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Criminal Investigation of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Spurred by Apple Requests

knewsom said:
I don't see any reason for the criminal investigation portion of it to prevent a cease and desist... what's done is done. but honestly there aren't many examples I can point to.
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My experience with police investigations is that they discourage (but of course can't prevent outside of unusual circumstances) further involvement by the putative victim once the investigation is underway. It can make their job harder, and they don't like it when their job is hard. :p
 
In regards to it being theft, I've read that the person who found it attempted to contact Apple at least twice in an attempt to return it. If this is true, Apple really has no business playing the victim. They dropped the ball on that one.

Now, I'm not suggesting that they shouldn't get it back - of course it's theirs. What I'm saying is that calling the cops to report your property has been stolen after the "thief" simply found it and on two separate occasions tried to return it to you is very disingenuous.
 
Bad Precident

PeckhamBog said:
Stolen?

It was lost (from the reports I heard) but was there ever an intention to permanently deprive the owner of it?

If the Apple engineer hadn't lost it and it was obtained dishonestly, then I can understand the crime implication.
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I am also under the impression the phone was LOST. I'm curious how this will affect the "Finders Keepers" defense for the rest of US ;)
 
Mike Reed said:
In regards to it being theft, I've read that the person who found it attempted to contact Apple at least twice in an attempt to return it. If this is true, Apple really has no business playing the victim. They dropped the ball on that one.

Now, I'm not suggesting that they shouldn't get it back - of course it's theirs. What I'm saying is that calling the cops to report your property has been stolen after the "thief" simply found it and on two separate occasions tried to return it to you is very disingenuous.
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He didn't try to return it. He opened a trouble ticket with an outsourced helpdesk which he knew full well (considering he knew where to go to sell the thing) would go nowhere.
 
coleridge78 said:
My experience with police investigations is that they discourage (but of course can't prevent outside of unusual circumstances) further involvement by the putative victim once the investigation is underway. It can make their job harder, and they don't like it when their job is hard. :p
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From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???

Also, according to the article, it was the engineer who got the police involved.
 
knewsom said:
From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???

Also, according to the article, it was the engineer who got the police involved.
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It's not just a phone. It's a prototype the represents billions of dollars.
 
knewsom said:
From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???

Also, according to the article, it was the engineer who got the police involved.
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Stand by to be told why it is so much more than a phone and may very well be the key to the survival of the human race. Someone must die for this travesty!

ETA: OOps one post too late...darn.
 
ouimetnick said:
Well, don't leave your car with the keys in it. You intentionally left a car.
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I'm with Gizmodo/Chen on this one but I have to object to this part of your post right here.

It doesn't matter if you leave the keys in your car. It's yours. Nobody can take it. You're basically saying that if I leave my front door unlocked at night, anybody can come in and steal what they want because I "intentionally" (albeit, accidentally) left my door open? You're also saying police bait cars are basically illegal because of the same reason.

I can't believe I just read such stupidity. Wow.
 
chembox said:
Not everyone who refuses to ride the pro-Apple wave is an astroturfer.

There's a thing called individuality.
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Sorry, astroturfer; repeatedly claiming that the law says something it plainly does not say ("finders keepers, and thieves are A-OK!") isn't "individuality". It's delusion, dishonesty, or astroturfing. Or all three.
 
Blacklabel34 said:
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umm no....lost item is not stolen until it is reported stolen and if memory serves correct the phone was given back sooo no
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Wrong. Wow. Totally false. Unreal. You can't sell something you "find" with a value over $100 without turning it into the police first. Even if it hasn't been reported stolen yet. Otherwise you could sell it 5 mins after you find it to sell it before it was even reported to skirt any law that it needs to be reported first.

And on top of that you're assuming it was just "found" in the first place.
 
coleridge78 said:
Sorry, astroturfer; repeatedly claiming that the law says something it plainly does not say ("finders keepers, and thieves are A-OK!") isn't "individuality". It's delusion, dishonesty, or astroturfing. Or all three.
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Alright, fanboy.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid El Jobso feeds you.
 
knewsom said:
From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???
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Yeah, that's how police work. You have something stolen and traded behind your back, you hire a private staff of in-house police officers to do your evil bidding.


I wonder what percentage of Macrumors users are kids in school...
 
pastparticiple said:
Stand by to be told why it is so much more than a phone and may very well be the key to the survival of the human race. Someone must die for this travesty!

ETA: OOps one post too late...darn.
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Jason,

You are starting to become rather transparent. Don't you have something more important to be doing.
 
Too bad gizmodo documented their idiocy all over the internet. They posted about how much they paid, they posted on whose phone it was and his personal details, they have a video of their own employee holding the ill gotten property on youtube.

Oops. Looks like all that publicity might be coming back to bite them.
 
knewsom said:
From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???

Also, according to the article, it was the engineer who got the police involved.
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From the looks of things, eh? Have you been so concerned about any actions taken that bore on the businesses of any of the other 24 members over the years?

Personally, I'm not a fan of corporate entanglement with government. But that's a red herring here. Someone is a thief, and Gizmodo (proudly and gleefully) offers bounties for stolen goods. I don't care which unit with who on the steering commission is responsible for investigating it: people who steal material goods for any reason other than feeding their families are scum and need to be prosecuted.
 
knewsom said:
From the looks of things, Apple has the cops on their payroll... I mean, a multi-jurisdictional high-tech task-force, for a PHONE???

Also, according to the article, it was the engineer who got the police involved.
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It's a computer and technology crime squad, not Apple's private army. The prototype phone is technology, no? And you think it's just a phone---no value beyond a used cell phone?
 
PeterQVenkman said:
Too bad gizmodo documented their idiocy all over the internet. They posted about how much they paid, they posted on whose phone it was and his personal details, they have a video of the guy holding the ill gotten property on youtube.

Oops. Looks like all that publicity might be coming back to bite them.
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They kept milking the cow to the last drop, all their greediness is coming back to bite them right in the butt.
 
wovel said:
Jason,

You are starting to become rather transparent. Don't you have something more important to be doing.
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Eh? My name is not Jason Chen. I mean I get what you are trying to infer I just think it is silly and not very original.
 
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