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Craig Federighi: Apple Focused on Single-User Face ID, Touch ID Was Never Intended for Multiple Users
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You do know you can create longer and even text based passwords right?
This probably should be set up in a way that the primary user doesn't have to tap anything but a secondary user has the option to tap on something to select his face.
Apple says Face ID has a one in 1,000,000 chance of being spoofed, compared to one in 50,000 for Touch ID, although the probability of a false match is higher among identical twins, siblings who look alike, and children.
Dear MacRumors:
Apple said no such thing about SPOOFING probabilities. Spoofing means attempting to imitate a face. Perhaps you're thinking of a false positive.
What Apple said was:
"The probability that a random person in the population could look at your iPhone X and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 in 1,000,000"
Obviously if you made the correct kind of mask, the chance of FaceId on that person's phone being spoofed is nearly 100%.
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I'm married. Going on 9 years. Never had a need to unlock with TouchID. But my wife uses a 6 digit code that I've remembered. She rarely has had a need to enter my phone. If so I tell her my 6 digit code. If we're in a public place, and I cant access the phone because I'm driving or hands are full, she literally just holds it up to my face, I look at it for less than 1 second and it unlocks. I look at the stereo screen on my dashboard for a longer period of time just to change the song or radio station. So please don't tell me you can't look at the phone for a microsecond to unlock it. Much faster than reaching over and unlocking with your finger.
I can understand why some couples and other situations would want this. But it was never the intended method, so it shouldn't be expected. As mentioned in a previous comment, when signing up to use TouchID with a bank or other secure app, they explicitly have you declare you are the only user of said device.
There are tons of scenarios where accessing information stored on the phone (like a phone number, medical information) can be vital in an emergency. And that is before even talking about the general usefulness of a smartphone (even without any personalised information) in an emergency if the person needing access has for one reason or another not a smartphone him- or herself in that moment.
Is it that hard to type a password? I mean I know it’s a bit of a loss of convenience for you, but I don’t see a parent accessing their kids phone constantly to the point where this would really be annoying. The kid gains more convenience and security from it from other people. To each his I guess
But not with Touch ID. Only with Passcode. And the work involved to move documents around requires both an MDM and a Cache server. Something 97% of Apple customers dont have in their home.
I feel like Apple doesn't have any parents working in the product department...
Even if you don't buy your kids a high end phone... what if they want to borrow your phone to play a game or something... much easier to just register your kids fingerprint.
I don't think he (Or Apple) is considering it, as he said their focus is single authentication at the moment. I think he is just acknowledging the email and the customers idea behind multiple authentication (Which could happen). But I like that he replied to the customer, as it shows a level of respect in the least.
You must not have actually read the original email..
Also, I presume this means you don't use TouchID or FaceID then?
TouchID on an iPhone - there can only be one user; you're probably the only one who's going to use it.
TouchID on a MacBook - there can be multiple users; multiple people may be using the same device in a household.
Different product with different uses.
Yeah, that's pretty obvious though isn't it? I said "he" because he was the one who wrote the letter.
If the position you are in in so sensitive that a complex password is necessary on your iPhone, then you shouldn't be using FaceID at all, as it has been proven to not have secret spy/comic book action hero levels of security. That's to say that you are so very important that it would be worth it for an individual/organization/government to replicate your face by creating a mask to spoof it.
I don't know whether it's ego or paranoia, but the vast majority of us simply don't rate that highly and FaceID and maybe a six digit password is more than good enough.
These replies always intrigue me. He must get thousands of emails like this a day. So I’m assuming he’s got a separate email for work. What does he do - just go in the customer inbox and shoot off a few emails whenever he feels like it? You’d have to think Apple PR would want to take a look first?
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