Huawei and the like.
 
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Yes but Gorilla Glass's tests are very controlled - Notice that the demo phone in their marketing material has raised plastic covering the edges of the phone.

iPhone 6/6s has rounded, unprotected edges very prone to shattering (so I learnt last weekend)
Me too. Slipped on a set of brick walkway stairs.
What I use on my 6S+ and the crash result.
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It helps with the scratches but also importantly ...
 
Do you line your pockets with diamond coated sandpaper?

I've had a 5S since whenever the 5S was new and put it in my pocket everyday, with no screen protector. I can't see or feel a single scratch on it. Granted, I rarely ever put keys or coins in the same pocket, but I routinely put other things like pens & pencils, iPhone earbuds, and glasses.
Nope, just ordinary pockets.
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Do you guys keep in diamonds in your pockets or what? I never use screen protectors and mine are pristine. So much so that I consider them a useless scam now, unless you are working/doing activity in an dangerous environment. What's needed is better shatter protection for people like my cousins, who are so careless they drop their phone nearly everyday.
Nope, not at all.
People are suggesting I've got sand in my pocket but how does that work, as I've never been to the beach with many of my clothes? Not many sandy beaches where I am and not a lot of weather to go to the beach anyway. Where else does the sand come from?

So yeah IMO what'#s needed is better scratch protection. I haven't dropped my phone in a way that would smash it yet.
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Never a scratch when in my pocket, even with some coins. Now, and then with keys as well. Something you are doing that is not being said or admitted to.
Oh man, don't accuse me of lying. That's not cool.

I only ever place my iPhone in the right-hand pocket of whatever I am wearing. which has nothing else in it. On occasion it is easier to put it in my left hand pocket, but I only ever do so if it is also completely empty. Otherwise, the phone is sitting on a desk or docked.

My iPhone has never shared a pocket with any abrasive material.
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Do you live in a dusty/sandy area? Little grains that end up in your pocket can be hard enough to scratch it. That's where my scratches come from.
No that I am aware of, but this is the leading theory. I live in south London, no beaches or desert to be seen here. The only thing that there's a lot of is knives, and we know the iPhone can withstand knives thanks to said YouTubers ;)
 
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As many there have mentioned, I have personally never shattered a screen but I still get micro scratches all over the screen while just keeping it in my otherwise empty pocket. Didn't think I'd still be rocking a screen protector in 2016 but here I am
think we need to be clear on the scratches you see others are talking about here. As a few people have mentioned now the vast majority of scratches on phones these days are not the actual screen or the glass but the fingerprint coating applied on top of the glass.
Are you sure any scratching you have seen is to the glass? Seems the actual glass has been pretty resistant for a few years now.
 
Not sure what you're talking about. Just putting the phone in your pocket over time it develops scratches.

Pockets without keys or anything like that in them either.

Weird, got to admit I'm in the camp of keeping my phone in my pocket and I've never had screen scratches since the iPhone 4S.

The Watch on the other hand got a hideous deep gouge in about the first week ☹️
 
I bet it still scratches when you put your phone in your pocket with literally nothing else in it.

I still can't believe that YouTubers will take knives and screwdrivers to phone screens and it doesn't leave a scratch, yet I take care and only out my phone in my pocket on its own and it's riddled with them.

I'm sure Gorilla Glass 18 will still have this problem. To me, it all sounds like marketing hype to sell more glass
 
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Corning today unveiled its next-generation Gorilla Glass product, Gorilla Glass 5. The new glass, designed to be used in mobile device displays, offers improved protection against breakage from accidental drops.

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Building on previous generations of Gorilla Glass, Corning's latest product survives 80 percent of the time when dropped face-down from 1.6 meters (5.2 feet) onto a rough surface during lab tests. According to Corning, Gorilla Glass 5 survives drops four times better than competing glass products.

Corning's Gorilla Glass 5 will begin making its way into products starting later in 2016, and it is a prime candidate for inclusion in either the 2016 iPhone 7 and/or the 2017 iPhone 8. Corning has been a long-time supplier for Apple, with Apple using its Gorilla Glass for its iPad and iPhone lineup. Corning's last Gorilla Glass product, Gorilla Glass 4, came out in 2014.

Article Link: Corning Debuts Gorilla Glass 5 With Improved Drop Protection

That video's muzak was about as cheesy and orchestrated (pun intended) as it gets.

This is a company that takes a very Apple-inspired approach to iterative improvements.

In other words, lots of exceedingly-minor improvements for exorbitant prices while competitors start to put out larger improvements ahead of them and have more bang for the buck?
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I'm sure Gorilla Glass 18 will still have this problem. To me, it all sounds like marketing hype to sell more glass

Bingo. The video in the news article there is as hokey as it gets. Complete with actress to sell another racist point of view, since Japanese, Chinese, and Korean people are not caucasian (and how call center helpers use American sounding names and Autotune to change their voice instead of having personal pride, but I digress) --> http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/n...ss-invented-in-US.-But-will-jobs-head-to-Asia
(From 2010, did Trump convince them not to move because of all the entitlements it already gets from the US?)
 
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The company went large because they had an arrangement (a weak one, evidently) with Apple in which they would or could supply sapphire screens. Apple let them go bankrupt and kept its large cash pile safe, rather than assisting them and offering to consumers a better product. Gorilla Glass was and is 'good enough' for Apple, despite offering no differentiation from Samsung, Huawei and the like.

You sound like someone who got burned by the deal.
No, they wanted to cash in, took a bite way larger than they could chew based on nothing more than what the people chattering on the Internet and so called Analysts were spouting, and fumbled.

Lol at the better product bit though.
 
So how does it compare to GG4? Nobody is wondering that?

Corning is hiding this information to create a hype and ppl are too stupid to see that GG5 is probably 3% or so stronger than GG4 against breakage.
[doublepost=1469105927][/doublepost]Wut? Sapphire has much more reflectivity than GG. Put your iPhone's home button (iPhone 5s+) against the light and compare it with its sides. It'll look not so good as a screen.

Coat this crap with sapphire and ship it, Apple!

This gives me hope for the 10th Anniversary iPhone, which is rumored to have an all-glass enclosure. The worst thing about the iPhone 4, besides the antenna, was how easily it would crack. The best thing about the iPhone 4 is that it was an incredibly beautiful piece of design. I hope we can have our cake and eat it too in 2017!
 
Nope, just ordinary pockets.
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Nope, not at all.
People are suggesting I've got sand in my pocket but how does that work, as I've never been to the beach with many of my clothes? Not many sandy beaches where I am and not a lot of weather to go to the beach anyway. Where else does the sand come from?

So yeah IMO what'#s needed is better scratch protection. I haven't dropped my phone in a way that would smash it yet.
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Oh man, don't accuse me of lying. That's not cool.

I only ever place my iPhone in the right-hand pocket of whatever I am wearing. which has nothing else in it. On occasion it is easier to put it in my left hand pocket, but I only ever do so if it is also completely empty. Otherwise, the phone is sitting on a desk or docked.

My iPhone has never shared a pocket with any abrasive material.
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No that I am aware of, but this is the leading theory. I live in south London, no beaches or desert to be seen here. The only thing that there's a lot of is knives, and we know the iPhone can withstand knives thanks to said YouTubers ;)
We are talking about physics and chemistry here. If you agree that the screen can withstand a knife or keys, do you honestly think it's the fabric in your pants cause the scratches? The only rational explanation is that there are particles in your pocket that are hard enough to cause the scratches. There is no debate.

There is something you aren't aware of causing this.
 
whatever happened to the sapphire screen tech ? I think the company was going under or something but wasn't those screens like impossible to destroy or something. I shattered one iphone once and paid $100 to fix and never had a naked phone again.
 
This is a company that takes a very Apple-inspired approach to iterative improvements.

Ah so you're saying they make calculated, incremental improvements each iteration -- even though they have the ability to go above where they're at, they hold back a bit so as to ensure future sales and a better "future" product... cause that's what I see Apple doing! (sort of tongue-in-cheek bashing that model. I obviously still buy iPhones lol)
 
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What if they make the glass cheaply+easily replaceable ? Then we don't have to worry about making scientific breakthrough in glass making an we can have a brand new screen every 6months or so.
 
Not sure what you're talking about. Just putting the phone in your pocket over time it develops scratches.

Pockets without keys or anything like that in them either.
My understanding, unless it's been improved in GG4/5, was that Gorilla Glass was just below that of Quartz, which for practical purpose, is in the dirt / sands which collect over time in your pocket. Once GG exceeds 7 Mohs hardness it should be near impervious to scraching. As the minerals at 8 and 9 hardness aren't found in the common environment or in pocket dirt and dust.

At that point the screen protector market would be obsolete. I've taken that since the screen protector market still exists that GG hasn't exceeded 7 hardness yet.

If GG exceeds 7 and is around 8 or 8+, then as has been stated, your screen isn't scratching -- something placed on the screen is (like anti-reflect coating).
 
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But does it survive scratches. That has always and will always until proven otherwise be my issue with screens.

I've never had a scratch on my iPhone screens. When I had an iPhone 4, the rear glass was scratched to ****, but the screen and the glass over the camera were still flawless.
 
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so like, who needs Applecare+ ? It still won't stand the tests of "drop testers"do on Youtube.... No protection will stay safe.
 
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