I'm 53 years old. I've never seen nor spoken to a Mongolian. Do Mongolian's not exist then?
That's your logic.
Anecdotal experience is irrelevant.
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I'm 53 years old. I've never seen nor spoken to a Mongolian. Do Mongolian's not exist then?
That's your logic.
Anecdotal experience is irrelevant.
As someone who loves film, it's a bummer that industry has just collapsed.
Even theaters pushed back their openings:
TENET released pushed back again, several major films aren't even going to try this year, they're being pushed back to 2021.
There was a good discussion on The Big Picture podcast about what's happening with the film industry, discussion of direct to home release models, etc.
Oh, he is, he had 3 options: 1) be a regular human being engaged in conversation in the community area of a public forum, and share some photos of a trip, like most likely everybody on the planet would do, 2) try to fabricate some pics (he knows that wouldn't fly with us), 3) pull the old, "I don't have to prove anything", the funny thing is that last option means nothing to folks like you and I, who are intelligent, educated, adults, we know __exactly__ what that means
Even theaters pushed back their openings:
TENET released pushed back again, several major films aren't even going to try this year, they're being pushed back to 2021.
There was a good discussion on The Big Picture podcast about what's happening with the film industry, discussion of direct to home release models, etc.
Oh, he is, he had 3 options: 1) be a regular human being engaged in conversation in the community area of a public forum, and share some photos of a trip, like most likely everybody on the planet would do, 2) try to fabricate some pics (he knows that wouldn't fly with us), 3) pull the old, "I don't have to prove anything", the funny thing is that last option means nothing to folks like you and I, who are intelligent, educated, adults, we know __exactly__ what that means
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yeah I have other friends who have had it but just experienced it like a flu.
Oh wow. Now I understand. If I was 53 I definitely wouldn’t be going to bars or vacationing.
I think age may have a lot to do with how we live our social lives during this time
Jeez dude. Really? lol. If top party schools are popping out people with the ability to process logic similar to yourself .... we're in a deep deep **** puddle. Not even to mention the moral implications of someone who can't think outside of their little world to think about others just a tiny little bit.... ignoring all evidence...
Sigh. And I'm 34. Makes me embarrassed to be this young.
I’d like to point out the forum rules that are instantly bannable...
I think a certain member’s posts qualify and there’s certainly a pattern established. Bragging about reckless behavior thus helping spread a virus during a pandemic is definitely done to “intentionally cause negative reactions”.
I think a certain member’s posts qualify and there’s certainly a pattern established. Bragging about reckless behavior thus helping spread a virus during a pandemic is definitely done to “intentionally cause negative reactions”.
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Way to go in total misunderstanding the point.
This is not about my age and Covid. This is about you and your anecdotal argument.
People need to figure out what’s best for them. What I have a problem with is people who tell others what to do and what not to do. And if you think the Ivy leaguers are any better, you’ll be surprised. One of my Ivy friends has been posting literal selfies on ig of him eating at restaurants and hanging out with friends. You’re young enough to know you only post your best on ig and yet there he is. I’ve said before, people need to figure out what is best for them, but if I say I’m going to the bar nobody has the right to tell me not to go. It’s open, and I’m following the rules. People can call it “selfish” all day but guess what? I quarantined when they closed things months ago. There is no 2nd quarantine now where I’m at and probably won’t be if I had to guess. So I say it’s selfish for those who say to stay inside and do nothing Bc you know it’s going to be packed at the bar with or without me there anyway!!!
What if it's best for me to take all your money by any means necessary? So, because it's best for me it's ok? (An example of how this logic doesn't hold up).
And just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean that this justifies you going along with it. With that attitude you could justify a LOT of things that aren't right. "Persons XYZ are going to take Hieveryone's money by any means necessary so... cuz they're going to do it anyway, it's ok for me to join them."
And there we have the root of the issue.
You don't get that the stay in folk are trying to curtail the spread of covid. And this effort is then blown away by people like you.
Some of us are trying to do the best to help get past this. You want to do things that'll prolong it.
What it all keeps on repeatedly (and conveniently, if not even purposefully) overlooking is that dealing with something like a pandemic depends on what others and basically everyone does.
It's all been pointed out and discussed many times, so is there a point to keep on going in the same circles if the same commentary overlooking the same things will just be made over and over (including other threads where it was already all rehashed so many times that those threads have been closed because of that very thing)?
To be honest, after being in higher ed(as both academic staff and faculty) outstanding students can come out of "bad" schools and really crummy students can come out of historically top tier schools. A lot of it is about the motivation of the individual student, and students who want to excel in their field will do so.
Of course, the right environment can help foster a student's interest in their field. Often, larger schools(whether Ivy League, big state university, or big private school) can have deep resources and facilities to help students excel. At the same time, at a smaller school, it can be easier to develop a close relationship with faculty. You can find outstanding faculty everywhere who are the top in their field, who are outstanding teachers or mentors, or combinations of both.
I am saying this as someone who has been at smaller private schools where I developed relationships with faculty I still stay in touch with, 10 years as of August 1st at a big state R1, and about to close out my last week there to move on to faculty at a community college.
That's just a long way of saying that where you go doesn't really matter if it's the right match for you as a student. Finding the right match really is key, and aside from your personal motivation that does prevail above everything else.
I agree. This notion that Ivy League people listen to opera, read hard books, own Mensa, don’t party bc it’s immature, use big words, and stay inside bc they’re too smart to party during this time, is something that even Ivy leaguers would most certainly distance themselves from and frankly be embarrassed by. I can say from what I’ve seen the school you went to DOES NOT mean anything in terms of how you behave during this time. I think I’m more careful than some of these Ivy League guys. Like why would he post literal SELFIES on ig with his buddies at restaurants and stores? To me it’s just to show that he’s not sitting inside doing nothing. I’m living my life but I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone by posting on ig like that. Oh and to top it off, HE WASNT WEARING A MASK!
So let me get this straight, regarding your thoughts on people and the way they handle the virus.
Going to a Chainsmokers gig with thousands of strangers is all well and good (and you said you would have loved to have gone).
But you can't understand why your friend would post selfies, "literal SELFIES on ig" at this time during the pandemic.
I've lost the will to live. 😂
The point that some of us are trying to make is that it's NOT just about what's best for you as an individual but also about what's best for society. I think the operative saying here is, "just because you can doesn't mean you should."
The US is going to stay stuck in COVID purgatory indefinitely if people can't accept a little bit of self-sacrifice in the short term, whether that means limiting certain activities, wearing masks, participating in test and trace, etc.
War's are won, and lost, on personal sacrifice.
Make no mistake, this is a war and we're all combatants. Are you going to help fight, or you going to desert your post because it's "too hard"?
It’s pretty clear he’ll never get it. (Not Covid, I mean)
All I can say is WOW and the best of luck to our southern neighbours. It’s clear you‘ll need it and you’re going to be mired in this a long, long time.
I’m out of here. S
Food for thought that I'm sure has already been hashed out elsewhere:
SARS(AKA SARS-CoV-1) was of course another Corona virus that swept several areas 2003-2004, although its infection rate was miniscule compared to SARS-CoV-2. There are still some other striking similarities between the two, though.
SARS capped below 10K confirmed cases, and hasn't been seen since 2004. I'm wondering, though-why could SARS be contained and not the current virus? I'm guessing rate of transmission and also the relatively high fatality rate(over 9% IIRC) of SARS had something to do with it, but I'm just guessing and kind of wondering out loud.
SARS(AKA SARS-CoV-1) was of course another Corona virus that swept several areas 2003-2004, although its infection rate was miniscule compared to SARS-CoV-2. There are still some other striking similarities between the two, though.
SARS capped below 10K confirmed cases, and hasn't been seen since 2004. I'm wondering, though-why could SARS be contained and not the current virus? I'm guessing rate of transmission and also the relatively high fatality rate(over 9% IIRC) of SARS had something to do with it, but I'm just guessing and kind of wondering out loud.
There's heaps of resources on the web about this, for example : https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-do-sars-and-mers-compare-with-covid-19
Children die from it too. And even if they don't they can spread it to others who may/will get sick.
so despite everything being "normal" you guys just hit daily fatality records in 18 states. And even if it doesn't kill you, it can make you bedridden for weeks/months. That in itself will have a significant economic/hospital resource impact.
Give your doctors and nurses a freaking break and keep this under control.
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From what I read yesterday, this new version is a lot more virulent and spreads far more easily.
Also, it managed to get a foot-hold in the USA due to inadequate response and probably 10-25% of the USA population being deliberately difficult about measures put in place to help control it (exhibit a above).
Whatever medical technology the USA has, unfortunately it appears that your population is ill-equipped to deal with a pandemic as large swathes of your population (not most, but unfortunately enough to be dangerous and prevent flattening the curve) appear to do whatever they can to ensure it spreads.
I'm sure someone could announce that jumping off a bridge spreads/increases your chance of catching COVID19 and a number of them would do it.
Whilst other countries are openly discussing/debating eradication vs. suppression of this (we've basically done so in 5 out of 7 states here), the USA appears totally unable to get it under control right now. And until you do, you're going to be barred from travel to most of the world.
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If what you're reading online and reporting here is saying that, then ok. But none of it is reflective of my experience, and many other Americans I know...
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I've heard Sars was kind of like this but not really? Not sure. But I think Sars is worse from what I understand, at least in some ways
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And you've experienced covid19?
Will be interesting to hear your thoughts when you do.
I know a few people who had SARS back when that was spreading. One of them (out of the two I know) says he never fully recovered from it. He didn't die (hospitalised for a month though), but his body has never been the same again.
Few friends of mine that caught it just complained of chest pains or similar, so it doesn't appear at first to be Covid-related, but better test availability will be crucial.
There is a chance that I am currently sick with the virus, but I'm not certain as I have not been tested yet. I am currently isolated though.