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The touch bar is silly. As a designer I want to interact with my models on screen. Making my Wacom tablet obsolete. As much as I love Mac, maybe it's time to let go. The Surface studio and book have so much more potential.

Did you know that a MacBook is a device you can carry around and still use, when there is no space for a 13 inch Wacom Tablet? :D

I think most of the people here are grasping at straws
 
Offtopic, but kind of surprised how much respect MKBHD has for him. He has become famous himself, but you can definitely see he is really nervous. Crossing his arms, not holding eye contact, holding one arm with the other hand (security) and the frequent cuts in the video suggest there were some times that would qualify as not professional enough for MKBHD, which doesn't happen often in other interviews with him. You can see he is still more the "behind the camera" kind of guy.

As a psychologist this is really interesting. Now carry on boys and girls.
 
Offtopic, but kind of surprised how much respect MKBHD has for him. He has become famous himself, but you can definitely see he is really nervous. Crossing his arms, not holding eye contact, holding one arm with the other hand (security) and the frequent cuts in the video suggest there were some times that would qualify as not professional enough for MKBHD, which doesn't happen often in other interviews with him. You can see he is still more the "behind the camera" kind of guy.

As a psychologist this is really interesting. Now carry on boys and girls.

He's nervous because he knows Apple is duping us by selling overpriced behind the time machines "touch bar" come on guys!!!
 
Well I think the Touch Bar is a fantastic addition, although I have no interest in MBPs. I just hope they release an Apple keyboard with TouchBar/TouchID integration.
 
How many Macbook Pro owners where waiting for a smaller pro? I think not many. How many Macbook air owners wanted a more powerful Macbook Air and where willing to pay the premium? Oh of course how many wanted to get rid of the standard USB ports, because they take up soooo much space?

I'm one 2011 13" MBA owner who was going to upgrade this year to what I'd hoped would be a redesigned (likely thinner) MBP; something and more powerful and premium than the MBA. I also like the move to USB-C.

However I won't be upgrading after all because of the price hike (over the expected price point of last year's MBPs)

So even when there ARE customers this product line up appeals to, I think the price hike is a deal breaker for many.
 
You're really going to compare 2nd Gen Touch ID to pre-2010 Fujitsu laptop biometrics?

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I fail to see much difference between apple's touch id from FJ biometrics pre-2010, and/or their current biometrics (they use biometrics SINCE pre-2010)...but I'll be open minded and let you enlighten me on the differences of the biometrics technology, not the application of it by each company...
 
Craig was the best part of the KeyNote. Although, I feel like the Touch Bar would be limited for developers, but I guess time will tell.
 
Gimmick AT BEST. A little too late. Um...Fujitsu laptops had fingerprint unlock technology before 2010 and many Windows laptops already have 4K screens with multi-touch gestures. As always, enjoy your overpriced MacBook Pros. I wish I could put MacOS on a Dell XPS laptop. Much better design.

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"This product from this company had this feature, and these other products from these other companies had this other feature."

It's easy to criticise a product when you're comparing them to the whole of the rest of the industry combined.

Try a fair comparison, which would be comparing one product to one other product and not one product to everything everyone else has ever made in the last 10 years.
 
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The touch bar is silly.
It is. A touch sensitive screen on a laptop from the company that has said for years that laptops and touch sensitive screens don't belong together. Not sure what this offers that making the whole screen touch sensitive doesn't.

Unfortunately, I'm a sucker for these things. Perhaps in a few years, when my 17" MBP gives out...
 
The touch bar is silly. As a designer I want to interact with my models on screen. Making my Wacom tablet obsolete. As much as I love Mac, maybe it's time to let go. The Surface studio and book have so much more potential.

Yea maybe we can turn it into a Hackintosh?
 
I'm really curious to try one of these in person. I was "meh" about 3D Touch then I got a 6S when the 7 came out and I love it. I use it A LOT.

I won't miss the function keys. I use them as media keys and can't touch type them anyway. I even have CapsLock mapped to esc.

I'm really excited about these machines. The price burns a bit and I want to see one in person before buying but I have a feeling this bar is going to be more useful than I expected. Unfortunately I use my laptop as a desktop 80% of the time so if it is useful, here's to hoping they add one to a standalone keyboard.
 
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Who knows, maybe next year they will release a Macbook Pro that costs $2000 less and has newer hardware? I'll buy one if they do.
 
i was waiting for a new macbook pro to work with, and to replace my mbp late 2012... now they give me a neat starbucks filmwatching machine with apple pay touch id, with a conservative powerupdate and thunderbolt3 only. at this moment, i am for sure not thinking changing my extern devices or buying adapters for my apple display, iphone, hdmi, sd cards, ethernet, thunderbolt, just because apple want to make me buy a fancy thin laptop. i love well designed things, but this make no sense for me. i cannot figure out how to use this toolbar with a second monitor or with my wacom cintiq. the macbook pro should be my work horse... at home i dont need more than an ipad or a macbook air... i guess apple dont want to see the meaning difference of user experience at work and on my freetime.
luckily waited for buying the new iphone... and now with this mess, apple finally made possible to make me think trying something else.
 
I think people are getting hung up on a minor option that was shown, which they don't care for, and not paying attention to the real potential. And once the shortcuts are there, and as a user you are used to where you or a dev put them I doubt you will need to look to use them.
It was a bad example for them to show, and all it does is devalue the whole "Pro" monikor that they were already losing sight of prior to this. I don't get any "pro" vibes from an icon.
 
Hey Craig,
How about touch screen instead of this touch bar stupidity?!

Hands are in the way of the thing you're working on, you have to endure an OS that's designed for both keyboard and mouse and also touch, it's uncomfortable to use and it leaves fingerprints all over the screen you are using to edit photos and videos.

No thanks. If you want that functionality then go for a MS solution or a tablet.
 
Apple wastes so much money on a failed, ill-advised car project and thinks its customers will foot the bill. No way Apple. You can get a much more 'pro' machine from Dell for half the price. Much as I prefer macOS you can't keep screwing your long-term customers. Bye, bye.
 
Hey Craig,
How about touch screen instead of this touch bar stupidity?!
Touch screens on laptops just don't work. No hinge is stable enough to make using it an enjoyable experience, and you end up with a display covered in fingerprints. No one I know who owns a laptop with a touchscreen uses it (this is excluding convertible form factors and tablets that detach from the keyboard, eg. Surface Book).

The Touch Bar is actually situated on a stable platform (the laptop itself), and allows for firm presses, especially those requiring high precision.

I absolutely agree that the Touch Bar has "so much potential" for developers. That's not a guarantee that the Touch Bar is a must-have feature right now, or even in the near future. But like any piece of hardware today, it will require killer apps to make it great.
 
DJ's will never, ever, mix a live set on that little strip called Touchbar. A crossfader for example has to be ultra light, smooth and fast. There's very good hardware for that. No DJ will use multi touch on the touchbar. It's a demo gimmic if you ask me.

It's interface madness to devide (and hide) functionality over two separate screens. I just don't get it, sorry.
 
MKBHD did nothing to help with the information already presented. Every Apple youtuber i am sub'd to is acting the same way. "hey everyone im so glad to talk about this revolutionary Apple laptop". I'm honestly afraid for the information im getting from them. I really want someone honest and forthright. I want the Larry King of youtube to talk to Craig.
 
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Cool feature, but hardly worth the 'Hello again' tagline IMO.

What has happened to Apple's continuity?

iPhone 7 with no headphone jack - plug in via Lightning, okay sure. But to then KEEP a headphone jack on their updated MacBooks instead of replacing it with a Lightning port? This doesn't keep in line with their 'courage' statement. It simply DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

And in all seriousness, this NEVER would have happened.....

Replacing the headphone jack on the Mac with a lightning port would have made no sense. Unless they we're going to start making high quality lightning headphones/microphones and allowing 3rd parties to use lightning ports on their device. Apple didn't take the headphone jack to push lightning the did it to push wireless. Right now wireless isn't to the point where you could use it for "pro" work so taking it out with all the space they have in a MacBook would be foolish and unjustifiable.
 
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