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That’s probably true, that he was referring just to the UK strain. However, if they (UK) are ahead of us in terms of developing a booster for their known variant, why is the US so late knowingly that the Delta variant was well reported back in April crippling India [And now Indonesia] and had already made its way here we suspected in late May. The US doesn’t even have a Phase 1 trial yet, and Phase 3 probably wouldn’t even be completed possibly until late fall and not even available to 2022, with that all said, a booster shot probably would be a little late with a secondary surge early fall, considering that it appears that the UK is already in preparation.

The expected surge is in the unvaccinated population. If they wouldn't take the existing vaccination, why do you think that they would take a booster? If there is a booster, I'll be in line as soon as it opens for my category.
 
And here we go.

The US' biggest county is going back to mask mandates while indoors, vaccinated, unvaccinated, or otherwise.


I wouldn't be surprised if the trend continues, especially seeing how the Lambda variant has now been detected in the Las Vegas valley, with now having 900 cases in the past week.


BL.
 
I don't think the Delta and Lambda variants will be as dangerous as the initial variants. Mostly because 1) the best vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and possibly Sputnik V seem to work fairly well against the new variants and 2) reducing co-morbidity factors really helps in reducing the chance of getting sick.
 
I don't think the Delta and Lambda variants will be as dangerous as the initial variants. Mostly because 1) the best vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and possibly Sputnik V seem to work fairly well against the new variants and 2) reducing co-morbidity factors really helps in reducing the chance of getting sick.

The issue for those of us that take care of the unvaccinated is that there's a higher chance of breakthrough. I would prefer a booster against Delta and Lambda as I'm in that situation. Medical personnel might feel the same way as they come more into close contact with people that may be infected, and people that can't get the vaccine.

One trader that I follow on Twitter said that he was getting vaccinated in a week. He's been a stage 4 cancer patient for several years and I assumed that his treatment regimen meant that he wasn't able to get the vaccine yet. So he's had to be very, very careful about where he went and who he met.
 
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Looking past all that, because of the consistency of the mutated strains from various parts of the world, a booster shot will almost be completely necessary for all these vaccinations, Regardless of the resiliency. I would say that’s the next step in terms to battle the intelligence of C/19 .

Also, for what it’s worth, I mentioned earlier that I think supplies will be constrained again, my wife already told me that their PPE list is on back order for some things (They obviously place mass bulk orders for months in advance), which is going to show you that as we approach closer to fall, you probably will have a higher unlikely finding various types of masks, sanitizers, etc.
 
Looking past all that, because of the consistency of the mutated strains from various parts of the world, a booster shot will almost be completely necessary for all these vaccinations, Regardless of the resiliency. I would say that’s the next step in terms to battle the intelligence of C/19 .

Also, for what it’s worth, I mentioned earlier that I think supplies will be constrained again, my wife already told me that their PPE list is on back order for some things (They obviously place mass bulk orders for months in advance), which is going to show you that as we approach closer to fall, you probably will have a higher unlikely finding various types of masks, sanitizers, etc.

Gloves, alcohol, hand sanitizer and masks (consumer grade) are easy to get right now. I think that supply chains have ramped up and two-thirds are at least partially vaccinated so hopefully we don't run into national shortages again. Do I think a booster will be necessary? The stock market sure thinks so. I, unfortunately, only have 200 shares.

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Gloves, alcohol, hand sanitizer and masks (consumer grade) are easy to get right now. I think that supply chains have ramped up and two-thirds are at least partially vaccinated so hopefully we don't run into national shortages again. Do I think a booster will be necessary? The stock market sure thinks so. I, unfortunately, only have 200 shares.
Supplies are definitely adequate now, you can walk into Target or Costco and easily find sanitizers/mask/. Sometimes I think hospital organizations have a better outlook with suppliers, mainly because they already kind of know what future stock is for the future. Also, there still is that mass out reach to other countries where supplies are short, which does contribute to the shortages, like what Indonesia is experiencing right now. One good indicator you can tell if shortages are imminent, is if prices start increasing first, then the shortages usually follow where there’s no stock. That’s exactly what we saw with hand sanitizer and masks in the midst of March 2020.
 
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Supplies are definitely adequate now, you can walk into Target or Costco and easily find sanitizers/mask/. Sometimes I think hospital organizations have a better outlook with suppliers, mainly because they already kind of know what future stock is for the future. Also, there still is that mass out reach to other countries where supplies are short, which does contribute to the shortages, like what Indonesia is experiencing right now. One good indicator you can tell if shortages are imminent, is if prices start increasing first, then the shortages usually follow where there’s no stock. That’s exactly what we saw with hand sanitizer and masks in the midst of March 2020.

Supplies are being discounted in my area.

Went to the Post Office. There was a sign on the door that said Masks Recommended so I went back to my car to put one on. The employees were wearing masks and about 80% of the customers as well. I guess that's a good way to encourage masks without someone creating a scene.
 
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I do think we will see a "booster" shot, but it really depends on how virulent are the future strains. Pfizer/BioNTech is working on one, and I believe Moderna and AstraZeneca are working on one, too. Novavax will likely check to make sure their new vaccine works against the Delta and Lambda strains before its likely EUA in early fall 2021.
 
I do think we will see a "booster" shot, but it really depends on how virulent are the future strains. Pfizer/BioNTech is working on one, and I believe Moderna and AstraZeneca are working on one, too. Novavax will likely check to make sure their new vaccine works against the Delta and Lambda strains before its likely EUA in early fall 2021.

Public health officials, not pharmaceutical executives, will be making the final call on when and whether booster shots will be needed. Pfizer and other manufacturers will surely try to push for approvals; Moderna is already testing a Delta-variant-specific booster. Depending on how their conversations go with vaccine regulators at the Food and Drug Administration, companies may apply for a change to their emergency use authorizations (or to the vaccine license, if they secure one before applying to change their vaccine label to a three-dose one).


It seems to me that it's not a lot of work to develop the vaccines. The hard work is in clinical trials, manufacturing and distribution. So it's likely that the mRNA companies will develop the vaccines and go through the process if the need is there.
 
That would then mean that they had 3 jabs of a vaccine.. This would tell me that there wouldn't be any real issues or side effects of having both types of vaccines (formulas for those vaccines notwithstanding). This also tells me that for right now to combat COVID and the current mutations, we're looking at 3 jabs total.

BL.
How do you figure 3 jabs?
They took AZ as their 1st jab, then Moderna as their 2nd.
The concern for those that refuse getting the vaccine (besides their OWN death) is a mutation developing that defeats the current vaccines.
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How do you figure 3 jabs?
They took AZ as their 1st jab, then Moderna as their 2nd.

Wasn't AZ a one-shot vaccine along with J&J, while Moderna required two?

The concern for those that refuse getting the vaccine (besides their OWN death) is a mutation developing that defeats the current vaccines.
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Which was bound to happen anyway. Both COVID-19 and influenza are respiratory viruses in which both have the ability to mutate that a one-shot vaccine was not going to ever completely eradicate; hence why the flu shots all have boosters that are necessary from time to time to combat those mutations.

Yet those same people who refuse the vaccines were happy with taking the flue shot and its boosters to combat those mutations. Being okay with that method for one virus and not the other for that given reason brings in a double standard, leaving that person to argue with themselves.

BL.
 
Supplies are being discounted in my area.

Went to the Post Office. There was a sign on the door that said Masks Recommended so I went back to my car to put one on. The employees were wearing masks and about 80% of the customers as well. I guess that's a good way to encourage masks without someone creating a scene.
FYI, postal regulations vary depending on your state, some will have ‘requirement’ signs on their door and other ones will have ‘recommended’. Regardless, postal quarters can become cramped very quickly with people, I would suggest wearing one regardless with that type of business. I don’t even go to the post office anymore, mainly because of homeless people that walk into the public corridor area just to panhandle, but your area may vary.
 
FYI, postal regulations vary depending on your state, some will have ‘requirement’ signs on their door and other ones will have ‘recommended’. Regardless, postal quarters can become cramped very quickly with people, I would suggest wearing one regardless with that type of business. I don’t even go to the post office anymore, mainly because of homeless people that walk into the public corridor area just to panhandle, but your area may vary.

I'm not aware of any homeless in our town.
 
Yet those same people who refuse the vaccines were happy with taking the flue shot and its boosters to combat those mutations. Being okay with that method for one virus and not the other for that given reason brings in a double standard, leaving that person to argue with themselves.
In the U.S., I believe the percentage of adults who get a flu shot is in the mid-40s.
 
Yesterday, the UK, a highly vaccinated country, had 54,486 cases and 41 deaths. Indonesia, a country lagging in vaccinations, had 51,952 cases and 1,092 deaths. Amazing.
 
I think that the mask rate at the grocery store was 35% this morning. It did surprise me. Our low was 155 cases and we're at 138 cases. The case count in our area is still quite low though.
 
And here we go.

The US' biggest county is going back to mask mandates while indoors, vaccinated, unvaccinated, or otherwise.


I wouldn't be surprised if the trend continues, especially seeing how the Lambda variant has now been detected in the Las Vegas valley, with now having 900 cases in the past week.


BL.
The US biggest county is run by Id…., I mean low IQ powered individuals.
 
Yesterday, the UK, a highly vaccinated country, had 54,486 cases and 41 deaths. Indonesia, a country lagging in vaccinations, had 51,952 cases and 1,092 deaths. Amazing.
Direct death rate is only one part of the 3D puzzle though unfortunately. Hospitalisations in the UK are beginning to creep back up (and faster than the worst case government projections for our current level of vaccinations) and there's re-emerging concerns over long covid and organ damage (particularly to heart, kidneys and lungs) among younger unvaccinated/ semi-vaccinated people. That's even before we're talking about the gigantic opportunities opened up for the virus to mutate if infection rates creep up to the 200K/day level which now seems likely. All this is before all remaining restrictions on mask wearing and social distancing are eased tomorrow. I have a bad feeling we are going back into lockdown hard in a few weeks time.
 
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Direct death rate is only one part of the 3D puzzle though unfortunately. Hospitalisations in the UK are beginning to creep back up (and faster than the worst case government projections for our current level of vaccinations) and there's re-emerging concerns over long covid and organ damage (particularly to heart, kidneys and lungs) among younger unvaccinated/ semi-vaccinated people. That's even before we're talking about the gigantic opportunities opened up for the virus to mutate if infection rates creep up to the 200K/day level which now seems likely. All this is before all remaining restrictions on mask wearing and social distancing are eased tomorrow. I have a bad feeling we are going back into lockdown hard in a few weeks time.

Thats all fine as long as people get their boozy weekend in Skegness first!
 
US Surgeon General Murthy spoke and basically said that the concern is growing exponentially with the Delta variant quickly spreading, approximately 90 million US individuals are not vaccinated.


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Which contributes to why so many people get the flu.

We take active measures to avoid it.
My point, relating to the comment I quoted, is that it's likely that the same people who are not getting a COVID vaccine are many of the same people who don't get a flu shot.
 
Vaccination rates of selected NH cities and towns and median household income.

Manchester 44.2 $60,711
Nashua 49.4 $74,995
Hudson 45.8 $104,597
Merrimack 54.7 $107,232
Hollis 62 $135,565
Amherst 56.7 $138,994

Not a perfect correlation with income. My guess is that educational attainment is a factor. There are towns with much higher rates and much lower rates than these. A local newspaper made the data available which is nice. I wish that the state provided this information on their portal. The newspaper gets the raw data from the state.
 
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