Because if you want a high ppi screen, you have only one 6k monitor option, and it costs like 10x the mac Mini, and the aging 5k lg display.
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Apple CCFL LCD’s in 20”, 23”, and 30” were the best displays. Calibrated to work seamlessly with OS X. I had 23” and 30” ones. I remember a friend who worked for Annie Leibovitz took me to her NY studio one day and she had 4 Mac Pro’s with 8 30” displays lined up. It was incredible.
Then Steve slowly gave Cook more control as he transitioned towards CEO in the late 2000’s and killed Apple’s dedicated display line and replaced it with an iMac panel in a stand enclosure which was a cost saving move. The 24” and then 27” LED LCD’s were plagued with quality control issues as the soldering on the PSU’s was crap. I went through dozens of displays that Apple thankfully replaced from 08-17 until I replaced them with the LG 5K 27” UltraFine display. They’ve been great and thankfully I didn’t have the shielding issue and I don’t mind the aesthetics - the stand and display blend into my setup.
However, if Apple produced a display that was on par with the 23” and 30” displays in the $1k-$2k market they would sell like mad. $5000 for a display that requires a $999 stand - I don’t care how amazing the panel - as the only Apple display available was a slap in the face. Not everyone is a pro who needs that powerful a display. Apple’s displays were the perfect balance of form and function - plug it in and you’re good to go.
It’s as baffling as Apple leaving the networking market by abandoning the AirPort line while ~90% of their products depend on solid routers as they push harder into streaming services. It makes no sense.
None of these products were niche. I knew a lot of people who weren’t pro’s that owned 20” and 23” displays and AirPort routers.
Probably follow the same design cues as iPhone lineup, 3 years rear case design and 3 years front case design. Feature drip that has been Apple’s way for some time now.
Display specs change only slowly. You’ll likely get 10 years or more out a monitor. Your own needs are more likely to change before the monitor is outdated.
Please make a stand alone monitor Apple! Please! I have an M1 MBP and a god awful monitor.
Not sure I'm "arguing the wrong point" so much as having a different opinion than you, mate. I do a lot of work on an iMac 5K and I would absolutely hate to see it take on that gimmicky "ultrawide" screen ratio.
It’s called recycling...I’ve never once dumped a computer or a monitor in the trash/landfill. When it came time to get rid of old computers, I took them to recycling. I own three iMacs (2010, 2013 and 2019) and I’ll keep the 2010 as a High Sierra machine for 32-bit or older software, sell the 2013 and the 2019 is my main desktop rig. I can use the 2010 in TDM, which would be nice if Apple brought back for Thunderbolt 3 computers, but may not ever. All this wailing and gnashing of teeth about all these iMacs in landfills is incredibly over-dramatic. If a user has no problems throwing away an iMac, they certainly won’t have a problem throwing a way a desktop and a separate monitor. For most people, an iMac makes the most sense. For the crowd on MacRumors who b***h about literally everything, it’s just par for the course.
This thread is full of pure insanity. “Take my money”; let me do a layaway program; using ALL my money for this.......anyone stupid enough to put a computer before daily needs is truly insane. Anyone with a $1200 iPhone while working a $15 an hour job, is insane. Some really screwed up priorities on full display in this thread.
Cannot speak to your hub experience, as I’ve been using a Satechi USB-C hub without incident, but I’m sure you’re not the only one. Big Sur has inflicted some pain, for sure. my main iMac is still on Catalina and will be for while as most of the pain from that move is over now. It only took almost a year, but it’s stable.
There are reputable manufacturers of hub from Anker, Satechi, Amazon, et al. If you actually means Docks, well I’ve got a Cal-Digit TB 1 dock, an El Gato TB2 dock and a Cal Digit TB3 mini dock with DisplayPort and I have never had a problem with any of them. I don’t use HDMI if I can avoid it at all costs and I don’t own a display that is HDMI only.
Who needs 14 USB ports?!?! Seriously, I get that 4 may not be enough for some audio rigs and setups, but then I’m sure people may need to rethink their workflows. Do you need absolutely every piece of USB storage online at all times? Do you have to have the DVD Burner plugged in all the time? The card reader? Are you using video post production devices that require a dedicated port? Seriously, outside of a few unique circumstances, most people don’t need all those ports, they need better file organization and better workflows. You’re not part of the “I must have a wired keyboard and mouse crowd”, are you?
recycling is the biggest lie ever and i don't want to recycle, i want to keep using the perfectly good display.
I don't think we will see 8K monitors outside niche applications for a while. Thunderbolt 4 is too slow for 8K at 60 Hz, so the monitor would need two cables and use two Thunderbolt controllers.
I know. I was shocked that Apple dumped their wifi business too. So many techs carried the Airport Express APs. They were small, powerful, easy to setup, easy to reset and reprogram. Great stuff. I bought the Linksys mesh system, and it was pure crap. I couldn't keep the mesh up. One of or the other, of the three nodes, was disappearing. It was so unstable, I actually have all of them inn an old milk crate in my office, and I dug the Airport Extreme APs out of the donation bin.
My company was a Cisco dealer, and there was a keynote for a conference, where he said that Cisco branches out into the products that their customers want. He said that when they ignore, or drop a hot tech genre, and their customers need that tech, they will seek it out from other vendors, and if they are looking, they will come across things that compete with Cisco in other areas. The more they are a 'one source shop', the happier the customers/clients are, and the better the tech is at working together. That made a big impact on me, and the company. We added more vendors, and branched out to other areas too.
So, Apple dumping their monitors, printer, and networking businesses opened the door for their customers to look for other solutions for what Apple used to provide. And, if Apple recommends and resells a product that turns out to be a turd, they burn their customers TWICE! Cisco's then CEO said that they would even get into a niche market, not to make money, but to keep their customers. I think Apple needs to think that being a one stop shop for *everything* isn't realistic, but, dangit, the items that people need are NETWORKING, MONITORS, and MORE PORTS!!!
Dropping those lines, and pushing other vendors crap (in the wifi area) is inexcusable. I was so furious that that Linksys stuff turned out to be crap. So disappointed...
I don't think recycling is a lie exactly, but it is confronting the 'built to last as long as the warranty' mantra of business now a days. I have had so many things that die shortly after the warranty has expired. Heck, I had a Marvel under counter bar fridge, and it lasted about 6 months after the warranty. And it turns out that Marvel didn't put standard connectors for coolant, so I have no way of recharging the system. So to 'fix' the problem, I had to either pay hundreds of dollars to have the system drained, and connectors installed, and the system recharged again, or just buy a new one.
Did I buy another Marvel? Oh heck no!!! US made or not, they screwed me. Bye bye... So recycle it? No. I still have it. It's in the garage. waiting for me to get pissed enough at it to take on the job myself. If it only had connectors...
Companies used to over design their products, so they lasted past the warranty. Heck, now so many products don't make it to the end of the warranty! I have a trainer bike that is largely junk. I mean, it's a great idea, but the engineering and manufacturing is really not great. I'm on my 3rd bike. Some are on their 5th or 6th. Yikes... And don't get me started on hand tools. So many are just such crap. It's depressing...
Who needs 14? How many can live with 4, or less? The stinginess of Apple with ports is also abysmal. People start looking at other systems with far more ports. People get burned by cheap hubs. (Oh, I did see a PeeCee that had something close to 20 USB ports of various types. AND I believe it had multiple HDMI ports too. Some users only need 2. Some need 6, or 8. I could use 6 USB-A, and another 2 USB-C. I have several HDD's, and other goodies plugged in)
We have been waiting far far too long.
I remember having a bit of a go at the guys in the store about this when the LG displays were released.
A big reason many buy apple computers is the aesthetic and the main element that stands out the most is the monitor. So we all buy these nice laptops then have to hook them up to non Apple displays, for no real big reason except their huge profit margin.
It probably is the no.1 thing that is missing in the hardware lineup, together with a mid level desktop.
Monitors have gotten so thin they could almost introduce a dock on the back. Many people have said the iMac is just a MacBook in a monitor shell so why not make it modular. That way you can buy a M2, M3, M4 and use the same monitor by just sliding the computer into the back of the monitor from the top. Got a MacBook Pro? No worries, just close it up and slide that into the back. It would be universal across the range. The depth of the bump only needs to be the same as a few Ipad Pros stacked on each other.
Ahh...cinema displays...the good old days. I remember the first time I saw a 30 inch cinema display in my friend's workshop studio collaborating on a final cut project. Jesus...the display was enormous...as u sat down u were immersed in screen LOL.
Works of art and beautiful companions for 5.1 machines. In those days of course a 30 inch display was not a mainstream consumer product.
So imagine an even larger version of that today!! 2021-2022 looks promising to invest in updated hardware ...hopefully the Apple tax Apple sets for R&D brings a pleasant surprise to all of us.
I don't know. A 4:3 aspect ratio gives you plenty more screen real estate at the same 24" size and portrait orientation wouldn't be so awkwardly narrow and tall. Maybe 3:2 woukd be an alternativ, but I wouldn't go wider than this.
If it uses the same glued design of recent iMacs, then I'm too frugal to like it. When my old iMac refused to boot due to depleted CMOS battery, I could fix it, it only cost a new battery and a very tense (but fun) hour. It also had free RAM slots where I added extra RAM myself years ago. Those were the days.
Thanks for that. I don’t use After Effects so I watched a short video on YouTube. It’s looks like fun but it reminded me of the functionality of Adobe Flash back in 2010, particle Effects and motion blur etc.
Given that these ran 11 years ago without issue, albeit less complex, I wonder whether your absolutely correct need for more RAM is due to Adobe’s poor optimisation of software.