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What a bad headline, in that it suggests the M1 iMac somehow falls short of our better-than-Intel expectations. In fact, the M1 iMac does no such thing. Had this been presented as a cool custom mod (which the text makes clear is what this actually was), those interested could appreciate the comparison and the achievement. Of course, that also would mean this no longer is a suitable front page story.
 
same power consumption as the processor it replaced both TDP 65w
Same “rated” consumption. In stress tests the M1 uses maybe 24W (https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested). The i9 is using more than 65W, unless you do a hard limit of it’s draw. Some people have it up to 235W during stress tests (source below because MR wants to embed the whole post). It's more complex than that but the i9 is not only using 65 watts. Intel just guarantees a certain frequency at a certain minimum power draw.

This is a little like Apple saying we get 60 miles per gallon but in reality they get 150+ while driving full throttle at full speed. Intel says they get 60 but really only get 15-30 at full throttle. And the performance is similar. Which processor are you going to choose?

I think this modification of the iMac is great though.

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Boy, the apple faithful seems a little defensive here. The issues are twofold. 1 - The M1 chip has great battery life - oh wait this is a desktop, so who cares? Mediocre graphics for a desktop which we do care about. 2 - The $1299 config is a joke. The $1499 is a bit better config but still a joke. This desktop has no USB-A. No SD-Reader. No HDMI. A very very nice screen. Ugly white bezels. Ugly chin. About $400 too much. Way too high an Apple tax on this baby.
 
Boy, the apple faithful seems a little defensive here. The issues are twofold. 1 - The M1 chip has great battery life - oh wait this is a desktop, so who cares? Mediocre graphics for a desktop which we do care about. 2 - The $1299 config is a joke. The $1499 is a bit better config but still a joke. This desktop has no USB-A. No SD-Reader. No HDMI. A very very nice screen. Ugly white bezels. Ugly chin. About $400 too much. Way too high an Apple tax on this baby.
But Timo said its the best *insert apple product* ever created..

..and we love our customers.
 
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Most of this conversation reminds me when I was in high school and the kids would argue which is best…Ford or Chevy. Well my 1.5 turbo four is fast enough for me. No need to spend a ton of money for something quicker or faster. Those who always think they must have “the best” will never be content with what they have.
 
No more customs for me...
I walked the hackintosh way for 7 years, and it was fun, but never again...
The constant tinkering, the continuous teoubleshooting, the unnverving waiting for patches and new releases, the kernel panics, the bugs, glitches and so on...

Back then I couldn't afford a mac, so I'm glad the hackingtosh was a choice, but now I can finally afford actual macs and it's so nice.
 
necropsychguy, Sir, if I hire you as my shrink would you stop disagreeing my posts?
 
Same “rated” consumption. In stress tests the M1 uses maybe 24W (https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested). The i9 is using more than 65W, unless you do a hard limit of it’s draw. Some people have it up to 235W during stress tests (source below because MR wants to embed the whole post). It's more complex than that but the i9 is not only using 65 watts. Intel just guarantees a certain frequency at a certain minimum power draw.

This is a little like Apple saying we get 60 miles per gallon but in reality they get 150+ while driving full throttle at full speed. Intel says they get 60 but really only get 15-30 at full throttle. And the performance is similar. Which processor are you going to choose?

I think this modification of the iMac is great though.

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I was referring to the i5-7400 he replaced with the i9-9900 same tdp
 
It’s nice to know that you can do this with the older iMacs, but the 9900 is just going to get btfo whenever 8 performance core Apple Silicon chips appear. The M1 is closer to a quad core because of the big/little split, so it should be no surprise that it loses to a 9900 in some benches. But on the other hand, if you have an older iMac, this is a nice upgrade. Reminds me of upgrading my old 2008 iMac to a 3.06 Core 2 Duo back in the day.
 
I can't watch the video. Could someone please tell me where the $1.250 for the 21,5 iMac is coming from?
 
okay? Some guy dropped a **** load of money and time to do a mod and it just barely out performs the new entry level

I know. Why done people get it? M1 is the only processor out. The i9 competitor is NOT OUT YET. The M1 is Apple’s equivalent to an i3 and low end i5. Yes, a latest i9 or the best threadripper would obviously be better. Why is this such a shock?
 
LOL, what a ridiculous and ignorant response.

Apple charges $200 to upgrade from 256GB SSD to 512GB.

$70 for Samsung 250GB SSD: https://www.newegg.com/samsung-250gb-980-pro/p/20-147-788
$120 for Samsung 500GB SSD: https://www.newegg.com/samsung-500gb-980-pro/p/N82E16820147789

A $50 difference, but Apple charges $200.

Both Samsung SSDs are also significantly faster than Apple's SSD.
You’re like a word salad and PC Part picker all in one…

Bottom line…I. DON’T. CARE. You’re wasting your time here. I just bought a Samsung 860 SSD to put into my 2011 Mac mini, so I already know what prices are, but I digress.

Feel free wasting your time speccing out Hackintoshes or whatever. I’m not comparing Macs and PCs in my purchase decisions. I’ll Basecamp or VM if I really need Windows, as I already have those set up. But I don’t care what Apple charges for these upgrades.
 
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