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MKBHD did nothing to help with the information already presented. Every Apple youtuber i am sub'd to is acting the same way. "hey everyone im so glad to talk about this revolutionary Apple laptop". I'm honestly afraid for the information im getting from them. I really want someone honest and forthright. I want the Larry King of youtube to talk to Craig.


All those mainstream reviewers act the same for a long time now. They just read a specs sheet and that's it, they never talk about their own experiences de facto.
 
Did you know that a MacBook is a device you can carry around and still use, when there is no space for a 13 inch Wacom Tablet? :D

I think most of the people here are grasping at straws

Surface book is portable and has a touch screen? What's your point. "Touch bar being a good alternative for my Wacom tablet ???" I stayed with apple because I despise windows. Maybe I should give windows 10 another try.
 
it's a lame duck. It isn't needed. It doesn't solve a problem and it actually introduces problems. For anyone who works intensively with their machine it adds nothing. Even as a gimmick to sell to the wealthy casual user, I think it is underwhelming.
 
DJ's will never, ever, mix a live set on that little strip called Touchbar. A crossfader for example has to be ultra light, smooth and fast. There's very good hardware for that. No DJ will use multi touch on the touchbar. It's a demo gimmic if you ask me.

It's interface madness to devide (and hide) functionality over two separate screens. I just don't get it, sorry.

You're wrong. W*nk**rs will use it.

The fact that they chose the DJ demo as their audio killer application shows us how these middle aged men have absolutely no idea why we use Macs. We use them because they are invisible and powerful and disappear as our art created on them comes to life. That's why we love them.

They'll learn when these things just don't sell.
 
Really? All the tech sites love it. The public will slate anything, no matter what it is.
Well if Apple buys me a really awesome lunch and gives me a free sample I will say whatever they want me to say too.

Additionally (edited) the reason why I rarely use the function keys is because they are just out of finger reach. The touch bar is still just out of finger reach. If all the keys were re-mappable such as transparent keys with OLED at the base, then I'd be raving and praising as Apple coming up with something useful.
 
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Touch screens on laptops just don't work. No hinge is stable enough to make using it an enjoyable experience, and you end up with a display covered in fingerprints.

What do you think the touch bar is, if it's not a touch screen on a laptop?

Oh come off it, you know exactly what he means, which is using the main display as a touch screen on laptops just don't work. Of course you already know that as you quoted him completely out of context and conveniently missed out the part I've highlighted in bold.
 
From what I saw of the Adobe demo, they do let them use it for shortcuts. I think the emoji thing was a stab at humor with the messaging app....

I think people are getting hung up on a minor option that was shown, which they don't care for, and not paying attention to the real potential. And once the shortcuts are there, and as a user you are used to where you or a dev put them I doubt you will need to look to use them.
Finally, a reasonable human being.
 
Not sure if I missed it, but:

I wish the touch bar would be already equipped with haptic feedback and 3D Touch ... so we have to wait another cycle ...
 
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Poor Craig. It feels like him and Phil are the last of the SJ bred senior execs who actually want to innovate and push the boundaries. But they're held back by Timmy's penny pinching ******** and Jony's idiotic quest for an invisibly thin Apple device.

The way Craig says in his first answer, that they've been working on this for years.. to me it sounds like "FFS, Timmy finally let us get this out."

I support an ouster of CEO Tim Cook. Replace him with Craig, he seems like a smarter and more down to earth guy. And Craig actually knows about tech products, not just a bean counter.
 
Oh come off it, you know exactly what he means, which is using the main display as a touch screen on laptops just don't work. Of course you already know that as you quoted him completely out of context and conveniently missed out the part I've highlighted in bold.

Hinge not stable: I agree.
Display covered with fingerprints: didn't hold off people for buying an ipad

There is something called convertibles. I might give it a try. Who knows: I might end up Alice in Wonderland.
 
A mess. Devices that don't interconnect. Dissed function keys but new Macs with function keys.

I was in the market for two 15" MBPs.

Right now, I can't see a Mac that is of interest to me. The prices outstrip the technology and value.

Not disappointed. Sanguine enough to accept that I probably need to look elsewhere for my computing needs.

A lot of friends and family followed me in buying Apple devices. I expect most will follow whatever advice I give next.

Strange times. But exciting to be heading into a new challenge. Probably.
 
Sure it has great potential and it enhance the user experience with fullscreen app.
When I work on my MBA I really need space and putting some toolbar buttons on the touch bar would be great. But I never look at my keyboard while typing so I'd have to change the way I work with my computer.
It is cool technology but not a game changer, at least not for everyone

Why do people think they can't use this without looking at it? You will easily learn where the controls are and will be able to do it without looking.
 
Touch screens on laptop's are useless apparently?

And yet strangely Apple promote the iPad Pro with a keyboard resulting in pretty much the same relationship between keyboard and display as a laptop. Actually because of the lack of trackpad we're constantly in the gorilla hands position.
 
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Hinge not stable: I agree.
Display covered with fingerprints: didn't hold off people for buying an ipad

There is something called convertibles. I might give it a try. Who knows: I might end up Alice in Wonderland.

It really depends on what you want out of the device. iPads aren't primarily designed for Pro use (Yes I know we have an iPad Pro but lets be honest here, it's not a pro device by any means, as far as I'm concerned the Pro moniker for iPads just means +$100 on the price tag), so people aren't going to editing professional video or photo's on their iPads, but they are on pro laptops, ergo you don't want fingerprints all over the screen all the time.
 
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