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Spot on...to let it go shows weakness in their minds. Of course the hangers on here will argue that because Apple can do no wrong in their eyes.

Yes, showing weakness by allowing thieves to steal from you is indeed a bad thing. It only encourages thieves and their supporters--like you--which undermines a civil society.
 
Anyone remember Jason O'Grady? He came across some inside information about an Apple product, Apple subpoenaed his ISP, tried to get them to take down his website and source of employment, and also subpoenaed O'Grady himself in order to get the name of the source who leaked the information.


I guess Apple shouldn't give top secret prototypes to irresponsible, young programmers who are bound to leave it somewhere. ;)

What happened to the new iPad being tested only in a dark environment with all windows blackened? Why isn't that same procedure shown with the new iPhone?

According to the New York Times, "Some Apple workers in the most critical product-testing rooms must cover up devices with black cloaks when they are working on them, and turn on a red warning light when devices are unmasked so that everyone knows to be extra-careful, [former employee] said."

And this is relevant how? Do you just not care to back over the 3000 previous posts are try to get up to speed?
 
do remember that Chen DID give it back when asked, and promptly. Apple also did not issue a "cease and desist" order or the like.

It'd have been nice if he contacted Apple instead of vice versa. Tho now that you mention it, it's weird that Apple didn't send their automatic 'remove pix' letter.
 
Yes, showing weakness by allowing thieves to steal from you is indeed a bad thing. It only encourages thieves and their supporters--like you--which undermines a civil society.

How can you see from way up their on your tower of perfection? Maybe you should buy a cape and start smiting the world of all who disagree with you?
 
This entire debacle is a product of Apple's obsession with secrecy. The only reason to go after Gizmodo/Chen would be to make an example of them, or to generate publicity. Either way it's a brash and stupid move, and based purely on principle or personal opinion; if someone wanted this to happen, it would be someone high up in the company.

An Apple engineer, someone who represents Apple, lost their property.

The property was found, then sold to a willing buyer.

The buyer, then, on request from Apple, returned the item.

Honestly, if this involved anything or anyone else, no one would be in up in arms about it. It's just Apple flexing their bully muscle again. What a joke.

Anyways, the new iPhone looks pretty cool.
 
If Apple isn't careful, they could wind up looking preeeeety bad from this whole thing - it smacks of anger, hubris, and vengeance if you ask me.... do remember that Chen DID give it back when asked, and promptly. Apple also did not issue a "cease and desist" order or the like.

Too true, they have just spat their dummy because they can't wow the world with their new iPhone in June! Thats what this is all about. I'm telling you just watch them re-release the 3GS with a new name and scrap the new design just out of sulking!
 
And they will. ...but you and I are not well informed enough of the details and the bigger picture to make that call - hence it being bad karma to wish harm upon others, even if said other is a total douche.

This is America! We have a right to wish harm on whomever we want to wish harm on under the first Amendment. We don't however, have the right to pick up trade secret prototype phones that could harm our most important companies, when we find them, and claim them as our own and distribute them to foreign competitors. Hmmm, I wonder if Jason also potentially violated any ITAR export control laws prior to releasing technology before the Department of State has had the opportunity to review it for export.
 
It'd have been nice if he contacted Apple instead of vice versa. Tho now that you mention it, it's weird that Apple didn't send their automatic 'remove pix' letter.

PRECISELY why for me, the jury is still out on Apple doing this "accidentally-on-purpose".
 
How can you see from way up their on your tower of perfection? Maybe you should buy a cape and start smiting the world of all who disagree with you?

Explain what "disagreement" we have, other than you claiming theft is ok as long as violence is not involved? I'm pretty sure that's the only "disagreement".
 
If Apple isn't careful, they could wind up looking preeeeety bad from this whole thing - it smacks of anger, hubris, and vengeance if you ask me.... do remember that Chen DID give it back when asked, and promptly. Apple also did not issue a "cease and desist" order or the like.
C'mon, the kidnapper DID give the kid back after a week.
See how silly that sounds?

A crime is a crime.
 
The legal claim may be about buying stolen property. However, in reality Chen's computers were taken because of Gizmodo's exposure of the phone, not because the phone was sold to Gizmodo. If Gizmodo had merely bought the phone and returned it to Apple, do you think Chen's house would have been raided? After all, the house of the person who found the phone wasn't raided. Shouldn't he be the actual target since he actually *sold* the stolen property? This is a publicity stunt on both sides. Gizmodo, to get a gazillion readers to its site. AND Apple, to demonstrate how much power they wield.

Are you making too much assumptions? How do we know the seller's home wasn't searched?

Actually, just by Gizmodo's story that's enough to bring charges against Chen and the seller. The purpose of the search may be to determine whether Chen was acting under the order from his boss.
 
I can't believe there are actually people here with so much sand in their crotches over this that they are wishing harm on, or cursing the birth of, posters who disagree with them.

Amazing study in sociology.
 
Well there is no question in my mind that Apple is being a bully and Gizmodo did nothing wrong.

I could care less what value Apple places on it's prototype...I place no more value on it than anything belonging to an average person yet those people would not get such rapid and aggressive investigation. Lady Justice is supposed to be blind but it's quite clear she is influenced by money and power just like everyone else.

You've been here, what, not even a month, and you are already a regular?

I definitely value your judgement...
 
PRECISELY why for me, the jury is still out on Apple doing this "accidentally-on-purpose".

I might have entertained that until there were warrants and depositions. Apple doesn't have a history of being into felonious publicity stunts. Plenty of other kinds, but not the felonious kind.
 
PRECISELY why for me, the jury is still out on Apple doing this "accidentally-on-purpose".

There is no way law enforcement would get involved if that was the case. Apple would never let it get that far. Actually, Apple would never start it in the first place. They have no reason for such practices.
 
This is America! We have a right to wish harm on whomever we want to wish harm on under the first Amendment. We don't however, have the right to pick up trade secret prototype phones that could harm our most important companies, when we find them, and claim them as our own and distribute them to foreign competitors. Hmmm, I wonder if Jason also potentially violated any ITAR export control laws prior to releasing technology before the Department of State has had the opportunity to review it for export.

Sure, and you have the right to build yourself up a nice big pile of bad Karma too if you want to... that doesn't mean you SHOULD, of course...

...and what's all this about Apple being one of our "most important companies"!? What stuff! They're not Northrop Grumman or something... the next iPhone isn't exactly a threat to national security if it's lost... get a grip man!
 
I can't believe there are actually people here with so much sand in their crotches over this that they are wishing harm on, or cursing the birth of, posters who disagree with them.

Amazing study in sociology.

He's a criminal! You wish criminals well? Do you think well of Casey Anthony too?
 
Stolen?

It was lost (from the reports I heard) but was there ever an intention to permanently deprive the owner of it?

If the Apple engineer hadn't lost it and it was obtained dishonestly, then I can understand the crime implication.

He ****ing sold the thing. . . I don't know of a way to more "permanently deprive" the owner of the item.
 
Let the inmates turn out chen in a turkish prison!

That Jason Chen sure has an ugly mugg. Is his head really that big? Has to be photoshopped. He has a huge dome and looks overly constapated all the time.... He should go to jail!
 
For those of you who think Jason and Gizmodo are right and okay. I would like to let you know there are millions of people who agree with you in China.

"there should be no trademarks"
"there should be no copyright"
"we should be able to see prototypes before they are launched"
"we should be able to copy them completely"
"it's unfair that people like Apple forbid us to copy their products"
"we make them cheaper for you if you let us copy"

I'm betting from the images we saw posted, that there is enough info there for external looking replica's to pop up in China by launch date for Apple.

Jason Chen and Gizmodo, China business wish to thank you.
 
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