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Could the iPad 2 Be Getting Light Peak?
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Didn't read all the posts but what is the chance of Apple adapting the LightPeak technology to replace their existing flat connector? If the new LightPeak cable can somehow fit into existing USB connectors using some convertor, would that be possible?
If the new MBP comes out on thursday with LightPeak, I don't see why the iPad 2 couldn't get the same connection. They must have something up their sleeve except a camera for the new iPad.
Just speculation though, will find out on Thursday I hope.
If the new MBP comes out on thursday with LightPeak, I don't see why the iPad 2 couldn't get the same connection. They must have something up their sleeve except a camera for the new iPad.
Just speculation though, will find out on Thursday I hope.
i never thought about it with the blu ray vs hd dvd thing. that sounds pretty right actually. however i do believe apple pump it out in huge quantities because they dont like usb 3.0 and there were already mentions from months ago that apple was backing lp. i think if the ipad gets lp we it will foreshadow ios 5 with perhaps an ipad file system. also it will be the new way that devices sync to their computer because of its speed.
but then you go into the whole what about the cloud syncing thing and this would also be the first time apple but something into their products before it was widely used ie. blu ray. so its kind of 50/50 imo. it would be nice for the future but how many devices will actually get this in 2011.
If this port is real, it's probably an IrDA port so that the iPad could act as the ultimate remote control for all of your AV equipment and for the Apple TV.
In the nearly year of use of my iPad, I can say with certainty I don't agree with you.
I happen to like that I don't need to manage a filesystem and backups are a sync away with the device.
What we need is better software interoperability with files that are loaded to the system via other software. I don't need to worry about another filesystem hiding files in directories and not getting backed up because files weren't in the right location.
Too many people are stuck on the filesystem thing. We need software to move away from these old archetypes.
In other words, I don't want your faster horse.
By the time they commercialize optical in LightPeak obviously it will have come down in price in order to facilitate mass market penetration and higher speeds up to 100gbps.
Obviously you don't understand the way computing is headed. iOS was DESIGNED that way for a reason and it isn't going to change, so don't hold your breath! Just sayin'.
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First I have to say I'm sadden by all the idiots on this forum who don't understand the concept of speculation and the difference between speculation and rumors. LightPeak is something that is very rational to speculate about at this time. This especially considering that Intel has said it will debut in the first half of 2011.
The question then becomes: is the tech there to implement in a extreme portable like the iPad. I have to say that it is highly questionable because my original understanding is that the low power parts would follow the standard parts by about six months. Of course things change and further this is an ideal port for mobile devices like laptops.
My biggest fear right now is that they will deliver a copper solution instead of an optical one. The problem with copper would be the long term development of the high speed standard. Optical also has issues as I have serious reservations about their ability to do a reliable connector. Quality optical connections are done with high precision and I don't see this happening in a cheap connector.
Now what do I believe? Well I'm not sure, personally I want a host type USB port on iPad2. That of course implies the ability to install drivers. I also want an SD slot too so I'm likely to be disappointed.
ARN
First I have to say I'm sadden by all the idiots on this forum who don't understand the concept of speculation and the difference between speculation and rumors. LightPeak is something that is very rational to speculate about at this time. This especially considering that Intel has said it will debut in the first half of 2011.
The question then becomes: is the tech there to implement in a extreme portable like the iPad. I have to say that it is highly questionable because my original understanding is that the low power parts would follow the standard parts by about six months. Of course things change and further this is an ideal port for mobile devices like laptops.
My biggest fear right now is that they will deliver a copper solution instead of an optical one. The problem with copper would be the long term development of the high speed standard. Optical also has issues as I have serious reservations about their ability to do a reliable connector. Quality optical connections are done with high precision and I don't see this happening in a cheap connector.
Now what do I believe? Well I'm not sure, personally I want a host type USB port on iPad2. That of course implies the ability to install drivers. I also want an SD slot too so I'm likely to be disappointed.
But that doesn't legitimize a premature switch to optical cabling "sooner rather than later" before there's any use for it. Copper is cheap, reliable, and just as fast over short distances (take a look at the emerging 10gbE standards, copper is king). Unless you have a need for a 100m extension cord on your mouse, there's no benefit to fiber.
As for 100gbps, you've got to have something you can actually read/write to first...
Uh, USB? Firewire 400/800? Apple had USB practically before there was anything to connect to it! We all had to go buy usb to parallel & serial adapters to hook up our mice and keyboards and drives, etc. They also ditched the floppy drive at the same time. And of course they led the firewire revolution.
Seems like a very strange place to put any kind of port, be it USB, LightPeak or MiniDisplayPort. Why would anyone want cables dangling from TOP CENTER?
This fear has been more or less eliminated in the latest generation of 10gbE equipment which uses copper OR fiber seamlessly via SFP+ connectors.
Need a cheap, short-range patch? Skip the uber-expensive transceivers and use a SFP+ direct-connect copper cable that is cheap and rock-solid for runs under ~7 meters. Need a longer run? Pony up for the SR or LR transceivers, pop them into the same SFP+ slots, and patch with multi-mode fiber. Done. Same technology, same speeds, same physical hardware. Use transceivers where you need them and skip them where you don't.
I would expect an eventual LP optical implementation to do exactly the same thing.
On the other hand, a PERFECT location for an IR transmitter...
Purely "speculation" here, but hey...
Haters?
Will arn apologise to the "haters" (i.e. someone with a different opinion??) if there is no light peak in iPad2?? I think not!
I've not seen Arn make a comment that was anything but polite and respectful, even when disagreeing with someone. You can't say the same for all the other 'experts' here. Just saying.
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An awesome observation. Way to piece it all together! Sounds compelling to me. Hmmm new mbp connected to ipad2?
An awesome observation. Way to piece it all together! Sounds compelling to me. Hmmm new mbp connected to ipad2?
sorry, i was only like 8 years old when usb 1.0 came out. i didnt know. but most of the time now they wait to catch ground. they havent added blu ray, usb 3.0, and they just added hdmi to the mac mini last year and adding it to the ipad before any computer seems unlikely. i would think they would wait until most of their computers have it first. and by no means am i saying i wouldnt want ipad to get this because i am 110% for this. i plan on getting ipad 2 and dont plan on getting another until at least ipad 4 but i do plan on getting a light peak to express card adaptor if they come out with that because i cant buy a laptop for at least another 6 years.
Wait. How do they know that isn't an ipad 3 case?
And when are they going to fix the itunes icon?
And when are they going to fix the itunes icon?
No, you have that backwards. They were among the first to commercially embrace USB, firewire, the PowerPC processor, the modern laptop form factor, the GUI, cheap floppy drives, the mouse, the laser printer, a couple generations of Intel cpus, and much more. They have embraced SSD's in a way that most other manufacturers haven't. They have blazed new trails in tablets and have shown everyone what a "netbook" should have been with the Air. They may be the first out of the box with light peak. They've done amazing things with multitouch, even on the desktop. On the other hand they are very late with (or more likely will never embrace) some things, like BluRay and USB3. I hardly think it's fair to say that "most of the time now they wait to catch ground" based on a couple of examples.