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Criminal Investigation of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Spurred by Apple Requests
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Still stalking every post I make? No I will NOT send you a used pair of my underwear. Maybe I can manage an autographed picture if you are nice.
A "mistake" is wearing a blue sock and a black sock or leaving your umbrella behind on a rainy day because you ignored the weather report. Paying $5,000 for a stolen item is not just a mistake.
So even you admit there's ethical failure here. Good.
Products, in particular cell phones need real world testing. That means off campus. Apple has done this with devices throughout its history going back at least as far as the Apple Lisa development and it surely happened with the iPhone G1 which Steve Jobs was seen carrying at his kid's little league game before it was officially available. Companies all over do this as a matter of course. Apple is not to blame. The engineer is not to blame. *HE* made a mistake.
The THIEF and Gawker/Gizmodo were crooks.
Yeah getting smashed and leaving a top secret phone at a bar is not his fault...he is the "victim" here.
I am not debating you. I am stating my opinion. I have no interest in "arguing" with some anonymous internet expert. Clearly you want engagement because you keep demanding that I answer you or prove my views. Not interested skippy
You called?
Sorry. Had to.
Easily? I hope these aren't the same economists who said there was no housing bubble and said there were no debt issues, etc...
There is nothing "easy" about predicting sales (how do you taken into account Android, overall economy, consumer knowledge, rightly or wrongly but newly formed bad will towards Apple, etc...). If it was easy, I suspect you would see businesses ran in an entirely different manner. I'm sure they can hire a economist to say any number they would like said, but the other side could do the same. Problem is that the other side won't have the money to compete. One of the big issues with hiring 'experts' and our legal system IMHO.
Yeah getting smashed and leaving a top secret phone at a bar is not his fault...he is the "victim" here.
At least you're consistent. You defend defamers and thieves, and enjoy engaging in a little defamation yourself on slow Tuesday nights.
This is not going to get you the undies. In fact you are starting to make me feel a little violated. There is flattering and then there is flat out creepy.
I guess you haven't heard of the concept of the tyranny of the majority yet. Figures.
You must be one of those blind fanboys right? The engineer knew how much a prototype is worth to apple. He decided to bring it to a fricken bar and lose it. I would NEVER bring anything VALUABLE to a bar. Even if I didn't get drink off my ass, there would be people who would. I wouldn't want a valuable piece of equitment where people can behave like fools. Then on top of it, the story claims he GOT DRUNK and left the phone there. I don't know why HE BROUGHT THE PHONE WITH HIM TO THE BAR. Unless he was already drunk? He ducked up big time. NONE of this would have happened if he used his small PEA SIZED brain and chose to leave a valuable phone at home... that simple. I hope your blindness fanboyism will let you comprehend this information.
Yeah getting smashed and leaving a top secret phone at a bar is not his fault...he is the "victim" here.
Is it okay to rape people who are (allegedly, according to the word of an apparent felon) drunk, too, or just steal from them? I'd be interested in having a list of exactly which illegal and immoral acts are excused by the victim having a couple of beers. It might come in handy someday if I'm ever at the bar and decide to put a round for the whole joint on the credit card of the guy who won't stop crying about his breakup.
Excess inventory numnut!!! Marketing has to pull double time for the new 4G = big dollars.... Marketing spent on 3G has to be pulled = big dollars....
Serioursly?
That's the point, isn't it? And what the other side isn't likely to matter. The jury only thinks about damages if they've already decided Gizmodo is at fault. Once they've pegged Giz as the bad guys, they won't be apt to believe Gizmodo's characterization of the damages to Apple.
Nobody took advantage of his self inflicted altered state to steal from him. HE LEFT IT THERE. But don't let that stop the melodramatic whining.
And why do people always feel the need to "announce" when they put somebody on ignore while tossing one last insult? Incredibly childish.
Be reasonable, at some point everyone puts a stop to a demand for more reasons. The demand can go on to infinity.
I'm not sure if I've seen my upcoming comment repeated by someone else over the past few days:
When did anyone STEAL anything?
As far as all the news reports I read, Person X found a phone at a bar. Person X, for whatever reason, decided to sell the phone to a journalist. When did the Apple employee REPORT IT STOLEN? As far as I know, you can't lose something, cry about it, then 3 days later report it was "stolen" because you found out where it now is located. And if you did try that act, you would be filing a false police report (reporting something stolen).
Whatever happened to "losers weepers, finders keepers"? I mean, seriously, if the Apple employee had some super secret iPhone with him, it should be glued to his hand...he's an idiot for losing it in the first place. If I left my iPod on the bus and then heard it was later in the hands of someone, there's really nothing I can do...nor much I can do to PROVE that it is my iPod.
If I found a phone in a bar I would certainly try to find out who owned it by asking Patrons. But there is no law that states I need to spend my life looking for the bozo...or that I need to bring it to the police station (I have no idea of its value). If there was a law that stated every time you found something on the street you had to bring it to the police station, every police station in America would be the size of a mall...holding all sorts of crap. How does the person know it's "lost" and not just thrown out? Does anyone have any idea of how many jewelry items are found every day?...and subsequently either given to other people or sold at a pawn shop?...or just plain old thrown in a proper trash can.
Gizmodo probably should not have bragged about paying $5000 for it...but so what? It's still not stolen property. It's LOST property. And where was the Apple employee for the 4 days that Gizmodo and all Apple related websites advertising that said stolen/lost iPhone was now in the hands of Gizmodo?
1)I think Apple should just fire the employee for losing it.
2)Apple should have *ASKED* for it back...nicely... as Gizmodo was in no legal obligation to even prove that they had it. I believe Apple did ask for it back.
3)It's not Gizmodo's fault that someone "found" an iPhone...what if they found it in a garbage can, or on the side of the road, or it showed up in an anonymous package? Gizmodo never signed anything stating they would give back said device. Let the Apple employee run and cry to Apple that someone has their precious device and let Apple figure out how to get it back...IF THEY EVEN HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT for it back.
4)And who's to say the seller of the iPhone wasn't the Apple employee? Or...what if Person X was the 15th person who owned the phone (since it was lost) and was the lucky person to figure out it wasn't a busted phone at all but a new concept phone and could make a boatload of money selling it...that the other 14 people before him just figured it was broken and passed it around from friend to friend.
-Eric
When did anyone STEAL anything?
As far as all the news reports I read, Person X found a phone at a bar. Person X, for whatever reason, decided to sell the phone to a journalist. When did the Apple employee REPORT IT STOLEN? As far as I know, you can't lose something, cry about it, then 3 days later report it was "stolen" because you found out where it now is located. And if you did try that act, you would be filing a false police report (reporting something stolen).
Whatever happened to "losers weepers, finders keepers"? I mean, seriously, if the Apple employee had some super secret iPhone with him, it should be glued to his hand...he's an idiot for losing it in the first place. If I left my iPod on the bus and then heard it was later in the hands of someone, there's really nothing I can do...nor much I can do to PROVE that it is my iPod.
If I found a phone in a bar I would certainly try to find out who owned it by asking Patrons. But there is no law that states I need to spend my life looking for the bozo...or that I need to bring it to the police station (I have no idea of its value). If there was a law that stated every time you found something on the street you had to bring it to the police station, every police station in America would be the size of a mall...holding all sorts of crap. How does the person know it's "lost" and not just thrown out? Does anyone have any idea of how many jewelry items are found every day?...and subsequently either given to other people or sold at a pawn shop?...or just plain old thrown in a proper trash can.
Gizmodo probably should not have bragged about paying $5000 for it...but so what? It's still not stolen property. It's LOST property. And where was the Apple employee for the 4 days that Gizmodo and all Apple related websites advertising that said stolen/lost iPhone was now in the hands of Gizmodo?
1)I think Apple should just fire the employee for losing it.
2)Apple should have *ASKED* for it back...nicely... as Gizmodo was in no legal obligation to even prove that they had it. I believe Apple did ask for it back.
3)It's not Gizmodo's fault that someone "found" an iPhone...what if they found it in a garbage can, or on the side of the road, or it showed up in an anonymous package? Gizmodo never signed anything stating they would give back said device. Let the Apple employee run and cry to Apple that someone has their precious device and let Apple figure out how to get it back...IF THEY EVEN HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT for it back.
4)And who's to say the seller of the iPhone wasn't the Apple employee? Or...what if Person X was the 15th person who owned the phone (since it was lost) and was the lucky person to figure out it wasn't a busted phone at all but a new concept phone and could make a boatload of money selling it...that the other 14 people before him just figured it was broken and passed it around from friend to friend.
-Eric
If it did FALL OUT of his pocket OR HE put the pone down, an ****** about it, then it's his fault. Yes the finder SHOULD have returned it, but he shouldn't have brought a million dollar gadget with him while he drinks.
I see your point. The eng. made a mistake, it is his fault that he lost the iPhone. That does not let the "finder" and Giz/C. off the hook
Too bad there's no feature to block from view all responses that quote him too.
Sorry...
True, but that's Apple decision how to handle it, I'd say more private story than the other one. The other one is that the "finder" did sell it, acted like he owned the phone.