One would have been a start.
Fine, here's one. You can't use what you've lost and property is determined by use (or possible use).
QED
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Fine, here's one. You can't use what you've lost and property is determined by use (or possible use).
QED
He tests products!!!! Do you really believe that a magical wizard waves his wand when a new product is introduced? Are you four years old?
There are hundreds of these test phones around... he has no other phone. Comprende...
No he's not supposed to lose it, that is a risk, but if he doesn't test the phone in the field (which includes using it in a packed bar) then you will be the first whining little girl complaining about the poor quality... It's part of product development.
That's uninteresting, because it's only another bare assertion. A pile of bare assertions is no more supported than a single one; it's only more time-consuming to clear away.
I think this was discussed several times already. If you find something you cannot keep it. You either give it to the manager/staff from the building or to the police. You cannot sell it. The phone worked first - at least that was reported in a Gizmodo article for a while. Afaik there was no doubt about it for the "finder" nor for "Giz" that this was a prototype of Apple. Otherwise Giz woudln't have paid 5 k dollars. Giz wrote about that they had it, so Apple and the police knew exactly where to look.
He tests products!!!! Do you really believe that a magical wizard waves his wand when a new product is introduced? Are you four years old?
There are hundreds of these test phones around... he has no other phone. Comprende...
No he's not supposed to lose it, that is a risk, but if he doesn't test the phone in the field (which includes using it in a packed bar) then you will be the first whining little girl complaining about the poor quality... It's part of product development.
I understand that, but it beig a prototype, it deserves special attention. Why didn't he skip the sim into his razr? Or his old iPhone?
Eh probably the microsim.
I hope your kidding. As if your typical joe isn't aware that a new iphone, or new electronic equipment in general, is in the works of the said manufacturers. Nothing released by this story suggested the release was immanent enough for anyone to consider holding back on the 3GS that would not already have done so. The media can report and sell fluff all they want, the simple fact of their claiming Apple is losing hardly makes that a plausible claim. If you got serious data or reasons to point to though, I welcome them.
Assuming facts not in evidence, defamer. Also, irrelevant to the point at hand. You said it was okay to take it because he was drunk. Now you're subtly shifting the goalposts. Pathetic.
That's uninteresting, because it's only another bare assertion. A pile of bare assertions is no more supported than a single one; it's only more time-consuming to clear away.
See, first you ask for one, then you go against that and demand more. Everything you have yourself said is also uninteresting, because everything you said is simply more bare assertion. A pile of fluff not worth much consideration. So unless you have something interesting to contribute, leave the guy alone.
I'm not at all kidding. Joe Smith is considering an iPhone 3G. On CNN he sees a story about "Apple's new phone." He waits. This is not surprising - it happens all the time. There are many famous stories of companies pre-announcing something, then taking too long to get to market, and losing out on sales.
And your "if you got serious data" is a ridiculous request - obviously neither I nor anyone else is privy to apple's day-to-day sales figures. But there's a good reason successful companies carefully control the timing of the release of new product information.
Well, everything pointed to the introduction of the new iPhone in June (late June afaik). So I could well immagine that Apple will lose quite a lot of money.
With all due respect, you're incorrect. He's been referred (by myself and others) to the relevant statutes, and qualified opinions. That is, lawyers and judges in the state of California. That is not bare assertion.
What was asked for was some sort of relevant evidence for a claim; you can't say "he offered another claim, what more do you want, that's unreasonable!" because the initial question was never answered at all.
I also have to agree: It doesn't matter how the phone was lost (or if it was even stolen directly from the eng.) The "finder" cannot sell it even after he called Apple. Give it to the bar keeper / manager or to the police. That's what we've done when we found BB in London.
While I agree that companies carefully control the timing of their releases, they are also well aware there is always someone out for the scoop. Apple screwed up in this case by losing their prototype, whether or not there was subsequent legally defined theft involved. Ultimately, they are the ones responsible for the leak no matter how you cut it.
I am not subtly doing anything. i NEVER said it was ok to take his phone because he was drunk...never. You twisted my words into that. It's not cute anymore.
You are starting to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to me..."WAHWAHWAH WAH WAHWAHWAH WAHWAH"
Well, but they can sue Giz for that. Of course the judge will/can say its partly Apples fault ("you left the key in the engine") but still the "finder" and the dealer will/can get a (huge) fine etc.
It seems quite evident he doesn't think that the relevant laws and statutes hold much merit in these circumstances. To demand that he justify that position would seriously derail the entire thread. I see little point in heckling him further.
I know Apple is secretive but their competitors must have a very good idea of the changes in the new iphone its not like the competition is sitting around idly wondering about the next iteration of iphone ... they are actively seeking out information and probably already have knock-offs ready to sell ..... this whole story is as bizarre as the islamic extremists attacking triscuits.
You're simply a liar. Here's the quote:
Yeah getting smashed and leaving a top secret phone at a bar is not his fault...he is the "victim" here.
You said he wasn't a victim, because he was "smashed". Quite succinctly. This was just the most recent example.