Coverage of Apple's iPhone 4 Press Conference

[g30hd3]

PEOPLE STOP COMPLAINING!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR IPHONE TAKE IT BACK AND GO ELSEWHERE, THEY ARE GIVNG YOU A FREE CASE AND YOUR STILL NOT HAPPY!! I BET ALL THE PEOPLE ON HERE WHO ARE MOANING B*****S ARE STILL KEEPING THERE IPHONE

THERES MORE TO LIFE THAN MOANING, ITS JUST A PHONE, GO GET C***BERRY IF THE IPHONE IS THAT BAD!!!!!!!

OMG! TYPING IN CAPS AND BOLD REALLY DOES MAKE ME MORE IMPORTANT AND BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE!

 

[CFreymarc]

More accurately:

They didn't admit the issue, they claimed that some people might have an issue.

Didn't address the issue with facts and figures, they simply claim that other phones are the same in terms of "bars" (and got the columns mixed up). If all phones are the same, why does only the iPhone 4 have this issue?

Some waffle about their PhD scientists and engineers and $100 million test chambers.

They then claimed that hardly anyone complained or returned their phone. Why bother complaining when Apple already know, and why return it when you really like the phone and just want it to work?

Offered a case. That isn't a solution, it's a bodge. A solution is replacing or repairing the phone to make it work like it should. Don't forget, though, that there isn't an antenna issue. We're just offering the case for those who think they might have an issue.

End of line.

You want perfection? Stay on campus. I'll make customers happy and cash in. We'll see if your school gets defunded next administration and you end up in fast food. As least then you will be serving public what they want instead of what you want to give them.

 

[Popeye206]

Is it just me???

But who here does not have or plan on having a case of some sort for their iPhone4?

I can't imagine not having some sort of case? I've had one for ever phone I've owned... especially my iPhones to protect them.

I think the complainer here are just here to stir up trouble. I wish they'd go play somewhere else... this whole thing is so stupid.

Bottom line... if you don't like it... return it or don't buy it. Otherwise... enjoy and be happy.

 

[Swiss Miss]

Holy black magic! Since this press conference, every time I do the "death grip" my bars go UP instead of down!

 

[startracer]

I really don't see the problem here.

Maybe I'm more mature than most on here (which wouldn't be hard being honest), but Steve has demonstrated that other smartphones by other manufacturers have this issue if you grip them in a way that crushes the signal.

This is not unique to the iPhone 4. That's the first thing. That's the facts of the matter. Go ahead and moan, bitch, complain, cry, take a tantrum, stamp your feet, whatever ... hell, return your phone.

The next thing is that people need to accept that this issue isn't affecting every, single user.

Third, this whole thing HAS been blown out of proportion. As Steve said, it's like "X marks the point". The second it was pointed out you could touch it and make something happen, everyone began trying it.

I still don't know anyone who makes calls holding the phone like that. Deep within your palm, the pad of your thumb keeps the phone away from your face. While browsing the web, as a right handed person, I hold the phone in my left hand in the "death grip", so to use my right hand to navigate the device. While about about in a decent area where signal is strong, there's no drop in bars.

Sky News are being positive about this, bloke from Stuff magazine is on saying the iPhone is a superb device, the Sky presenter is trying to make the bars drop LIVE on television, and they won't. And that's inside a studio.

People will no now doubt quote me, attempt to ridicule me, and I hope you have fun venting, I won't be watching ...

WeegieMac has left the building.

Sanest thing i heard in here all day..

 

[BobVB]

like loads of people have been saying, if your not happy with the phone send it back for a refund!

AT&T customers never could get a full refund and most of the first day orders are now past their return date. Quit acting like everyone got their iPhone's from 

 

[Salacion]

"Maybe Eminem will come out with a band-aid that goes over the corner and everyone will want that."

Wait what? He said that? No...

 

[Hugo Maximus]

I'm weirdly excited about this. I'm thrilled something is going on today.

It's quiet, wet and rainy here. Anything exciting is welcome.

You need to get laid.

 

[AtlasBoy]

I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?!!

OH SNAP!

And I can't get my ip4 to do it. What's your point?

 

[jsf8x]

Steve Jobs is the MAN!

 

[JPark]

10:41AM Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
Steve: You may not see it in certain areas.

Translation: You will only see dropped bars on other phones in our $100million test chamber where we turned the signal strength all the way down for testing the other phones...

What a tool this guy is. Overall I like Apple products but I'd like to punchasize his face!

Keep in mind that many people couldn't demonstrate a signal loss on iPhone 4 either. It's all about how strong the signal is wherever you are.

 

[mlts22]

My question: Apple isn't shipping any new iPhones until August? Ugh. This really sucks for people who have been stuck on the iWaitingLists at the Apple stores since two weeks ago.

 

[mcnicks]

Good to know Eminem is working on a fix, too.

 

[Yebot]

WOW, what a bunch of BS coming out of his mouth. I love the part when he said that they KNEW of the problem, but didn't think it would be a big deal...WTF are you stupid? If there is a potential issue, there WILL be people that have issues. That right there should tell you that you should do something about it before you sell it...why?? well NONE of the other iphones EVER had or has the problems that the iphone 4 has now. PERIOD. why in the *** would you make a product knowing that there will be some kind of issues with atleast SOME people!!! I don't care if its .55% or not!!! Like he said thats not good enough for them and it shouldn't! Ok, you get a case, but I have read reports that it dosn't help, and for christ sake....why should you have to have a case on it when you didn't on any of your other iphones??? I love the iphone and can't wait to buy one, awaiting native service here in WY that is coming soon, but come on apple...do the right thing!

Don't get so worked up my friend.

You don't even have an iPhone 4 yet. The overwhelming majority of iPhone 4 owners do not have reception problems. Odds are, neither will you.

 

[PerfSeeker]

LOL @ the Droid X burn by Steve:

"You could make a really big smartphone that doesn’t have this problem — some of these guys are making Hummers now — so big you can’t get your hand around it. But no one’s going to buy that."

The Droid X is already sold out!

 

[adztaylor]

Q: Well it's interesting, there aren't any cases out there, and it's hard to get cases now. If the third party case buyers can produce a receipt, why not give them one?
Steve: It's really simple, if we tell people what our next product is, they stop buying our current products. Sometimes websites buy stolen property and they get out there... and case makers have a history of showing off their new cases for our new products. The case vendors haven't had a history of helping to keep our work under wraps.

Not sure what to make of that answer...

 

[.:ryan:.]

..."Sometimes blogs will buy a stolen prototype and put them online, and we don't particularly like that."

 

[spyda]

So, will I receive a refund AND free ****** case? Or just the refund?

 

[Harpy007]

"We started getting reports about issues with the antenna system, and, the problems they were saying... Gizmodo put their video on the web, touching the corner, and people were seeing a large drop in bars."

"Sometimes websites buy stolen property and they get out there... "

Go Steve !

 

[HLdan]

I don't think anyone's ignoring that, but we're pointing out significant issues with what's being said -

1) The number of people who are calling Applecare is utterly irrelevant. I've not, because there's no point. I know Applecare can't do anything. It's either software or recall, either way it has to get fixed by Apple centrally. Only a tiny fraction of users would call Applecare even if every iPhone 4 was covered in razorblades.

2) The number of returns are irrelevant, given people are waiting for said press conference.

3) The stat on dropping calls, given people will have figured out temporary fixes such as holding the phone in an uncomfortable way or cases or duct tape, is actually very damning indeed.

The way it's presented is not making me feel like Apple values me as a customer. It's making me think they'll make up any old **** that they know is unrepresentative to try and get better headlines.

I don't think the thing has been blown out of proportion at all, and I think Apple's attitude given the call drop numbers that it required such press attention to get them to hold this press conference stinks.

Phazer

What did you want? Would you have preferred for SJ to get up on stage and say, "Okay, we screwed up, we are cash grabbing company that purposely sold our customers a jacked up iPhone 4 and the phone sucks and we suck and our customers deserve to call us the crappiest company in history and bottom line is, we just don't know how to make a good phone".

Honestly, is that what you wanted? Call me an Apple apologist all you want buddy, but you have to remember that we're dealing with humans and I'm sure if you were the head of company as big as Apple you would be very careful on what you say. What I wrote above probably would've satisfied most of the haters here on MR because they love misery and seeing Apple fail as much as some of the Apple lovers do, but in terms of investors, they don't need to hear Apple grovel.
They issued a free bumper, they offered refunds to anyone who already bought one, they're offering a refund of the iPhone 4 to anyone with no restocking fee. To me that sounds like a company that's trying to do the right thing but good ole, unforgiving, inhuman and constantly ranting MR just can't accept anything.

 

[oldwatery]

Brilliant move by Steve and Apple.
What other company would go public with a thing like this?
And to all the continuing whiners.
They have offered you a free fix or your money back.
Are you all so desperate for attention or the need to complain that you can't get off your bitching butts and enjoy the day?
IT'S A PHONE.
Don't like it...TAKE IT BACK.
Jeeeeeeez

 

[Scuba'sIphone4]

pay attention :

Sorry nerd.

 

[shakenmartini]

Not a single person I know has the iPhone death grip issue among the 20 or so people I know that have launch day models.

If people have the issue, the solution has been presented: put a case on the phone, or return it if you don't like.

Either way, stop bitching. It's annoying to listen to grown adults whine about not being able to use a phone without an "ugly case!!!!111!!!!"

Go get a droid if you don't like the iPhone. No one is forcing you to be here.

Yup, thanks whiners! I just got me a free bumper.

I know about 30-40 people with an iPhone 4, many are launch day phones.

Only one had a reception issue and this was due to a SIM card reading error.

Went to the apple store and they handed him a new one, problem solved.

One of my friends freaked out about all the reports and returned his and went back to a 3Gs. He also has been through at least 6 3Gs iPhones due to light leaks, and other fussiness. He is kind of neurotic and psycho about his electronics.

Oh BTW, did anyone catch that, 3 million phones! No wonder you can't walk into an apple store and buy one. That is freaking phenomenal that Apple sold more iPhone 4's in 22 days than other handset makers will EVER sell of their competing devices.

 

[SBlue1]

I was pretty skeptical about the claim that "all smartphones have this problem", so I decided to test out my company-issued Blackberry.

I just got curious and tried it with my Samsung SGH 700. It's not even an smartphone, but when I hold it tight from the side in a certain way it goes from 5 bars (maximum) down to 3 bars. I never payed attention to that, cause Vodafone has a strong net here, but I can imageine what may happen when you are in a low reception area.

 

[wovel]

Not saying that. Many 'fanboys' are defending Apple for just as stupid of reasons. There are plenty of us neutral people on here who see this issue for what it is: An overblown media cluster-f**k making a mountain out of a molehill.

You do realize that all of those people overblowing the problem on here have now labeled you a fan boy...