They didn’t say that because they have no intention of doing so. They don’t care about people being able to run x86 windows - they’re leaving it to third parties to figure out.
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Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak Discuss Apple Silicon Transition, Lack of Boot Camp Support, and More
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I wonder if it would be in Apple's strategic interest to collaborate with Microsoft on getting something resembling Rosetta up and running on Windows. (Their current emulation solution is less than ideal.) It would allow Boot Camp and virtualization to continue for those who need it, and it would get a wider world of devs on board with ARM, rewriting and optimizing common libraries for the architecture.
A takeaway from this: Apple aren't stupid, they are not going to be switching to ARM thinking its going to be worse than Intel.
Virtualization is the big one for me. I would probably have to kiss my Mac goodbye for work and get stuck with a damn PC, if there's no way to run Windows inside a VM. There's so many VPN's I need to use for several different customers. Time will tell I guess....
That might be the most surefire way to get a 100% good recording, but many videoconferencers stream using a legit DSLR + shotgun mic setup: https://ma.tt/2020/05/ceo-video-streaming/
I hope the kids at VMWare buy several of the A12Z minis. Still have to have Windows for a few things, work and not. And Linux too. I usually use it while kicking and screaming.
I don't think the CS6 suite, Left 4 Dead 2, Unreal 2004, or any of the software that controls my scanners and printers are going to be updated by developers anytime soon.
Just being able to support a Windows VM via emulation (vs. native) would be sufficient for my needs. High performance isn’t really one of my requirements - just functionality. Fingers crossed...
Cant say i blame them, vast majority dont use x86 windows apps on their Macs as there are usually decent MacOS or web based replacements. For example, Visio was easily replaced by LucidChart or Draw IO, and I think Visio Web Based exists now.
They updated cs6. It’s called cc. The fact that you don’t want to pay a subscription (and i don’t blame you) isn’t apple’s fault - it’s not reasonable to expect that software you paid for 5 years ago will continue to run perfectly on every mac ever sold for all eternity.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Intel support isn't going away for many years (I bet 4-5 years) so you have plenty of time to still get your money's worth. And you can just keep an old Intel Mac around for a long time running your old software (get a Mac Mini Intel on clearance cheap once everything is on ARM)
I suspect for most folks, the rare Windows x86 application this will suffice. Also, who knows, maybe Windows ARM might get better support now that Apple is leading the way.
My biggest interest is what Apple actually does with ARM CPU -- do we see massive battery life improvements at the game changer level or amazing new computer designs?
This article from Gruber is a great read on the topic of podcast sponsorships. He genuinely invited smaller companies to sponsor on his podcasts for a negotiable price compared to bigger companies, in the hopes of helping them get by during a time where they obviously have a fraction of what they normally do to spend on ads. (So do the bigger companies, but I think it goes without saying that it’s all relative.) I think it’s great that such an established tech journalist is willing to do that.
(Does this change ads being annoyingly long? No, but, it’s worth considering.)
12 mins of ads is ridiculous. And he wonders why he has not caught the YouTube wave. He could have easily sprinkled the ads throughout the interview. Of course, didn’t get much out of it, more of a lovefest/suck up. It was nice to see the campus a little bit. I am excited to try out the new Apple silicon based Macs when they become available.
You're complaining about CS6 which last release was 2012 according to Wiki?! Yeah, you got your money's worth given CS6 will easily keep working on Intel Macs for another 4 years. You got over a decade of use that's pretty darn good. Howver given CS6 wont get patched to work under Catalina you already were looking at end of life (https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/x-productkb/global/fix-macos-64-bit-compatibility-errors.html ).
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Was it only 12 minutes? I blacked out for awhile and wasn’t sure how long. Who won the elections?
Damn... losing VMWare Fusion support for me would be "goodbye Mac".
I use Windows almost daily for Visual Studio.
I would probably just end buying a MacBook Air and a PC, and use both.
I use Windows almost daily for Visual Studio.
I would probably just end buying a MacBook Air and a PC, and use both.
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So then it wouldn’t be “goodbye mac,” would it?
Yeah and his questions were so slug slow. Like, get to the point and ask the question directly instead of behaving like you are talking to deities.
More direct questions would have been great, like, how are you gonna learn from the Hey.com problems and engage better with developer? Do you understand that third party developers are what make your platforms successful at the end of the day and you must listen and stop being preferential to your own platforms? Ask the hard questions even if they don’t like it. The least they can say is, we are not gonna get into that. But these weak questions bipolar responses to their responses.
I think this is the first time I've actually seen what John Gruber looks like. Not at all the face I had in my head.
Quite funny they use external mics with AirPod Pros. Bit of an admittance!
I am hoping for Boot Camp support for CentOS. I don't care about windows, but non virtualized Linux is a must for me.
Sure, but they demonstrated Rosetta running x86 based games.
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They have said “no bootcamp” so i wouldn’t hold my breath.