You better wash your mouth if you don't realize that I am an Italian American that lived his first 23 years of life in Italy, and is an Italian and American citizen.
Ancient laws and Tribes have nothing to do with this thread, please stay on topic.
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Court Rules Police Can Force Users to Unlock iPhones With Fingerprints, But Not Passcodes
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You better wash your mouth if you don't realize that I am an Italian American that lived his first 23 years of life in Italy, and is an Italian and American citizen.
Ancient laws and Tribes have nothing to do with this thread, please stay on topic.
Good idea, but it should only wipe the touch id memory so that a passcode is needed for unlocking the device.
Not EVERY arrest is of a guilty person. Why not take the phone, get a search warrant to see contents of phone and book it into evidence if they have probable cause based on something directly related to the contents of the phone? It's like anything else; if a suspect bonds out of jail what's to prevent them from wiping down their car, burning evidence in their fireplace, etc?
Getting access to phone contents should follow the law like anything else. Getting the accused to use the correct finger finger to unlock it would usually fail though. If Apple ever increases the number of fingerprints it will store to 10, I'll have to make sure I use a toe or my dog's paw for the 10th one. I don't plan on doing any crimes but I want to control who sees my phone data.
They do already in some local governments, under certain conditions. It's not that common, but I've seen it enforced.
"Uhh dispatcher, the police are trying to force me to unlock my phone. Send help!"
But yes, I think that would be an ideal setting for the feature.
The police cannot force you to erase anything from your phone.
That is a civil rights violation and the officer can be prosecuted for destruction of evidence.
Several federal judges on the First Circuit Court of Appeals have already made that abundantly clear back in May of this year.
It is perfectly legal to record police officers unless doing so interferes with their ability to perform their job. (Basically stay out of their way)
Even still, they can only instruct you to stop recording. They have no legal authority to force you to erase what has already been recorded. Only a judge can make that determination.
Any police officer telling you otherwise is a liar.
I don't care about your origins. You went off topic offending my country... What you are calling ancient laws, we in Europe call HISTORY, and it's the basis for any modern law.
Are you sure about this, do you have a source?
My understanding is its only under the terrorism act the police have the right to search phones if they believe the phone if being used for terrorist activity. Even then if you say you forgot the password how can a court prove beyond all reasonable doubt you are lying and send you to prison for it?
The police have the right to investigate anything that may be connected to the alleged crime. But if someone is arrested for drunk and disorderly its difficult to see what grounds the police have to search the contents of that persons phone as the phone played no part in the alleged crime.
They can't force you to unlock your phone if you get searched under stop and search but they can if you get searched under the terrorism act.
Being in media related employment I had a number of associates tell me on different occasions about being forced to hand over video cameras at ground zero (WTC after 9/11 attacks) to check for any footage of the location and being forced to erase footage under threat of arrest if they didn't comply.
I have not offended a country, nor history. You went off discussing tribes and ancient laws.
I said that in Italy you're used to see wiretaps on newspapers. It's a fact. It happened to Berlusconi as it happened to others during the scandalo intercettazioni.
The meaning, which apparently you didn't get, is that you have a different sensibility on the subject, which is aggravated by the differences in law and its application. US law is fundamentally different than Italian law and by saying that the fact that I have something to hide is proof of something wrong is an attack (or an insult) to the basics of the US system.
Apple creates new Siri command.
"Siri, initiate auto destruct sequence now".
Not a bad idea!
If forced to use Touch ID one could press and hold Touch ID until Siri kicks in and speak the secret word to initiate an auto erase.
But what if Siri says, " I'm afraid I can't do that Dave".
They should have let themselves be arrested.
Police officers do not have the authority to tell you to destroy evidence.
Only a judge can make that determination.
Sounds like the cops were probably trying to prevent gruesome images from being reported, and while noble, they simply do not have the power to make that call.
There are a lot of comments from people here who say that they have nothing illegal on their phones, that they have nothing to hide.
Well consider this: what about all the names and contact data you have in your address book of friends, family, and work associates, employer, etc.? Depending on circumstances your loved ones may suddenly become persons of interest to the police. I would be more than a little miffed if police came snooping around because some nitwit friend or relative had been careless about my personal info.
It seems that many in the Apple community, at least as represented in the MacRumors forum, are hostile to our constitutional right to privacy. Or they are poor American citizens with little understanding of what makes America different. These people post thoughtless, silly opinions here.
"If you think twice you just might be the genius in your family." - Mike Murdock
"Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey" - The Beatles
Well consider this: what about all the names and contact data you have in your address book of friends, family, and work associates, employer, etc.? Depending on circumstances your loved ones may suddenly become persons of interest to the police. I would be more than a little miffed if police came snooping around because some nitwit friend or relative had been careless about my personal info.
It seems that many in the Apple community, at least as represented in the MacRumors forum, are hostile to our constitutional right to privacy. Or they are poor American citizens with little understanding of what makes America different. These people post thoughtless, silly opinions here.
"If you think twice you just might be the genius in your family." - Mike Murdock
"Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey" - The Beatles
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If I only had a dollar for every time I have heard that naive fool of a statement " I have nothing to hide."
It has nothing to do with what you have to hide.
This is about what THEY have to hide. And what THEY are trying to TAKE from you and all of us.
Do you believe that the Jews in Hitler's Germany had anything to hide? No, they did not. Did negros in 1842 America have anything to hide? No. Did intellectuals in Mao's purge have anything to hide? No. They were simply the target by a bunch of tyrants who had plenty to hide. These tyrants hid their true intentions until they had enough power to take what they wanted by force.
When the People massively yield to small tyranny, they inevitably end up with BIG tyranny. Tyrants always work their way into government, and they always want more power. This creeping power grab can only happen if citizens are NAIVE about the nature of rulers and power mongers.
Again: WAKE UP! Right now, tyranny is moving ahead at a rapid pace, and soon it will be too late to stop it. With current and future technology in the hands of tyrants, they may successfully repress freedom for a thousand years.
It has nothing to do with what you have to hide.
This is about what THEY have to hide. And what THEY are trying to TAKE from you and all of us.
Do you believe that the Jews in Hitler's Germany had anything to hide? No, they did not. Did negros in 1842 America have anything to hide? No. Did intellectuals in Mao's purge have anything to hide? No. They were simply the target by a bunch of tyrants who had plenty to hide. These tyrants hid their true intentions until they had enough power to take what they wanted by force.
When the People massively yield to small tyranny, they inevitably end up with BIG tyranny. Tyrants always work their way into government, and they always want more power. This creeping power grab can only happen if citizens are NAIVE about the nature of rulers and power mongers.
Again: WAKE UP! Right now, tyranny is moving ahead at a rapid pace, and soon it will be too late to stop it. With current and future technology in the hands of tyrants, they may successfully repress freedom for a thousand years.
Yes and no. It doesn't look for "life", it scans for layers as well as the print itself.
You need to make a quality replica of the fingerprint.
It has been "hacked" already with fake fingers.
Just not a practical method.
https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2014/09/23/iphone-6-touchid-hack/
Not under stop and search laws but if you are arrested you can be compelled to give up any encryption passwords under RIPA . This was passed on the basis of it being to combat terrorism but if you have a look at the site it has far wider coverage than terrorism: https://www.gov.uk/surveillance-and-counter-terrorism#overview
People have been jailed for refusing to give up passwords
LOL. I am not bright enough to follow these legal eagles.
As for TouchId used for Applepay but not unlocking, yes you can do that. Settings-TouchId- then disable phone unlock.