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Light Peak? For what? To fill up all those GB's that the iPad doesn't have?

Are there any peripherals that you'd use with an iPad that is bottlenecked by the current gen USB?
 
If it is Light Peak, HDMI, Display Port, etc, I don't understand why Apple would put in on the top and have the dock connector on the bottom. I'd figure Apple would put all connectors together. Can't wait for Apple to announce a conference!
 
We will know which one will be on the iPad, Light Peak, USB 3.0, or standard multi-pin connector, this coming Thursday when Apple updates the MacBook Pro line. If the new MBPs carry Light Peak ports then it will be on the iPad (overkill I say). If it is USB 3.0, then it will be that etc.

In my opinion, Apple should scrap the multi-pin dock connector, and go straight to using wireless sync (the awesome 7Gbps WiGig was often mentioned as a possible Apple feature), and adopt the Mag Safe power connector across all Macs & iDevices. I also hear Apple is combining power & data in a single cable. They could look into this. Western Digital actually sells a device called WD Livewire that carry data from one wall socket to another.
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No, you have that backwards. They were among the first to commercially embrace USB, firewire, the PowerPC processor, the modern laptop form factor, the GUI, cheap floppy drives, the mouse, the laser printer, a couple generations of Intel cpus, and much more. They have embraced SSD's in a way that most other manufacturers haven't. They have blazed new trails in tablets and have shown everyone what a "netbook" should have been with the Air. They may be the first out of the box with light peak. They've done amazing things with multitouch, even on the desktop. On the other hand they are very late with (or more likely will never embrace) some things, like BluRay and USB3. I hardly think it's fair to say that "most of the time now they wait to catch ground" based on a couple of examples.

i kind of consider the things you listed being innovative on what is already out there. but i can see how they also can be them using them first when they are apple's design. i still really hope this is lightpeak but i still cant get that 50/50 out of my brain. i guess a little time will tell :)
 
All this new stuff is going on apple should just have an event, or keynote already it's driving me crazy lol

Me too!@ Well, apple is into making its own batteries, chip, etc. Who knows what apple will do with the A5 chip, liquid metal, etc. LP is cool, but I don't see how it can be used with the iPad. Can they use LP cable inside the iPad and improve the interconnections (what exactly, don't know). Maybe we can charge the iPad in 30 minutes versus 2 hours?
 
I'm sick of this ridiculous ******** that's been getting published recently by MacRumors. I should have deleted you from my RSS reader months ago.

At least new "news" keeps the traffic on the site, keeping the money coming in from Ads, hey? ;)



really? :confused: This place should be renamed MacSpeculations.com

It's also not an interesting topic; there's nothing but some 3rd party case to go with right now... can we have MBP rumours please?

Geez guys have some freaking respect. You do realize you are talking **** to Arn aka MacRumors Creator right? This is a rumors site- either agree or disagree- argue all you want. But what is the point of attacking the people that keep this site going with RUMORS? Go somewhere else if you want facts (apple.com?)

In regards to the RUMOR- I'm liking the suggestions for IR transmitter. The size and placement is right. Functionally, it kind of makes sense.
 
i wish there was a way to only get ipad 2 rumors from this site because that's all i care about apple-wise until it comes out.
 
Makes sense in so many ways...
  • 1. 40 million potential LP customers after one year
  • 2. Solves the Chicken/Egg issue that face all new standards
  • 3. Begins to resolve the port clutter issue that has plagued computers for 30 years
  • 4. One port for ALL I/O (audio, video, storage, sync)
 
Makes sense in so many ways...
  • 1. 40 million potential LP customers after one year
  • 2. Solves the Chicken/Egg issue that face all new standards
  • 3. Begins to resolve the port clutter issue that has plagued computers for 30 years
  • 4. One port for ALL I/O (audio, video, storage, sync)

Sure is a crying shame that reality gets in the way of all those perfectly sensible suggestions.

Curious how this whole "one port to rule them all" idea actually works though. What does this do to correct "port clutter" on a mobile device? What if I want to use a peripheral AND output audio at the same time? Or any two devices at the same time for that matter? Guess I need to carry around a hub or collection of dongles? Isn't that the solution we already have?
 
If I were a case manufacturer right now I would release a prototype with a bizarre cutout that looked like a slot a dvd could slide into. Or better yet, a space invader shaped cutout!
 
Sure is a crying shame that reality gets in the way of all those perfectly sensible suggestions.

Curious how this whole "one port to rule them all" idea actually works though. What does this do to correct "port clutter" on a mobile device? What if I want to use a peripheral AND output audio at the same time? Or any two devices at the same time for that matter? Guess I need to carry around a hub or collection of dongles? Isn't that the solution we already have?

Yeah, seriously. If I had a nickel for every time I charged my phone while listening to music, I'd be rich.

But then again, if I had a nickel for every time I heard that saying... well, that's another story.
 
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Can these iPad rumors get any more ridiculous?

My guess is that it can and will be more ridiculous. If history is any indication.
 
It's a Port? UniBody Case?

For Plugging something into it or beaming out something... :D

But here's a thought...
iPad 1... WiFi was all-aluminum case, 3G had a plastic panel at the top...

So iPad 2.. new form factor... this port/opening/sensor/projection space in the top of case...

If iPad 2 possibly becomes uni-body in form... 3G and WiFi same case...

This input/output has some implications towards that overall design.
 
But that doesn't legitimize a premature switch to optical cabling "sooner rather than later" before there's any use for it. Copper is cheap, reliable, and just as fast over short distances (take a look at the emerging 10gbE standards, copper is king). Unless you have a need for a 100m extension cord on your mouse, there's no benefit to fiber.

As for 100gbps, you've got to have something you can actually read/write to first...

As far as premature goes, you can interpret my "sooner rather than later" comment however you want. I simply want the tech to keep innovating and progressing at a rapid pace! Apple has taken many cutting edge technologies that were not in mass production and made them available to the masses at affordable prices, Multi-Touch displays for example.

It is just frustrating to know that the entire logic behind LightPeak was to be optical when what we are getting right now is a watered down former version of itself. Yes it still has great benefits, just saying.

Also copper may be cheaper than optical but it is hardly a cheap resource. In fact many researchers are currently looking for ways to move electronics away from it due to cost.

I mean if we really wanna cut to the chase forget all these, and lets just get everything wireless. That is what we all REALLY want! I am still skeptical though that so much in the air isn't having any effect on our health whatsoever. Time will tell, but I think it is naive to think NOTHING is being impacted.

No, you have that backwards. They were among the first to commercially embrace USB, firewire, the PowerPC processor, the modern laptop form factor, the GUI, cheap floppy drives, the mouse, the laser printer, a couple generations of Intel cpus, and much more. They have embraced SSD's in a way that most other manufacturers haven't. They have blazed new trails in tablets and have shown everyone what a "netbook" should have been with the Air. They may be the first out of the box with light peak. They've done amazing things with multitouch, even on the desktop. On the other hand they are very late with (or more likely will never embrace) some things, like BluRay and USB3. I hardly think it's fair to say that "most of the time now they wait to catch ground" based on a couple of examples.

Exactly! And BluRay and USB3 have been strategic decisions, but Apple just being late to a party. Same thing with Flash on iDevices. It is not late, it is a logical, well thought out, strategy, and a good one at that! How can someone complain with all examples you listed above, and the examples I listed above is Apple not being happy with something, so they go out and invent something even better and innovate while everyone else just eats what they are fed. People have such clouded thinking. We are accused of being fanboys or blind followers, yet Apple haters are just as ignorant and spit out what they are fed even more! I don't follow anything blindly in my life. I seek my own knowledge and come to my own conclusions. It just so happens that Steve Jobs actually is a very brilliant person and I agree with him a lot, but not all the time. The media always tried to twist Apple related news into something it is not.
 
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Sure is a crying shame that reality gets in the way of all those perfectly sensible suggestions.

Curious how this whole "one port to rule them all" idea actually works though. What does this do to correct "port clutter" on a mobile device?

I said on computers over the past 30 years, not on mobile devices. However, its happening on mobile devices, insofar as all the dongles / break out boxes that are becoming increasingly common.

What if I want to use a peripheral AND output audio at the same time? Or any two devices at the same time for that matter? Guess I need to carry around a hub or collection of dongles? Isn't that the solution we already have?

What, never heard of the Daisy Chain concept? This is built into the LP standard. Let me give you an example, you want to connect to three devices at the same time. Rather than use a hub, you connect the iPad to Device A, Device A connects to Device B, and Device B connects to Device C. The three devices for a chain of sorts, hence the term Daisy Chain. Same way FW is done.

Very simple, no dongles, no adapters, no hubs.
 
Why has no-one suggested the blindingly obvious.

If that's a hole for something, it's probably a rear flash for the camera.

Who would ever think you would but a socket for a plug sticking out the back? that would be stupid.

Also a Infa Red port would be on the top edge not that back.

So if that's a genuine hole, I'd say Flash is the most obvious.
 
Why has no-one suggested the blindingly obvious.

If that's a hole for something, it's probably a rear flash for the camera.

Who would ever think you would but a socket for a plug sticking out the back? that would be stupid.

Also a Infa Red port would be on the top edge not that back.

So if that's a genuine hole, I'd say Flash is the most obvious.

that mystery port that is circled is too far away for it to be a camera flash, look at the iPhone 4, or any other phone with a camera, the flash is next to the camera lens, which you can see on that case is to the top right.... duh!
 
It could be:

1. A bigger, better microphone

2. An infrared sensor (although that seems like a step backwards)

3. Mini display-port or mini hdmi (-although wireless seems to be the future)

4. USB port of some kind (most likely) would open the door to a whole world of peripherals.

5. Wrong case design
 
Looks like a mini usb plug. Doesn't Europe now require that all portable device have this as a charger? I read that somewhere either on engadget or macrumors. I doubt it's light peak.
 
Looks like a mini usb plug. Doesn't Europe now require that all portable device have this as a charger? I read that somewhere either on engadget or macrumors. I doubt it's light peak.

Actually the ruling allows that you can have an adapter to miniUSB included with the device, so apple can keep the existing dock connector and just bundle the adapter with the device.
 
I thought one of the advantages of the LightPeak port was that it would also read USB devices. Therefore one port would do both and look a lot like USB. Does anyone else recall this from the initial report last year?
 
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