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I definitely value your judgement...

Excellent! Feel free to contact me for my opinion on any issue you may be struggling with!

BTW If you seriously think "seniority" in an internet forum means anything then you are bent.
 
I might have entertained that until there were warrants and depositions. Apple doesn't have a history of being into felonious publicity stunts. Plenty of other kinds, but not the felonious kind.

There is no way law enforcement would get involved if that was the case. Apple would never let it get that far. Actually, Apple would never start it in the first place. They have no reason for such practices.

Where are the civil suits? Where's the "cease and desist"? If charges are brought, I'll completely agree, but in the meantime.... too many questions still.
 
Sure, and you have the right to build yourself up a nice big pile of bad Karma too if you want to... that doesn't mean you SHOULD, of course...

...and what's all this about Apple being one of our "most important companies"!? What stuff! They're not Northrop Grumman or something... the next iPhone isn't exactly a threat to national security if it's lost... get a grip man!

It is a threat to our economy because foreign corporations can now steal Apple's ideas before Apple has even launched their product. And nobody can deny how important Apple is to our nation! Wake up!
 
Stolen is stolen

I think the point that a lot of people are missing, is the fact that the prototype was 'stolen' property. Here:

I go to a restaurant, and drop my car keys. If you find my keys, is it okay for you to take my car with you home? And then sell it to someone else? The answer to both questions is NO.

The moment that iPhone left the bar, it became theft. And Gizmodo knowingly, or should have known, that the device they so wanted to be a real iPhone prototype, was acquired by suspect means. Gizmodo participated in a crime. And the whole journalist thing, ********. If I was a journalist, and murdered my wife, does that mean the police can't search my home?
 
For those of you who think Jason and Gizmodo are right and okay. I would like to let you know there are millions of people who agree with you in China.

"there should be no trademarks"
"there should be no copyright"
"we should be able to see prototypes before they are launched"
"we should be able to copy them completely"
"it's unfair that people like Apple forbid us to copy their products"
"we make them cheaper for you if you let us copy"

I'm betting from the images we saw posted, that there is enough info there for external looking replica's to pop up in China by launch date for Apple.

Jason Chen and Gizmodo, China business wish to thank you.

I know its hilarious. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat apple to market.
 
Where are the civil suits? Where's the "cease and desist"? If charges are brought, I'll completely agree, but in the meantime.... too many questions still.

It's far too early for a suit, even if there were not a criminal investigation.

Is it common to issue cease and desists when a criminal investigation is already ongoing?
 
So he deserves it. How would you feel if someone bought your stolen Mac and made such a big deal out of it on camera and in your face?
 
I think the point that a lot of people are missing, is the fact that the prototype was 'stolen' property. Here:

I go to a restaurant, and drop my car keys. If you find my keys, is it okay for you to take my car with you home? And then sell it to someone else? The answer to both questions is NO.

The moment that iPhone left the bar, it became theft. And Gizmodo knowingly, or should have known, that the device they so wanted to be a real iPhone prototype, was acquired by suspect means. Gizmodo participated in a crime. And the whole journalist thing, ********. If I was a journalist, and murdered my wife, does that mean the police can't search my home?

Only if you wrote a story about murdering your wife and claimed yourself as the source.
 
It is a threat to our economy because foreign corporations can now steal Apple's ideas before Apple has even launched their product. And nobody can deny how important Apple is to our nation! Wake up!

ROFLMAO.... Man, I like Apple's products too, but seriously, they not exactly a cornerstone of our economy.

It's far too early for a suit, even if there were not a criminal investigation.

Is it common to issue cease and desists when a criminal investigation is already ongoing?

It's common to issue a cease and desist when sensitive information and images of an unreleased product are shown publicly.
 
ROFLMAO.... Man, I like Apple's products too, but seriously, they not exactly a cornerstone of our economy.



It's common to issue a cease and desist when sensitive information and images of an unreleased product are shown publicly.

You're kidding right? Everybody and their brother has an iPod and/or iPhone. Macs will out number PCs in less than 5 years.
 
It's common to issue a cease and desist when sensitive information and images of an unreleased product are shown publicly.

When a criminal investigation is ongoing? My experience is that that is not the case, but you may have wider experience than I do. Any examples?
 
I give Wired credit for turning down the offer after receiving "thinly veiled" requests for money for the phone. I don't like their saying "even going so far as to search alphabetically through Facebook". So what, the idea of going to the police was too far-fetched?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/dude-apple/

The whole "we tried to give it back" story is total and utter BS. The thief KNEW it belonged to Gray Powell and he KNEW it was a prototype iPhone. Gizmodo easily found Gray Powell at Apple and so could have the thief.

Then the thief decides to try to get it back to the original owner by shopping it out to a bunch of news sites? Give me a break! Thankfully, the smart and sensible news sites told the thief to get lost. We all know which one wasn't smart and sensible.

Mark
 
When a criminal investigation is ongoing? My experience is that that is not the case, but you may have wider experience than I do. Any examples?

I don't see any reason for the criminal investigation portion of it to prevent a cease and desist... what's done is done. but honestly there aren't many examples I can point to.
 
That Jason Chen sure has an ugly mugg. Is his head really that big? Has to be photoshopped. He has a huge dome and looks overly constapated all the time.... He should go to jail!

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Wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall in some of these offices right now?

I wonder if there will be a movie?

Quick write it up now and sell the rights?

And just for amusement taking any of the following words what new words can you make using all the letters;

e.g Apple - P pale

Jason Chen
Gizmodo
Prototype
Gray Powell

feel free to suggest any new relevant words to add.
 
For those of you who think Jason and Gizmodo are right and okay. I would like to let you know there are millions of people who agree with you in China.

"there should be no trademarks"
"there should be no copyright"
"we should be able to see prototypes before they are launched"
"we should be able to copy them completely"
"it's unfair that people like Apple forbid us to copy their products"
"we make them cheaper for you if you let us copy"

I'm betting from the images we saw posted, that there is enough info there for external looking replica's to pop up in China by launch date for Apple.

Jason Chen and Gizmodo, China business wish to thank you.

I agree with what you're saying. But the key point that the Chinese and the Japanese miss is the following: The secret sauce is the software.

Japan has never, and I repeat never, produced a mobile phone with good software, despite all the superfluous functionality they add. That's why the iPhone is doing so well here.
 
I know its hilarious. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat apple to market.
Right, so let's see... pictures of an earlier prototype emerged from China in February. They've made more prototypes since then and probably tons of manufacturing samples, and they ought to have started up mass production already. But it wasn't until the Chinese saw pictures of it on an American website that they realized "hey, that thing looks great! Let's clone it by studying these grainy pictures of a partial disassembly!"
 
Personally, I think Engadget should face some punishment too if they failed to immediately report the incident (being approached with stolen property) to law enforcement.
 
Wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall in some of these offices right now?

I wonder if there will be a movie?

Quick write it up now and sell the rights?

And just for amusement taking any of the following words what new words can you make using all the letters;

e.g Apple - P pale

Jason Chen
Gizmodo
Prototype
Gray Powell

feel free to suggest any new relevant words to add.

...now don't make ME issue a cease-and-desist.... ;)
 
Buying stolen property...... How many times does this need repeating?
:confused::confused:


umm no....lost item is not stolen until it is reported stolen and if memory serves correct the phone was given back sooo no

and if memory reallly serves me correct...the last time I miss-placed something it wasn't stolen so again NOO

on another note hasn't this issue been beat up enough? come on
 
Ludicrous headline here guys:

"Criminal Investigation of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Spurred by Apple Requests"

First paragraph:

"The Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal reports that the criminal investigation of the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of a next-generation iPhone last month and subsequent purchase of the device by Gizmodo was spurred by requests from the Apple engineer who lost the iPhone and outside legal counsel for the company."

How on earth do you think those two match up?
 
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