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Bell's palsy is a recognized side effect of the vaccines. (I say this as a fully vaxxed person in the medical industry...) One of my best friends got it--thought he was having a stroke. It was J&J so no second shot, but he will get a booster if it is offered. Every case I have heard of it was strictly temporary.

This was in the news recently here and as of last month, there is no direct link to suggest the covid-19 vaccine is any more likely to cause Bell’s palsy when compared to any other viral vaccine. It may be a side effect, but it is a side effect from any vaccine or medicine. The risk of Bell’s palsy is certainly not a legitimate reason to avoid the covid vaccine unless the individual is against having any other form of immunisation or antibiotic. Bell’s palsy is often temporary as you say and I’ve known friends have it after smoking too much cannabis or after feeling particularly run down.
 
I just got my booster and flu shot at the same time last Tuesday. I’m in my early 30’s but work in healthcare and my hospital requires both. I was one of the first to receive the vaccine back in December and felt guilty then being at low risk for COVID complications/death versus more vulnerable populations. Once again I feel bad that there are others in the world who are at much higher risk than me but do not have access to the vaccine. That said, I’m glad the CDC advised boosters only for higher risk populations vs. the original White House plan to give everyone boosters. The latter plan isn’t well supported by evidence and ignores the fact there is still much of the world that isn’t vaccinated to begin with.

Anyways, similar to my first two COVID vaccines, I had some injection site pain and felt pretty tired for the rest of the day.


Flu shots or COVID-19 boosters: which should you get first?
Experts say the order doesn’t matter, and getting them both at once is preferred
I got my flu shot and COVID booster 2 weeks apart just to be on the safe side. I didn't really have a choice anyway because the boosters weren't approved yet when I got the flu shot, but I would've waited anyway.

It’s generally recommended that higher risk people (older, immunocompromised, etc) get their flu shot around the end of October because flu vaccine immunity wanes, especially in these populations, and doesn’t necessarily last the entire flu season. By getting vaccinated at the end of the October, immunity will be greatest during the period of the peak flu season where risk is greatest.

I haven’t read any guidance specifically preferring getting both the flu vaccine and COVID booster at the same, however I can see these being informally recommended to ensure people actually end up getting both. It’s easier for people to get both shots at once, which means a greater chance of compliance.

Aside from getting optimal timing for the flu vaccine as mentioned earlier in my post, there is no reason not to get both vaccines at once. When the COVID vaccine was first authorized it t was recommended not to have it administered if you had received another vaccine within two weeks prior. This was merely a precaution due to a lack of data and the guideline has since been removed. (Medically speaking, it’s highly unlikely an interaction between this vaccine and others would ever be a problem).

Each vaccine alone obviously may cause some side effects (injection site pain, muscle aches, headache, fatigue, etc), but that doesn’t necessarily mean such symptoms will be twice as bad. The side effects may be the same taking both at the same time as they would be individually, meaning you have to deal with them twice. And there is actually some evidence to support that idea.

There has long been this mythical idea of “vaccine overload” or “immunity overload” where giving too many vaccines at the same time makes vaccines less effective or puts the individual at risk for side effects or permanent health issues. This often is brought up with the anti-vaxx crowd in reference to childhood vaccinations. This idea has been researched extensively and there is no evidence to support it.

On a similar note, keep in mind it’s not uncommon for people to receive multiple vaccines at once. It’s also not uncommon for multiple vaccines to be grouped into one vaccine product- for example the MMR vaccine combines measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines (and we also now have MMRV, which also includes varicella aka chickenpox).

You may also notice your annual flu shot includes the term “trivalent” or “quadrivalent” in its the name (Tri meaning 3, Quadri meaning 4, and Valent meaning to “combined form”). The flu vaccine is technically not one vaccine but actually 3 or 4 different vaccines to cover various strains. All flu vaccines this season are quadrivalent. So if you get the flu shot and COVID booster at the same time, you’re actually receiving 5 vaccines at once. Moderna is actually working on a combined COVID booster + Flu vaccine product.

What I do find fascinating though is that you hardly hear about pushback about the flu shot which is newly developed every year, yet there is so much hesitancy around the COVID vaccine of which billions of doses have been administered and monitored with perhaps the greatest oversight of any pharmaceutical product in history. While it’s true researching long term side effects in anything but real time is difficult if not impossible, find me an example of a vaccine that has caused long term adverse effects. As I have mentioned and explained many times before on this forum, it’s incredibly unlikely due to their mechanism of action versus traditional small molecule drugs.
 
Bell's palsy is a recognized side effect of the vaccines. (I say this as a fully vaxxed person in the medical industry...) One of my best friends got it--thought he was having a stroke. It was J&J so no second shot, but he will get a booster if it is offered. Every case I have heard of it was strictly temporary.

There has been a bit of analysis on this, though there is still a need for more data as these incidents are so few are far between. While Bell’s Palsy has been correlated with the COVID-19 vaccine, it has also been correlated with the active infection of the virus. It’s a well known fact infections can cause this condition. So perhaps had they not been vaccinated, they’d still get Bell’s Palsy if they had been infected instead. This is the case with most major adverse effects in vaccines. There’s also some evidence to even suggest the incidence of Bell’s Palsy rates are not any higher now than pre-pandemic levels. A lot of these COVID/vaccine associated cases are also recurrent Bell’s Palsy, meaning they’ve had it before.

For those people unfortunate enough to experience Bell’s Palsy, the overwhelming majority have symptoms resolve within 3 weeks and most of the remainder in several months. A very small percentage of people have poor symptom resolution.

For people at high risk of complications or death from COVID, weighing the extremely rare potential side effects of the vaccine versus the possible health outcomes of an active infection is an equation ridiculous to give the slightest bit credence to.
 
Got my booster and flu shot together a few days ago. Similar to the 2nd shot I was laid low for a day or so and my arm was super sore, but other than that I am fine.
 
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There has been a bit of analysis on this, though there is still a need for more data as these incidents are so few are far between. While Bell’s Palsy has been correlated with the COVID-19 vaccine, it has also been correlated with the active infection of the virus. It’s a well known fact infections can cause this condition. So perhaps had they not been vaccinated, they’d still get Bell’s Palsy if they had been infected instead. This is the case with most major adverse effects in vaccines. There’s also some evidence to even suggest the incidence of Bell’s Palsy rates are not any higher now than pre-pandemic levels. A lot of these COVID/vaccine associated cases are also recurrent Bell’s Palsy, meaning they’ve had it before.

For those people unfortunate enough to experience Bell’s Palsy, the overwhelming majority have symptoms resolve within 3 weeks and most of the remainder in several months. A very small percentage of people have poor symptom resolution.

For people at high risk of complications or death from COVID, weighing the extremely rare potential side effects of the vaccine versus the possible health outcomes of an active infection is an equation ridiculous to give the slightest bit credence to.
Exactly.
 
From the CDC:


When you are administering billions of doses, it's more likely than not it will coincide with other unrelated conditions.
I don't disagree at all. Correlation is definitely not causation. Still, my point is even if there is something there, the disease still has a far greater chance to cause side effects of an equal or worse nature than the vaccine.
 
First shot: the pain in my arm was horrible, i couldnt lift the arm at all and i couldnt sleep well for few days. After the second shot i got terrible sick, but it lasted only for couple of days. I quess my body reacted hard because i had also covid earlier.. but now covid+2vac -> super protection so bring it on
 
Got my 2 doses Pfizer months ago but just discovered this. Theyre no big deal. I had more side effect from my first shot than the second, which seems to be dissimilar to most people’s experiences, but nothing major in either case. (A little soreness on the arm, mild fatigue/headache later in the day)
 
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There has been a bit of analysis on this, though there is still a need for more data as these incidents are so few are far between. While Bell’s Palsy has been correlated with the COVID-19 vaccine, it has also been correlated with the active infection of the virus. It’s a well known fact infections can cause this condition. So perhaps had they not been vaccinated, they’d still get Bell’s Palsy if they had been infected instead. This is the case with most major adverse effects in vaccines. There’s also some evidence to even suggest the incidence of Bell’s Palsy rates are not any higher now than pre-pandemic levels. A lot of these COVID/vaccine associated cases are also recurrent Bell’s Palsy, meaning they’ve had it before.

For those people unfortunate enough to experience Bell’s Palsy, the overwhelming majority have symptoms resolve within 3 weeks and most of the remainder in several months. A very small percentage of people have poor symptom resolution.

For people at high risk of complications or death from COVID, weighing the extremely rare potential side effects of the vaccine versus the possible health outcomes of an active infection is an equation ridiculous to give the slightest bit credence to.

Our daughter got Bell's Palsy as a child and we brought her to the ER and they gave us prescriptions for two drugs which cleared it up in a week or two. We suspect that the cause was a spider bite which caused inflammation in the face.

I had my flu shot today. No big deal. Nobody else in the clinic was there for a flu shot. They had a huge conference room allocated and I was the only patient there. I suspect the nice weather in New England has people not mentally thinking about the Flu shot yet.
 
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I need to get myself in gear and get that flu shot within the next week or so and then I'll have it out of the way before I go to get my Moderna booster, whenever that will be.....

I'd like to get the Moderna third shot after 2xPfizer. Not sure it's allowed right now.
 
(Note: I am not a medical professional)

The CDC now says:
"Flu vaccines and COVID-19 vaccines can be given at the same time."


I would still prefer to get them at different times. I had the Flu shot this week and had a sore arm for a day. I did it on my right arm as my left arm had several mosquito bites at the upper arm. +6 months would be late October for me so this timing works anyways. It's interesting that more people are reporting colds (I've seen them in the news and the topic of conversation).
 
I would still prefer to get them at different times. I had the Flu shot this week and had a sore arm for a day. I did it on my right arm as my left arm had several mosquito bites at the upper arm. +6 months would be late October for me so this timing works anyways. It's interesting that more people are reporting colds (I've seen them in the news and the topic of conversation).
I agree. I know the advisement now is that you can receive both shots back to back, but I would prefer to keep them separated, just to avoid any type of adverse reactions possible posed from either or.

With the circle of people around me, I don’t know anybody that had any issues either with the booster. Maybe just some mild fatigue, that’s about it.
 
I recently received the flu shot and pneumonia vaccine at the same time, one in each arm. I don't remember the flu shot causing much stiffness this time. I didn't even feel the other one when it was administered!

Looks like the Moderna booster, half as much as the original two doses, will roll out in a week or so. I'll be traveling when that happens, so I look forward to getting it soon after returning home.
 
Pfiizer 2nd booster and flu shot yesterday both at the same time (not sure how good an idea that was). No overnight fever, but headachy, feeling weak, and semi-dizzy. Sleeping on any side with both arms painful is also a challenge. Hopefully all will pass in a few days.
 
Pfiizer 2nd booster and flu shot yesterday both at the same time (not sure how good an idea that was). No overnight fever, but headachy, feeling weak, and semi-dizzy. Sleeping on any side with both arms painful is also a challenge. Hopefully all will pass in a few days.
You are braver than I am. I got my booster yesterday but didn't accept the flu shot because I usually have a reaction to it and after my second Pfizer shot I felt pretty terrible for a day, it's just a double whammy I'm not ready for. I'll go in next week for the flu shot though.
 
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You are braver than I am. I got my booster yesterday but didn't accept the flu shot because I usually have a reaction to it and after my second Pfizer shot I felt pretty terrible for a day, it's just a double whammy I'm not ready for. I'll go in next week for the flu shot though.
I think you made the right decision. Next time, if and when, I'll follow your example. I think I just wanted to get all jabs over and done with.
 
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I definitely plan to get the booster jab separately from the flu jab -- I'll do one and then a week or two later I'll do the other -- just feels safer and more comfortable all the way around to me.

I've had a lot of dental appointments the past two months and really like to pace myself with those things. Same goes for shots, doctors appointments and things which can make you feel better or a lot worse for a little while. The having both arms sore at the same time is a real concern.
 
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I've had a lot of dental appointments the past two months and really like to pace myself with those things. Same goes for shots, doctors appointments and things which can make you feel better or a lot worse for a little while. The having both arms sore at the same time is a real concern.
Though unpleasant, and I complained earlier, doing both is manageable especially if scheduling works best that way. I'm already almost back to normal late the following day. So I think it depends how sensitive one is, and if any major reactions experienced from one vaccine or the other in the past. If so, then separate dates would be best.
 
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Though unpleasant, and I complained earlier, doing both is manageable especially if scheduling works best that way. I'm already almost back to normal late the following day. So I think it depends how sensitive one is, and if any major reactions experienced from one vaccine or the other in the past. If so, then separate dates would be best.
Agree 100%, I feel a little bad and tired but nothing that would keep me from working or anything and once it stops it's pretty immediate, within a period of an hour it's like it never even happened, it's almost bizarre.
 
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Though unpleasant, and I complained earlier, doing both is manageable especially if scheduling works best that way. I'm already almost back to normal late the following day. So I think it depends how sensitive one is, and if any major reactions experienced from one vaccine or the other in the past. If so, then separate dates would be best.

I've had a root canal, a couple of crowns and a filling so a fair number of appointments. Some of those things take a while to recover from, particularly without anesthetic. Add in West Nile, a small bowel obstruction, and just a lot of weird bugs going around and I'd like to minimize combinatoric risk from vaccinations.
 
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