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CSS Animation Coming to Safari, Already in iPhone. Less Dependence on Flash?
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You know, I love Apple, I really do but all you dolts that discredit Flash because you say you don't need it or because it doesn't work on the iPhone (yet) are denying the inevitable. Flash isn't going anywhere but up and I would love to have it on my iPhone (and not kill it, of course). I would love to be able to go to a site and actually WATCH the video on it OR interact with a Flash site and not see the Plugin icon laughing in my face. I don't know the percentage of Flash compared to Quicktime content on the web but I guarantee Flash dwarfs it.
You need to pull your head out and take the blinders off. I'm really starting to hate the Apple community and being clumped together and categorized with the snobby, uneducated people in it. I know we're not all like that but those that are elitists need to go.
Insulting people by calling them dolts, snobs and uneducated is not really going to help your argument.
The reason I was asking "such as?" was that I was trying to get the poster that said "flash has some very useful functions" to explain their case further. A good argument comes with supporting information. That is what I was fishing for. Congratulations on perceiving that as trying to discredit Flash, etc.
Point taken. I will have to say that those that want Flash to die or are so against it need to really open their eyes. And yes, I did take your comment as a derogatory one, my mistake.
Wow 95% on a MacBook Pro???? Man that doesn't sound too good! Hopefully they get a grip on it! Otherwise it sounds as bad as flash in so
me respects. I like the idea but not the current CPU usage! YIKES!If only you could figure out how to open preferences in Safari and look at the "tabs" tab instead of going off on a profoundly ill-informed rant. Either middle-click or Cmd-click...this isn't rocket science, Sherlock!
--Eric
the lack of anti-aliasing in the pulse one pisses me off
also, i believe this made safari "snappier"
also, i believe this made safari "snappier"
Wow.
The above represents some of my favorite kind of forum "participation."
Someone who has "never used an iPhone" yet rants about how "Apple is really far behind on what we use on the net" because their "Nokia does flash."
It's like IE is Microsoft's lone passive-aggressive card they're playing to keep them "in the game" - which is beyond annoying. How can they sit there in Redmond and feel good about what they have to offer the web?
Oh wait, they have Silverlight.
Yah...
I welcome the day that IE is no more. Or at least open.
When is this "joke" going to end?
Am I the only one that is soooo tried of this joke?!?!
Am I the only one that is soooo tried of this joke?!?!
you must be kidding...
Flash is on 98% of all computers and hundreds of millions of devices besides the iphone and you think it's going away? really?
Flash is on 98% of all computers and hundreds of millions of devices besides the iphone and you think it's going away? really?
Let's hope so, but I'm not holding my breath that MS will change their ways from being the least complaint browser
Yes, if they keep putting out the same crap. Just like IE will suffer (hopefully very painfully) if they keep refusing to comply with web standards.
I'll second that
Youtube uses flash. Other apps are nice to have native because you can do more with it, like better graphics, location services, etc. Plus the stuff discussed here isn't really out in the wild yet, so I'm sure in the future web devs like me will start to take advantage of these new tools.
wtf is wrong with a bit of flash glory? as if graphic artist will ever go beyond the wysiwyg of flash. it´s a bit like linux pretendign to be like mac osx
spare me. css, flash, whatevr, all have their place in the tool kit, fimd
That video is about 10-13% on my Mac Pro, an equivalent flash video is about 7-10%. Hopefully it be cut in half before release.
For all of you w/o iDevice
I have the fall(ing) leaves (the real animation) on my MBP's display using "iPhone Simulator" (comes with SDK). Looks identically like on the iPhone (even a bit larger).
It's easy like that:
1. Register as an iPhone software developer here at Apple
2. Download and install Software Development Kit (it's huge - 1,75 GB) - for free
3. Search with Spotlight for "iPhone Simulator" (here the desired result shows up after the i already)
4. Start iPhone Simulator.app and you'll get a nice vivid picture of an iPhone on your big screen. - And it works! (You can't make phone calls admittedly.) You can rotate it to landscape view.
5. Go to Simulator's Safari (this one is REALLY snappy!) and open MacRumors.com's article CSS Animation Coming to Safari, Already in iPhone. Less Dependence on Flash? Type "www.macrumors.com" with the original simulated virtual ;-) iPhone keyboard (mouse/trackpad) or with your "real" one. Enjoy the impression of having an iPhone with some kind of a bluetooth keyboard (without copy & paste of course)
6. Follow the link in the article or directly here: falling leaves (pictured) and save it as a simulator bookmark for showing it to friends next time.
7. Voilà! CSS Animation on your big computer with "Safari Simulator" ;-)
There are dozens of other very interesting things you can accomplish with SDK even if you never plan to develop. P. e. taking screenshots from your USB-attached (real) iPhone or iPod touch directly on your Mac with "Organizer" ("Window" menue tab in Xcode). I think you can actually restore the iDevice from there without iTunes (never tried). Have a look at your iPhone's "Crash Logs" too ;-)
I have the fall(ing) leaves (the real animation) on my MBP's display using "iPhone Simulator" (comes with SDK). Looks identically like on the iPhone (even a bit larger).
It's easy like that:
1. Register as an iPhone software developer here at Apple
2. Download and install Software Development Kit (it's huge - 1,75 GB) - for free
3. Search with Spotlight for "iPhone Simulator" (here the desired result shows up after the i already)
4. Start iPhone Simulator.app and you'll get a nice vivid picture of an iPhone on your big screen. - And it works! (You can't make phone calls admittedly.) You can rotate it to landscape view.
5. Go to Simulator's Safari (this one is REALLY snappy!) and open MacRumors.com's article CSS Animation Coming to Safari, Already in iPhone. Less Dependence on Flash? Type "www.macrumors.com" with the original simulated virtual ;-) iPhone keyboard (mouse/trackpad) or with your "real" one. Enjoy the impression of having an iPhone with some kind of a bluetooth keyboard (without copy & paste of course)
6. Follow the link in the article or directly here: falling leaves (pictured) and save it as a simulator bookmark for showing it to friends next time.
7. Voilà! CSS Animation on your big computer with "Safari Simulator" ;-)
There are dozens of other very interesting things you can accomplish with SDK even if you never plan to develop. P. e. taking screenshots from your USB-attached (real) iPhone or iPod touch directly on your Mac with "Organizer" ("Window" menue tab in Xcode). I think you can actually restore the iDevice from there without iTunes (never tried). Have a look at your iPhone's "Crash Logs" too ;-)
Convincing web monkeys that they know how to program.
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Oh goodness. Where to begin?
It has nothing to do... now let me repeat this part... nothing to do with the fact that it's Apple and the iPhone. It's got everything to do with the fact that Flash is a very intrusive technology, is inefficient in the way it runs on many computers and is completely overhyped and overused by a horde of web developers who don't know any better way to achieve certain effects than stampeding toward the Flash icon in their Dock.
Want to see what I mean? Go find some page with a Flash thing embedded with links in it and right-click on the link to open it in a new window. What happens? Nothing. You can't right-click it. You can't Apple+click it to open a new tab. You can't right-click to bookmark. Why? Because Flash is its own self-contained little world that doesn't play well with the browser and I, personally, hate that. I despise it. I hated it when it was Java applets doing that to me in the late 90s and I hate it now that it's Flash.
And it has @#$%*-all to do with Apple other than the dim hope I have that Apple will have the fortitude to launch the iPhone into a formidable new platform without ever bringing that sad sack of technology detritus called Flash over to it. And perhaps that will pave the way for others to realize how completely unnecessary Flash really is.
Dont blame them ...the only "flash" they know are the flash ad banners (most of the time really annoying )
Flash is really a GREAT tool for developers , designers. online artists, illustators, comic artists etc etc.
I'm running an older MacBookPro 17" 2.33, so it's not as efficient as the newer Intels. It eats up 80 - 85% CPU. I tried it on my PC, which is a 45nm Quad and it uses 2 - 3% CPU.
Even if they cut it in half, it only works in Safari right now, so it has a long ways to go.
Well look at the big brain on Eric. And the big feckin mouth too. Since you're so smart, perhaps you can do a nice little screencapture and put a bigass red circle for us drooling retards, where it gives you the option to just use tabbed browing, and open all links in tabs instead of windows, without having to hold down modifier keys to tell it to use a tab on every single link you ever click ever. No you can't, because the option doesn't exist. It's not simpler, nor more convenient to have to use two hands and two devices just to navigate pages in a freakin web browser.