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Credible Leaker Says New iMac to Feature 'Really Big' Display Larger Than Current 27-inch Model
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Don’t they sell more products if they get rid of all-in-one iMacs? Where is the cannibalising if they make the new iMac a two piece. Why do people assume an all-in-one is needed for top performance? Isn’t thunderbolt cable as fast?
I'd like to see Apple do a Mac Mini sized Mac Pro-mini, WITH the cheese grater. Imagine that. Obviously the price would have to come down. Like 20 or 30 bucks😉. Then they can announce the new, slightly lower priced 'Pro-lite' monitor line they haven't been working on all this time...
Who knows. I expect a 32" iMac. They could go bigger. I think anything smaller that 32" is rather pointless, don't you?
Got to wait and see what Intel has in store for Thunderbolt 4 and Apple with its Silicon.
Everyone's ergonomics are of course different, but I really like height for productivity work, to minimize vertical scrolling. Indeed, Apple has generally distinguished itself in this area by making aspect ratios that are lower than those that are standard in the PC world (e.g., 16:10 for laptops vs. the standard 16:9).
I recall working on one complicated Word document when the height of my 27" screen was too limiting, so I put the monitor in portrait mode, and its 23.5" vertical was wonderful (though it limited me to working on a single document).
My fantasy monitor would probably be a wrap-around retina that would provide 3.5x the horizontal dimension of my 27" (= 82"), that was 22" high. That would work out to an 85" diagonal with a 3.7:1 aspect ratio. At retina resolution, that's 87M pixels, or 4.8 Apple XDR displays. Just a bit above the capability of the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo, which can drive 4 XDR's
.Getting back to reality, one tip I'd recommend if you want to be comfortable working with a taller monitor is to lower it--it's more comfortable to look down than up. When I was working with my 27" in portrait mode, I had the bottom of the screen as low as it would go.
I just found these things from Cisco after getting side tracked by some new APs from Allied Telesis.
These Cisco Small Business APs seem pretty good, in my tired state this evening. A three pack sells for $495 on Amazon. With three POE injectors at $58 that makes the 'kit' ~$560. Expensive, but seem to be powerful/fast. Ceiling mounts included isn't bad. I've got to do something. The wifi here is a little patchy. The Airport's are doing the best they can but...
Just to make it "look good from behind in a Doctors office"
- Thank you for the laugh.
I have an Airport Time Capsule and I love it. Rock solid WiFi, and easy peasy Time Machine backups. It will be hard for me to give it up, but if I start buying Apple products with WiFi 6E that will likely prompt me to make the jump. Maybe for a Linksys based on what you have discovered. I am hoping that Apple gets into the WiFi 6E game with a new Airport device, but I doubt it.
I get your point entirely. My dream is a nearly endless canvas where information is in focus where ever I look. Apple glasses might be able to do that. Tilting your head or eye tracking might be used move to the area of interest. We can drop the screens and their physical limitations all together.Everyone's ergonomics are of course different, but I really like height for productivity work, to minimize vertical scrolling. Indeed, Apple has generally distinguished itself in this area by making aspect ratios that are lower than those that are standard in the PC world (e.g., 16:10 for laptops vs. the standard 16:9).
I recall working on one complicated Word document when the height of my 27" screen was too limiting, so I put the monitor in portrait mode, and its 23.5" vertical was wonderful (though it limited me to working on a single document).
My fantasy monitor would probably be a wrap-around retina that would provide 3.5x the horizontal dimension of my 27" (= 82"), that was 22" high. That would work out to an 85" diagonal with a 3.7:1 aspect ratio. At retina resolution, that's 87M pixels, or 4.8 Apple XDR displays. Just a bit above the capability of the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo, which can drive 4 XDR's
Getting back to reality, one tip I'd recommend if you want to be comfortable working with a taller monitor is to lower it--it's more comfortable to look down than up. When I was working with my 27" in portrait mode, I had the bottom of the screen as low as it would go.
Well, as the patient or customer sees the back, the port should be in the front. Side mounted ports are fine.
The only ports I can consider to have in the front is USB-C as they are small. Can you also hide them in plain view with similar sized ventilation holes (or speaker holes), a whole row of these holes in the front will be quite pleasing. The two holes to the right and left could be USB-S, the rest holes for ventilation/speaker.
100pc it’s down to adobes poor optimisation. They got rid of multithreaded support 5/6 years ago meaning the fastest computers were the ones with the highest single core speed.
This meant 2017MBPs were wiping the floor clean against £7000 Mac Pros. Because the software couldn’t utilise 32 cores, only one.
Only in the last few months have they changed that. But yes, the software on their end could be a lot better.
I think anyone who's ever owned one an iMac in the last 10 years or so knows that horrible sound of metal-on-metal as you try to plug a cable in. To be honest, most cables stay in my iMac, but maybe a thunderbolt one on the side or front would be handy to have for things that go get unplugged regularly. Of course it will never happen.....
Given the performance of the M1 chips, a nice big iMac with 12 cores could be a great buy, my only nervousness would be around what features they hold back from the first-gen - i.e. FaceID.
Given the performance of the M1 chips, a nice big iMac with 12 cores could be a great buy, my only nervousness would be around what features they hold back from the first-gen - i.e. FaceID.
There are a lot of $2K and $3K laptops to fill that gap.
They didn't seem to understand their market well with iphone 12 mini , eMac, G4 Cube, Homepod, iMac Pro, Ping, MobileMe
Apple Introducing New Mac Pro, Pro iMacs and External Display Over Coming Years
“If we’ve had a pause in upgrades and updates, we’re sorry for that — what happened with the Mac Pro — and we’re going to come out with something great to replace it.” Apple Senior Vice President of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller is talking to a small group of reporters. The purpose of the...techcrunch.com
The imac is Apple’s most popular desktop Mac.
I predict that the imac will remain as the default go-to Mac for the mass consumer, and for pro users who can get by with the bundled 5k display, and don’t have the budget for a Mac Pro.
The iMac must be their most popular desktop , there isn't much alternative. The Pro and Mini comes without a screen, keyboard, or mouse.
It doesn't help that most people opt for laptops now days, its not 1994 any more. I am not saying it does not have a market, just saying the market must be very small now.
I agree its a good value for all in one especially the screen. Video and Graphic designers can easily justify the Pro price. Even a middle spec. one for like $12,000, if you pay installments over 24 months it will only come out as $500/month which is extremely reasonable business expense. As PRO Creative you must be making at least $2,500 a month... at least. I am sure they make much more. Then you can sell the pro so you don't really lose that investment anyway.
The iMac will fill the gap for the prosumer, someone who thinks he is a little bit too serious when it comes to creative work or a hobbyist. But honestly I have seen many people who claim to be video editors doing it just over a macbook, some even use iMovie in iPad.
Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to see an updated iMac G4 (flowerpot) design come back, an integration of the Mac mini and giant iPad on a column. Not too sure they would be overtaken on USB ports by the plenty though.
A ’pro creative’ is making that in a few days......hardware is peanuts. I dont think you know the reality of business.
It also bears remembering the history of the iMac - it was Jony Ive's first significant contribution to Apple and arguably the poster child of Apple's design-led culture that has allowed it to thrive and prosper.
10 most revolutionary designs by Jony Ive for Apple
As Jony Ive steps down from Apple, we take a look back at his incredible list of industry-defining career highlights, from the the iMac, to the iPod, iPhone and Apple Watch.
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As such, a mid-tier modular Mac simply makes little sense from Apple's perspective, however much the people here clamour for one.
30" screen, ports in the stand, height adjustable and hinged for portrait use. That'd be nice.
That poster seems to miss the irony in him participating in an Apple-enthusiast forum and denigrating people enthusiastic enough to speculate on the release date of new products, but is himself reading and participating in the same discussion.
Making the monitor able to pivot between landscape and portrait solves the issue nicely without the need to alter the primary aspect ratio. Such monitors have been around for 20 years.
This is the one I have been waiting for. I am currently running a maxed out 2014 iMac in my home office because Apple hasn't really given me a reason to upgrade in the past 7 years (49 years in computer years). When COVID hit last year I started creating a lot of video and I would really like to upgrade to a new iMac with better performance. I will be placing an order the day Apple starts accepting orders. I am just hoping the larger iMac is launched at the same time as the smaller one, it is going to be really painful waiting for the larger one if they release the small one first.
Pro tip of the day: Don’t buy a cheap hub. There are quality hubs and docks out there, if you look with more than your wallet. Some include HDMI ports, some include DP. I prefer DP to HDMI.
The answer isn’t more ports, some people will plug in and fill up 20 ports for no other reason than they can do it and are too lazy to really evaluate their real needs and their workflows.
Everyone touts the 2015 MacBook Pro as the gold standard around here and it only had TWO USB 3.0 ports. I used a TB dock, but never used the SD Card or HDMI. Everyone is different, but most Macs come with plenty of ports. The crowd here is simply bloviating that more ports are going to fix their problems and that isn’t necessarily the case. Again, 4 USB4/TB3, 4-6 USB-A, SD Express, 1/10GbE, audio in/out should be just fine for the M-Series iMac, along with 802.11AX and BT 5.0. Pretty sure that DRAM and SSD will not be user replaceable, which is something everyone here needs to prepare themselves for more than lack of ports.
Something doesn't make sense.
The current Pro XDR 6k 32" display is $6,000.
The current iMac 5k 27" is $1,799 (average BTO around $2,200).
How is Apple going to replace the old iMac with a 32" 6K iMac and keep it in the realm of reality?
If they raise the price and a 6K iMac starts at $6k, it will be an utter failure. You can't move the market from $2k to $6k.
If they keep the price reasonable and the 6K iMac starts at $2k, the Pro XDR display will look ridiculous at its price point.
Neither option here really makes sense.
The current Pro XDR 6k 32" display is $6,000.
The current iMac 5k 27" is $1,799 (average BTO around $2,200).
How is Apple going to replace the old iMac with a 32" 6K iMac and keep it in the realm of reality?
If they raise the price and a 6K iMac starts at $6k, it will be an utter failure. You can't move the market from $2k to $6k.
If they keep the price reasonable and the 6K iMac starts at $2k, the Pro XDR display will look ridiculous at its price point.
Neither option here really makes sense.
Frankly all evidence suggests it will have 2 ports.
1. The M1 Mac mini dropped from 4 to 2.
2. The rumors suggest the next MacBook Pros are inexplicably adding ports like HDMI, SD, and MagSafe. The unspoken reason is that they are losing 2 ports.
3. The M1 Macs all have 1 port-per-bus, a change from the past where they had 2 ports-per-bus. So interestingly, the Mac mini still has the same number of buses as before, and the M1 MacBooks have fewer. None of them have more.
It's impossible to tell what the reason is, but Apple has elected to go with fewer of these ports, and improve their performance at same time by having dedicated buses. Perhaps that's the reason, but we just don't know. Few people have talked about this at all, since its of course possible that it doesn't play out this way with future M1 Macs. But I think the evidence is all there that it will.