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This is not a forum for hackers. So I will not explain how it will be possible to hack your info using this method of payment. All I will say to those who fill safe using this method do not be surprise when this happens, if Apple even own up to breaches. I am aware of methods how hackers can get your info from this. Whether this is reasons why these stores decide to stop offering this form of payment to customers I do not know. I CAN SAY this is not as secure as they (Apple) would have customers to believe.

Thanks for NOT explaining it then.
 
Good luck using this method. You of all people should be caution using any payment method that is untested. Ask yourself do you really trust this after what happen to you with Home Depot.

What? Do you even know what happened at Home Depot and what caused it to happened?
 
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Good luck using this method. You of all people should be caution using any payment method that is untested. Ask yourself do you really trust this after what happen to you with Home Depot.

I trust tokenization which was NOT built by apple, but built by the credit card companies who have suffered very few breatches themselves because they employ grey and black hats and have a larger vested interest in security. If the Visa network is compromised this would be larger than large.

So in short I don't give a crap if a script kiddy somewhere compromises the payment terminal I am using and steals my onetime use token. Have fun with my useless cryptographic hash. Even with the key it is worthless unless they are embedded in VISA's servers which would mean they can take all of their money anyways. Ask any European with chip and pin how they are dealing with compromises. Oh that's right, doesn't really ever happen because that target is too hard to hit.
 
Looks like MacRumors is going to milk this topic dry by posting a dozen overlapping topics - - just like they did when they promoted the fake bending story.

People reported their phones bending. And this is a far bigger story than that.

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MCX mobile payment system may perhaps turn out better and even have superior features when it debuts than Apple Pay - who knows?

But to disable a funding stream that is operational now (and as another said "from affluent customers who can afford to buy latest iPhone" ) has to be the commercial equivalent of shooting oneself in the foot.

Come on CVS and Rite Aid, let Apple Pay bring you big $$ until your possibly better MCX comes on line next year - then let the best (or both) mobile payment system(s) win.

My RX choice is now Walgreens.

You fire up an app and scan a QR code with your camera. Sounds like a delightfully simple experience compared to me resting my thumb on the touch id sensor.
 
Not accepting money seems like a poor business decision.
It will be interesting to see how this works out for them.

They are rejecting a form of payment, they are not rejecting money. Its not a poor decision when they'll have a competing product in its place.
 
New York times is reporting on it now? My guess is within a few days they will all re-enable it because it is quickly becoming a national issue and not losing thousands of customers/stopping negative press will become more important than trying to stop competition of their crappy payment system.

I seriously doubt that. Mind you I think you will be right long term: CurrentC is guaranteed to tank. But, those stores have signed contracts with MCX. They are contractually obliged to block Apple Pay. Until either MCX is no longer a going concern, or the find a way to wriggle out of their contract they are stuck. Neither will happen overnight. Might take years.
 
Looks like MacRumors is going to milk this topic dry by posting a dozen overlapping topics - - just like they did when they promoted the fake bending story.

Uhm what do you expect? MR's servers have to waste valuable storage for crappy comments like yours. I mean they have to get more money in somehow for those wasted storage right? It's all business man.
 
They are rejecting a form of payment, they are not rejecting money. Its not a poor decision when they'll have a competing product in its place.
It is a poor decision because their "competing product", CurrentC is so bad that it absolutely going to go down in flames. I can see the customers lining up to give retailers direct access to their checking accounts now...instead of paying with a CC where they are getting miles/cash rewards for every dollar spent, and don't have to pay their bill until a month later.
 
MCX mobile payment system may perhaps turn out better and even have superior features when it debuts than Apple Pay - who knows?

It won't be better since it requires access to your checking account. Credit Cards offer great fraud protection and in the case of fraud your available credit come back very fast. If your checking acct gets cleaned out fraudulently it is a painful, and not short process to get your cash back.
 
They are rejecting a form of payment, they are not rejecting money. Its not a poor decision when they'll have a competing product in its place.

It doesn't compete at all. CrappyC is nothing like Apple Pay. Read up on it.
 
They are rejecting a form of payment, they are not rejecting money. Its not a poor decision when they'll have a competing product in its place.

They are rejecting Apple Pay. The users who are early adopter that use Apple Pay, I bet they are excited about Apple enough to be DETERMINED to use Apple Pay. CVS and Rite Aid rejected Apple Pay. Customers bring their business elsewhere. That's basically rejecting money. Have you ever had a business class?

Every decisions that drive down sales and/or create a backlash to the publicity of a company is a poor decision. I'm not saying what CVS and Rite Aid did is a poor decision because we need more data on the whole thing, but don't you jumping the gun on how it's NOT a poor decision, ok?
 
You will not explain or you just don't know jack-poop about anything? Also you need to learn some vocabularies. How do I value anything you said when you don't even know the meaning of the words you typed?

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What? Do you even know what happened at Home Depot and what caused it to happened?

I love this. Ha Ha Good luck.
 
Good luck using this method. You of all people should be caution using any payment method that is untested. Ask yourself do you really trust this after what happen to you with Home Depot.

Yes. Because Home Depot did not involve tokenization. Even if you hack Apple pay there is nothing useful to get. A hacker can't use a token. It is worthless. In home depot, tokens weren't used. So Apple Pay is not the same at all.
 
This is not a forum for hackers. So I will not explain how it will be possible to hack your info using this method of payment. All I will say to those who fill safe using this method do not be surprise when this happens, if Apple even own up to breaches. I am aware of methods how hackers can get your info from this. Whether this is reasons why these stores decide to stop offering this form of payment to customers I do not know. I CAN SAY this is not as secure as they (Apple) would have customers to believe.

I'm an Astronaut, a secret agent and have the cure for cancer. But since this is not a NASA, MI6 or pharmaceutical forum, I prefer not to explain...

:rolleyes:
 
This is not a forum for hackers. So I will not explain how it will be possible to hack your info using this method of payment. All I will say to those who fill safe using this method do not be surprise when this happens, if Apple even own up to breaches. I am aware of methods how hackers can get your info from this. Whether this is reasons why these stores decide to stop offering this form of payment to customers I do not know. I CAN SAY this is not as secure as they (Apple) would have customers to believe.

Ok Mr 4 Posts. You have zero idea how this works do ya? There is nothing to hack. No names / numbers or anything are transmitted. A Token is transmitted that is it.

And it's behind a pin and fingerprint. It is far and away the safest method of transferring money readily available.

The CurrentC Application is an utter joke. and they are talking about using QRcodes to transfer money...

So you have to get out your phone open the app. take a picture of a receipt or a screen of a QRcode - enter a pin and make the transaction... and it bearly works. It's what mobile payment were 10 years ago in in the UK.
 
They are rejecting a form of payment, they are not rejecting money. Its not a poor decision when they'll have a competing product in its place.

It's not a poor decision only if they succeed in getting their competing product to be successful. Given the very poor reviews I read about CurrentC it seems it will be not so easy.

On top of that, successful or not, in a free market the competing products are supposed to, you know, be allowed to compete so that consumers will decide which one is the best, without the hassle of changing shops or having to adapt to the shop's whims.

If you have to ban competing products to protect your own offer maybe your offer is not good enough (and this is true for some Apple's offers too).
 
But then again, the majority of customers who are early adopter of a new kind of payment and setting up the app would be one who like to have the newest tech. The one who doesn't have the newest tech wouldn't bother getting to know CurrentC at all. Why should they bother when they are completely fine with using cash and cards? How to make payment, is a habit. Some people use cash, some use cards. If they are not the group who are really into technology, they wouldn't change their habit for CurrentC.

You can say that NFC is not even popular, nor a human right. But to the customers who are aware of Apple Pay (which I think the numbers are growing, since The New York Times is covering the story), they have a choice to be angry at CVS and Rite Aid. The businesses don't owe us customer anything, but this is as old and normal as any business cases. If you can't offer or don't want to offer something I want, I will bad mouth you with everyone I know and move my business elsewhere. Word-of-mouth is a double-edged sword.

Not true at all. Normal consumers will sign up for anything if there is something in it for them. MCX stores can offer customers extra discounts and benefits for using there system. Just take a look at out "loyalty cards" dominate the retail landscape. MCX is just a 2014 version of that + payment features. It won't be so hard to get consumers to sign up if the marketing is "carrot and stick."

NFC has to regroup and counter this attack with its own vigorous promotions to encourage customers to use its system. Word of mouth isn't enough when people's pocketbooks are involved. Only the geekiest are going to pay a premium to use NFC.
 
To be honest the SEC should make it illegal to Limit the ways to pay. it's Creating a monopoly and limiting choice.

these companies have closed all methods of payment with an NFC chip so all the NFC cards, Google wallet etc as well as Apple Pay.

People forget their wallets... but they may still have their phone.
 
I seriously doubt that. Mind you I think you will be right long term: CurrentC is guaranteed to tank. But, those stores have signed contracts with MCX. They are contractually obliged to block Apple Pay. Until either MCX is no longer a going concern, or the find a way to wriggle out of their contract they are stuck. Neither will happen overnight. Might take years.

The thing is....those stores ARE MCX.....MCX is a consortium of the stores, so if there is enough uproar they can change the conditions that they are holding themselves to.

I wonder if the bigger retailers in the consortium (Wal-Mart) get a bigger vote than the smaller ones? In any case RiteAid and CVS have got to be a bit irritated that their names are getting dragged through the mud as the faces of the consortium while Wal-Mart and others hold them to the MCX terms.
 
To be honest the SEC should make it illegal to Limit the ways to pay. it's Creating a monopoly and limiting choice.

these companies have closed all methods of payment with an NFC chip so all the NFC cards, Google wallet etc as well as Apple Pay.

People forget their wallets... but they may still have their phone.

Thats just not possible. They cant make it illegal to refuse accept nfc payments because they still accept cash and cards. Next step is to sue your local farmer because he just accepts cash (has no card register) for buying eggs
 
Not true at all. Normal consumers will sign up for anything if there is something in it for them. MCX stores can offer customers extra discounts and benefits for using there system. Just take a look at out "loyalty cards" dominate the retail landscape. MCX is just a 2014 version of that + payment features. It won't be so hard to get consumers to sign up if the marketing is "carrot and stick."

NFC has to regroup and counter this attack with its own vigorous promotions to encourage customers to use its system. Word of mouth isn't enough when people's pocketbooks are involved. Only the geekiest are going to pay a premium to use NFC.

I can tell you right now that people will use systems that offer discounts first and foremost, consumers are constantly on the look out for the best bargains, ask your wife's or girlfriends which system they would use, one because it has a fruit logo or one that can offer discounts.
So you hit the nail on the head here.
 
One way to protest is to download their CurrentC app, give it a 1 star rating, then delete it. It's being done by members of other websites too, and the app currently has a 1 star overall rating with an overwhelming number of negative feedback.
 
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