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CrossOver Mac Beta Released!

Performance?

GFLPraxis said:
Someone do me a favor and try Age of Empires and Photoshop 7, please :)

I have Photoshop 7 for Windows and for Mac OS X (PowerPC), and am planning to buy an Intel Mac, and don't have the money to buy a new universal Photoshop on release, which means dealing with performance lag or rebooting in Windows all the time.

And Age of Empires, I would just really like that to run :)
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If Photoshop (for Windows) runs... it will most likely out-perform the PowerPC based version running under Rosetta emulation. Afterall, it's compiled for x86... only the API is being "emulated".
 
OK, After a complete reinstall, IE6 is back up and running. When it crashed before, I had to Force Quite CrossOver which somehow corrupted it and it wouldn't start again. Still won't load MacRumors though...
 
GFLPraxis,

Just so you know, I have an Intel Core Duo Mac Mini running Photoshop CS2 (Mac) just fine in OS X. It ran kind of slow until I put a GB of RAM in, but now I can't even tell that it is PowerPC.
 
I tried to install VMware Player.. it installed but doesn't launch hehe ;)

Well I guess iDisk Utility for Windows won't work :D
 
reachingforsky said:
GFLPraxis,

Just so you know, I have an Intel Core Duo Mac Mini running Photoshop CS2 (Mac) just fine in OS X. It ran kind of slow until I put a GB of RAM in, but now I can't even tell that it is PowerPC.
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Oooh, nice, thank you :D My Windows-rotted PC lags to a halt to the point that the entire UI starts ghosting when I run Photoshop. Should be an improvement.
 
All 4 of the little standalone apps that I've tried have worked, although they're unsupported. Of course, they run fine in VPC on my PowerBook too, but still it's cool for them to be running in their own window in OS X without loading a full VM.
 
Ohhh man, I wonder if I could get some old school 3D games running on it.

I better start looking for my System Shock 2 cd...it has been a long time.
 
mduser63 said:
All 4 of the little standalone apps that I've tried have worked, although they're unsupported. Of course, they run fine in VPC on my PowerBook too, but still it's cool for them to be running in their own window in OS X without loading a full VM.
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Yep, most things so far seem to work reasonably well. I haven't had an installer exe fail on me, but some things don't work after install. Installing iTunes ATM and will see how that works :)
 
balamw said:
Can't you tell Crossover to present itself as different versions of Windows, including XP?

B
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Yes, there are "bottles" for Windows 98, Windows 2000 and Windows XP, although I noticed that they don't actually mention the XP bottle in the documentation.

Installing Lemmings Revolution now... It's the only Windows game I care about at all.
 
balamw said:
Can't you tell Crossover to present itself as different versions of Windows, including XP?
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You can, I just didn't see it into now. They're called "bottles", kind of like how you have separate VM configurations in Parallels/VMware/VPC. The default one it creates is W2K but you can create a new XP one. I'll have to give that a try.

Edit: mduser63 beat me :)
 
i've been running Parallels w/XP Pro for weeks now and it works like a charm, with *every* Windows app i've thrown at it. and it's fast (nothing like the awful Virtual PC)--i can't see any slowness due to emulation. Warcraft III, MS Office, Dreamweaver 8, IE, you name it.

in fact, i'm using it right now, on a 17" 1.83GHz iMac w/2gb RAM.
 
I successfully installed Visio 2003 and it seems to run good, speed is excellent. However the only fonts available are windings. I posted a question to cross over's beta forum. So hopefully I will be able to at least use Arial if not all my fonts.

scott.
 
Well, Lemmings Revolution installed but wouldn't start. It gave the error "Not a valid CD-ROM drive". That's all I have in the way of Windows apps at this point. The ability to easily test websites in IE6 might be enough to convince me to buy CrossOver, but for now I'm going to hold off.
 
This is the way to go if you want Office on a Mac

slffl said:
I'm very interested to hear some impressions on this!!
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This has been available for Linux for some years now. Assumiong the mac OSX version is the same then

1) It will run a select subset of Windows programs flawlessly at native speed or ion some cases faster. There is NO emulation envolved.

2) Will it run games? See above. If the game is on the a-list (actually "gold list") then yes. But not many games are on the list.

3) Malware? Most windows malware depend of the specific architecture of MS Windows. They will fail to run on the mac because (for example) Mac keeps its address list in a different place and format then Windows does.
Also see #1 above. No viruses are on the "Gold List"

4) Ease of use? nearly trivial.

If you want to run MS Office or a few other very common programs on your mac this is what you want. If you want to be able to run ANYTHING then parallels or boot camp is required.
 
This, I hope hope hope, will be my solution for running Quicken. Quicken for Mac truly really absolutely surely brutally is pathetic. The CodeWeavers compatibility database doesn't have much info yet, but from what I can tell, each version of quicken for windows has some real quirks. Quirks such as it's not possible to register, and therefore, you lose all the quicken.com benefits. Anyone here try quicken yet?
 
mduser63 said:
Well, Lemmings Revolution installed but wouldn't start. It gave the error "Not a valid CD-ROM drive". That's all I have in the way of Windows apps at this point. The ability to easily test websites in IE6 might be enough to convince me to buy CrossOver, but for now I'm going to hold off.
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The crossover forum states that anygame with CD copy protection will not work. However they did also mention that workarounds were possible but they were unable to discuss these on the forum. I was using an early alpha version and managed to skip a few CD protection checks for games by using a NO CD crack (waiting for my replacement MBP to arrive to try out the beta). If you need a link to sites with NO CD cracks PM me but I wont post here incase it is against the rules.

Graham
 
mduser63 said:
Still won't load MacRumors though...
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Haha, I wonder why?!

Great stuff! I'll load Steam, download HL2 and EP1 and sit there just staring at it while it has a fit.
I can't wait to see what this is like in a few months, but it'd be better if it it was pure open source. What's WINE like nowadays?
 
This is fantastic news. I tried fiddleing around with Darwine for ages earlier to no avail. All I wanted was to play Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge!! Those games with networking would be a dream. :)
 
Re: IE failure - Favor

mduser63 said:
OK, After a complete reinstall, IE6 is back up and running. When it crashed before, I had to Force Quite CrossOver which somehow corrupted it and it wouldn't start again. Still won't load MacRumors though...
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www.macrumors.com is working fine for me in a win98 bottle...

IE is tricky. You have to make sure it is running in a Windows 98 bottle;
that is the default, but it's easy to get it installed into a Windows 2000 bottle.
If you go to Configure...Manage Bottles... '+' to make a new win98 bottle,
and then install IE via the 'Applications' tab, you may get more joy.

Also, one favor - please report these to the beta center? We'd really like
to get things triaged so the next beta rev can be cleaner.

Thanks,

Jeremy White
CEO
CodeWeavers
 
I m hoping the Heroes of Might and Magic 3,4,5 will be able to run on this.
 
RIDICULOUS.
I was looking forward to this app to play on some poker sites that are windows run only. The only Poker app that is available on crossover is FULL TILT POKER; which has already been available on Mac. Someone tell me if I am missing some other sites that can be played on crossover



JUST SAW Ultimate bet is available + others. MY bad
 
ulyssespdx said:
i've been running Parallels w/XP Pro for weeks now.......i can't see any slowness due to emulation.
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Yes of course you can't. These is NO emulation. Parallels does not work that way. Parallels runs the your Windows software directly on your Intel hardware. It does trap privlaged instructions but these are very few.
 
Firefox...

... feels "lighter" than the native OS X version..



Just got IE installed. Seems to work fine.
 
HOW does Half Life 2 work? Also can you play CS:S online?!?!??! Please get back to me, debating to drive all the way to my other house to get my os x install cd which is required for this prog to work properly....
 
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