It is true. At the price point for Macs SSD should be standard. It is the 21st century fwiw.
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Craig Federighi Says Apple Intends to Address APFS Support for Fusion Drives 'Very Soon'
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Yeah. I have the current (2017) 27" iMac in highest stock configuration. It is insane how slow it most of the time feels. It is shocking to me that even my old 2012 MBP was/felt faster (granted, it had SSD). I plan to add more RAM soon (replace the stock 2x4GB modules to 4x8GB) and really hope APFS will also help... (glad to see it's still coming... better late than never I guess).
Yeah pretty sure the emoticon design team and the ones developing a new file system are one and the same.
That is the wrong comparison. What we see is a staggered release of APFS:
- APFS for iPhones/iPads/iOS, also meaning SSDs, came out 14 months ago.
- APFS for Macs/macOS, meaning SSDs and HDDs, has been out for pretty much exactly eight months.
- If APFS for Fusion drives comes out with macOS 10.13.5 in June, that would be nine months after coming to other Macs.
Sure, let's not implement emojis that other vendors have implemented. Certainly nobody would complain about that.
Choose one of the following: “there was a better alternative”, “the technology hadn’t matured”, “there were other priorities on the team”, “the Mac team had migrated to iOS”, “the engineer in charge wasn’t working at Apple anymore”, “the lower level SW routines were subject to outsourcing”, “vacancies weren’t publicized yet because of lacking job descriptions” and all the other explanantions on lamentation that one gets if one half of the org is finding excuses for what the other fail to do.
This is tedious. Just stop, ok? Once again - we're talking about attitude and priorities. If Mac and other important things weren't so neglected, no one would care about these harmless distractions (watch bands, emojis, karaoke, etc).
Why in particular?
Compared to Huawei and Oracle? Yes, absolutely they are. (And they should be!)
The constant "jokes" about emoji are tedious indeed.
There is no priority of watch bands and emoji compared to APFS.
Actually Fusion was a vision ahead of its time. Just recently Windows users are finally able to use similar software tricks with Intel’s Optane drives and AMD’s FuzeDrive. If you want to have fast access and large capacity without paying through the nose to store files that will never need the speed of flash, then this is the best option.
Saying that they "intend to address this question very soon" doesn't mean much of anything.
The "addressing" could end up being a statement to wit:
"We have been unable to successfully implement fusion drive technology into the new APFS file system. Therefore, we are discontinuing all fusion drive configurations in the Mac product line...."
The "addressing" could end up being a statement to wit:
"We have been unable to successfully implement fusion drive technology into the new APFS file system. Therefore, we are discontinuing all fusion drive configurations in the Mac product line...."
You know the saying - one woman can make a baby in nine months, but nine women can't make a baby in one month. It applies to software development more often than people appreciate.
And bringing up emojis in discussions about APFS is not tedious?
There is also a very important difference between emojis or watch bands and file systems or 'syncing services' like iMessages in the Cloud or Airplay 2: The former are clearly bounded problems that are 100% plug & play and of a very well known complexity. The latter interact with existing systems in many ways and are much more complex problems. It thus much easier to predict (ie, de facto decide) how long it takes to create the former and how many resources are necessary.
Producing emojis and watch bands on a regular schedule is therefore a fairly simple process whereas things like APFS or Airplay 2 are much more difficult to implement. In German, the former could be called 'Pflicht' and the latter 'Kür'. In a restaurant, having clean plates and cutlery is the 'Pflicht' and having very tasty food the 'Kür'.
Fair enough. That’s your choice to make.
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Given that they’re still selling Macs with Fusion Drives as I type this message, that’s highly unlikely.
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See above.
No. But their boss is the same guy. And he should either deliver on the assurances he made to those who still need and use computers, or admit that the product has become another "hobby".
No, because this meme reflects last few years of Apple's behavior. Idiotic features like Animoji™ instead of stuff we really need.Yeah...they put APFS on the backburner so they can focus on emojis.
Will this tired meme just die already?
Nobody cares if filesystem programmers really worked on emoji. Apple has so much $$$ that lack of progress anywhere is unjustifiable.
The women at Amazon and Google don't seem to be having a problem.
Sorry, Timmy's smug reminders of the iPhone's popularity don't make me any more confident about the Mac's preservation or future.
The Fusion Drive is a hell of a lot faster than a plain standalone HDD. There's nothing "embarrassing" about that. It works as advertised, and it's a great compromise that offers bulk HDD-based file storage and also a fast SSD-based workspace for active files.
I had this very vividly illustrated for me when I opened up a 2011 Mac Mini with a pokey HDD, added a modestly-sized SSD, and created a DIY Fusion Drive using the Core Storage features that were added to the OS a few years ago. The result: basically a new machine as far as responsiveness.
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It's "get it done now!!" thinking like this, ladies and gentlemen, that gets us half-baked features and security holes. Maybe you love playing games with your file system, but I'd sure as hell rather have APFS done right than done quick.
Then stop announcements before having succesfull intercourse
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Ah - and people should continue driving crash-prone Teslas because they're so blazingly fast...
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You lost me. Is the "Tesla" in your metaphor the Fusion Drive? Is it... driving itself somehow?
(I think you're also a little confused about Tesla crashes caused by people checking out of driving and assuming the car will do it for them, but that's a whole other can of worms.)
Your timeline is not very fair. APFS was announced in 2016. From 2012 through 2016, Apple has been developing APFS and testing for robustness on all platforms. Could they have released it faster? Probably. Do I trust a fast release of something so important? Not so much.
My trashcan Mac Pro begs to differ. they obsolete **** all the time in incongruous ways, and always have.
And really, I can say poop but not ****?
I'm also wondering if the APFS encryption hit can be addressed and improve, or if that'll just take faster controllers (like the T2)
https://malcont.net/2017/09/apfs-vs-hfs-benchmarks-on-2017-macbook-pro-with-macos-high-sierra/
https://malcont.net/2017/09/apfs-vs-hfs-benchmarks-on-2017-macbook-pro-with-macos-high-sierra/