How are citizens supposed to use the free Wi-Fi without free MacBook Pros and iPhones? It's outrageous that Apple didn't promise them to all Californians in exchange for us letting them operate in our state.
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Cupertino Councilwoman Asking Apple For Free Wi-Fi Was An Inside Joke
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Not enough "i's" in Wifi
Maybe if the Council agreed to officially change the name to iWifi then Steve would have been more receptive!
Maybe if the Council agreed to officially change the name to iWifi then Steve would have been more receptive!
You should see some city council meeting from around the country. Quite often you see inside jokes made that them and jokes made like that. Sadly the internet and the Apple worshippers see it as a reason to bash them or miss it because they are missing the back ground info so you get 1 million views because it is well SJ but again the back ground info is missing so people take it out of context.
I have been to a few city meetings in different places and you see jokes that out of context seem pretty bad but when you know the context (like this one about free wifi) you understand that it is nothing more than a joke.
Gracious enough? Lol, you are a good example as to why people think most users on this forum have a steve jobs shrine in their house.
iWi...
Stuff free wifi, isn't it about time Apple launched their own global alternative and walked away from the phone networks?
I can't see the networks being too happy about FaceTime and iMessage eroding their profits, all Apple needs to add now is iTalk and a blanket wifi alternative exclusively for iOS devices and they've totally taken over the market
Stuff free wifi, isn't it about time Apple launched their own global alternative and walked away from the phone networks?
I can't see the networks being too happy about FaceTime and iMessage eroding their profits, all Apple needs to add now is iTalk and a blanket wifi alternative exclusively for iOS devices and they've totally taken over the market
WONG people working for council
IMO Cuppertino has the WONG people working for them on council, and they ask all the WONG questions. It was embarrassing to see them stumble over their tongues, and ask questions and make statements that a fourth grader would do a better job of.
IMO Cuppertino has the WONG people working for them on council, and they ask all the WONG questions. It was embarrassing to see them stumble over their tongues, and ask questions and make statements that a fourth grader would do a better job of.
I found the exchange amusing, but I also picked up on the Google reference regarding free wi-fi in Mountain View immediately. I think the ones who are pretending to be offended by her comment aren't from the bay area and don't understand the local tech rivalries.
The new Apple campus looks great and the grounds look like a huge nature park, I can't wait to see it in person.
The new Apple campus looks great and the grounds look like a huge nature park, I can't wait to see it in person.
May have been a joke, but SJ wasn't laughing, and the whole City Council, came off like idiots!
The councilman who used to be an HP employee seemed competent. He should run against Lloyd for mayor!
Fair
I think Apple shouldn't have to provide free wi-fi. This is something that needs to happen in all cities around the US anyway, and companies should not be involved in that. I think, like Jobs said, the property tax should suffice. Oh yeah, let's not forget the job oppertunities and the new revinue from employees that are moving to Cupertino.
I think Apple shouldn't have to provide free wi-fi. This is something that needs to happen in all cities around the US anyway, and companies should not be involved in that. I think, like Jobs said, the property tax should suffice. Oh yeah, let's not forget the job oppertunities and the new revinue from employees that are moving to Cupertino.
Absolutely. She really overestimated the intelligence of her audience. A fatal mistake for any politician.
Not the council in my opinion.
More like a case of Americans having no sense of humour.
Some council members were a little obsequious toward Steve Jobs, and instead of making frivolous requests, they should have asked the same questions of him that they would ask of any major (no-name) developer. An example is the lack of follow-through on Jobs' reply to the traffic question, that employment would only be increased by 20%. That's 20% more people on the roads.
Although this is a preliminary meeting, it is one of the city council's jobs to alert a developer to legitimate concerns over potential impacts, so the developer can address them prior to formal submittal. Many issues were addressed, but I would like to have heard how Jobs intends to address potential traffic congestion, or at least acknowledge the concern. Apple's bio-diesel busses certainly help mitigate traffic concerns, but is that enough. I was just curious, and would rather hear those issues addressed than whether they will provide free wi-fi.
By the way, I thought his answer to that was perfect. Taxes support infrastructure development, and if the city wants to supply free wi-fi infrastructure, they can find a way to do that. On the other hand, I thought Jobs' indicating he would pull out of town if the project wasn't approved is typical big-corporation bullying. Not saying it was a threat, nor am I saying that it's not an effective tactic; I just think he should have left that one for the cost-benefit write-up in the proposal instead of saying it in a public forum. This was not the meeting to argue for approval, so keep it positive. Every good developer knows this.
Although this is a preliminary meeting, it is one of the city council's jobs to alert a developer to legitimate concerns over potential impacts, so the developer can address them prior to formal submittal. Many issues were addressed, but I would like to have heard how Jobs intends to address potential traffic congestion, or at least acknowledge the concern. Apple's bio-diesel busses certainly help mitigate traffic concerns, but is that enough. I was just curious, and would rather hear those issues addressed than whether they will provide free wi-fi.
By the way, I thought his answer to that was perfect. Taxes support infrastructure development, and if the city wants to supply free wi-fi infrastructure, they can find a way to do that. On the other hand, I thought Jobs' indicating he would pull out of town if the project wasn't approved is typical big-corporation bullying. Not saying it was a threat, nor am I saying that it's not an effective tactic; I just think he should have left that one for the cost-benefit write-up in the proposal instead of saying it in a public forum. This was not the meeting to argue for approval, so keep it positive. Every good developer knows this.
Apple to provide free wifi
They should!
Being allowed to earn the kind of money they do in OUR society. They should be kissing OUR feet.
Nice products, not cheap, but where's the love for the fellowman?
They should!
Being allowed to earn the kind of money they do in OUR society. They should be kissing OUR feet.
Nice products, not cheap, but where's the love for the fellowman?
Wow, that's totally socialist... in a free market society, the market can elect not to support their products if they disagree with their lack of "care for the fellowman" ...
...and, in a free market sense, they do "kiss our feet" by following the adage that the "customer is always right." Apple has world class customer service and, in my experience, treats their customers extremely well. The notion that they owe us something because they are successful is quite frightening to me. The notion that they owe non-customers something other than what they pay in taxes is anti-free market and anti-democratic.
Were you just joking?
The city should provide free wifi. However on Apple's campus, they should have a few public access points for use with Apple products.
I am surprised that Apple doesn't have a company store setup somewhere. Or a Genius Bar, with 'guest Geniuses' to see how users are breaking their products.
I am surprised that Apple doesn't have a company store setup somewhere. Or a Genius Bar, with 'guest Geniuses' to see how users are breaking their products.
I don't even understand why the council consists of Asia-born people who have "English as their third language". Honestly, the council looks like the Apple KIRF headquarter or some subsidiary of Foxconn.
I didn't know Bernie Madoff was on these forums...
Frightening - lol
Anti-free market - pure capitalism has done this country sooooo well (there's your joke, a sad joke really)
Anti-democratic - no, anti-republican/right wing. Earning mega-profits At your fellowman's expense is NOT democratic - it's a crime against humanity.
They do owe US - big time. We, the people, through Government, make the laws as a privilege, not a right, for corporations to exist and earn (and we bail-out these private enterprises too when they are mismanaged by so-called financial managers - GM has paid back its debt since Public/Government management stepped in).
So don't for a freakin' millisecond think they don't owe us anything. Innovation can still exist without extreme financial gain - heck, who was the first man in space...
Right. They should all be native Americans.I don't even understand why the council consists of Asia-born people who have "English as their third language". Honestly, the council looks like the Apple KIRF headquarter or some subsidiary of Foxconn.