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Their prescription pickup app is actually incredible.

The pharmcist scans it and you are done. No need to spell your name, verify your date of birth, or sign the terminal. You use your finger to sign the little box within the app itself. It is a nice time saver and works very well.

As much as a like Apple Pay, if they allow that single barcode scan to also charge the copay to my credit card, that will actually be faster than having to use Apply Pay.
 
The thing that pisses me off is that it's not even optimized for the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus lol. Why do these companies continue to ignore these newer phones?
 
I get what they are doing here, its integrating the need for tracking with the ability to pay. Why not accept other electronic payment types like Apple Pay and see which one the customer prefers.
Isn't that a sole purpose of ALL Loyalty Programs?..to track so that they can target their market better? My keychain got too full of all of those stupid tags and I've since thrown them all in the garbage. The should make the tracking be an option, like it always has in the past. If they want offers targeted to there buying habits, then they should opt in, otherwise quit trying to reinvent the wheel.
 
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I've been going to Walgreens and more recently to Rite Aid as well when they reversed their position and started accepting Apple Pay. Haven't missed CVSucks one little bit...
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I love Apple Pay. That being said ... I use the Starbucks app all the time, and it works fine.

I can understand a company wanting to maintain control of the information from *its* customers.

What a pain though for *every* company to roll out their own "payment app".

And, tap to pay is so insanely simple.


Yes, but the difference is that despite having their own system, Starbucks also accepts Apple Pay because that's what customer service is. Something CVSucks seems to be completely clueless about...
 
Who wants a separate app for EVERY store they visit just to use a mobile payment? And it's not even a quicker or more convienient solution.

If your phone doesn't have NFC, it's more convenient.

Which is exactly why barcodes are used for boarding passes instead of NFC. More phones support barcodes.

Of course, if Apple opened up NFC to everyone, then a store app (and the airlines) could use either method. Then each app would be very convenient, since iOS could be set up to launch each store's app when it sees that store's token card... and that app could also take extra measures depending on your award memberships.

Wrong.

Apple doesn't take any money from merchants who accept  Pay.

No, not directly, but if you think about it a second, you'd realize that the lack of identification during a purchase means that the stores now have to pay the banks to get access to that information.

That's one reason why banks are willing to pay Apple a royalty. It keeps them in the catbird seat, and able to wring extra money from merchants.

Since the merchants have to pay more from that perspective for an Apple Pay purchase, then yes it does cost them.
 
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Yep, it used to be that you had to have made cash to spend cash, not any more, you can spend whether you have cash or not. This is great for the mega corporations and the spend, spend, spend governments.
Well, others keep the cash in the bank and use a Debit card. Carrying too much cash is no longer safe, no matter where you are.
 
Which is exactly why barcodes are used for boarding passes instead of NFC. More phones support barcodes.

Technically all smartphones support barcode, but that's not the real reason airlines use it

The airlines use barcodes because in 2005 IATA developed a global standard for barcode boarding passes. They added mobile support in 2008. Having a barcode on the phone screen allows them to accommodate phones without adding NFC readers to the barcode scanners, which would be a very costly across a global network of airport gates and ticket counters. Not to mention all of the US TSA screening stations which would also need it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar-coded_boarding_pass
 
After currentC suspended their efforts, I tried using Apple pay at CVS and it works. Have done it several times since. Surprised this hasn't been reported.
 
You'd think that all merchants would want to offer as many straightforward payment methods to take customer payments. What is the point of road blocking when it comes to receiving payment for goods or services?

Because they don't want just the customer, they want all the information on them too so they can resell it.
 
No, not directly, but if you think about it a second, you'd realize that the lack of identification during a purchase means that the stores now have to pay the banks to get access to that information.
1: Why do stores need to identify customers?
2: What justification do banks have to sell that information? Do banking regulations even allow that?
That's one reason why banks are willing to pay Apple a royalty. It keeps them in the catbird seat, and able to wring extra money from merchants.
First I hear. To my knowledge the banks agreed to Apple's terms because Apple Pay reduces fraud (due to the biometric authentication), which reduces the banks' costs.
 
I think you may be confusing what the cashier does with what the customer has to do.
"The associate will scan the barcode, ring up the purchases, let the customer choose a stored payment method, and then process the payment."

I think you're also confusing the customer with CVS processes.
"... new barcode-based mobile payment solution that integrates payment, prescription pickup, and its ExtraCare loyalty program into a single scan at checkout."
The sentence is clunky but it's trying to convey that all those singular processes would be integrated into that one scan.
- Thanks. But I don't believe I'm confusing anything. It isn't really important who's doing the scanning. The important thing is how many scannings of barcodes and how many steps are involved during the process of using the app.

The first bit I quoted implies that in order for me to pickup a prescription and pay for it, only one barcode and one scanning is involved. Meaning that that barcode has to contain both information about the contents of the prescription and about my payment method.
The second bit implies at least two distinct scannings as well as the manual selection of a payment method: first the scanning of a barcode in the app to identify the items I am purchasing, then manual selection of a payment method in the app, and then the scanning of a second barcode corresponding to my selected payment method.

Sounds convoluted.
 
I didn't know this was supposed to be "One Payment system to rule them all" type.

Apple wants their users to think like they do.

For me,, i'll just use whatever dam well system i like :) Scanning a QR code, while technically not as secure, whatever is still better than flashing that green cash in someone's face, or fiddling through a was of plastic cards.

Now they just fiddle through apps.
 
No it isn't. If you don't want 'the man' to track your every move and the ad slingers to know everything you buy then use cash.
I use Apple Pay to reduce my Card ( and thus the tracking) use but I actually buy more with cash these days than I did 5 years ago.

Good for you. I use my Apple watch for groceries and gas. That covers 90 percent of my purchases.
 
1: Why do stores need to identify customers?

Stores want to cater to their customers. The easier they make it for you to find what you want in the store, means more money for them, and greater convenience for you.

Part of that effort is building a profile (age, address, etc) on customers, so they can guess what kind of products you'd like most in the future, and where to place them. It also allows them to send you customized ads that induce you to buy.

Note that in the old days when people shopped nearby, this same profiling was done by the store proprietor, who knew you and your family very well. Today's mobile buyers and temp employees makes this much harder to happen.

(This whole recent purchase privacy fad is silly. Most of us belong to store and card award programs precisely because we want custom deals. More importantly, we appreciate being noticed and catered to. That's why we go to the same stores and the same restaurants. When I go into my car dealer, I expect to get a better deal because they know me. When I go into my favorite eatery, it's nice to hear "Hi Mr. Darling! We'll give you your favorite seat and food!" When I go to the pharmacy, I like that the pharmacist makes special exceptions for our family and speeds things up. Only kids and crooks want to be anonymous, IMO.)

2: What justification do banks have to sell that information? Do banking regulations even allow that?

The banks themselves can't do it. But... the key is in the fine print of that privacy letter you get each year from your banks. It states that unless you opt out, they can share info with their close partners. Well, guess what kind of companies those are.

They don't sell detailed info to the merchants. That would diminish its value. (This is the same reason that merchants don't sell your info, either. It's more valuable if kept secret. So all the worries about that are bogus.)

Instead, they do like Apple does with iAds, or Google with Google Ads... they sell anonymous targeted ad spots. They'll also send out targeted coupons, and if that coupon gets used at a store, the merchant has to pay $1.50 to $5.00 to the bank. That can add up.

First I hear. To my knowledge the banks agreed to Apple's terms because Apple Pay reduces fraud (due to the biometric authentication), which reduces the banks' costs.

If you only hang on Apple sites, it's understandable that you think that. Try joining electronic payment industry sites as well, to get a better background on what's actually going on, what the banks really think, and what they had to agree to with Apple (such as giving back information on purchase categories and other statistics).

As for fraud savings, what Apple charges is more than what contactless fraud costs. In the UK, twenty times as much. Even in Australia, it's about five times as much, IIRC. That's one reason why the UK, Canadian and Australian banks balked at paying what Apple wanted, along with Apple wanting formerly proprietary data.

Remember, banks make money because of fraud. The risk they take approving a purchase is exactly why they're able to charge such high fees and make such high profits. If there was no risk, the fees would be questioned (which is already beginning to happen in Congress).

Not to mention that Apple is only able to charge because they only allow NFC to be used by themselves. That grates on the banks too, because if they could use NFC and TouchId in their app, they'd have no reason to pay Apple. Apple is basically holding the banks' customers hostage.
 
Do people shop at CVS enough that they would want to configure yet another Pay App? I know I don't.

We (I, my wife and kids) spend thousands of dollars a year on medicines and other things at CVS.

Which is why getting back hundreds of dollars in awards and special deals makes us happy :)

If I can pick up meds without a signature with a CVS app. then you bet I'll use it.

Just wait until you're older and need drugs (legal ones) more often :D
 
I am always amazed by the unnecessary technology being invented. Just swipe your credit card. Done.

I'm amazed that we use signatures for verification. I'm amazed we hand our credit cards to strangers with the number right on the card when paying for dinner at a restaurant. I'm amazed we give strangers credit card numbers over the phone.

The way we pay with credit cards needs to change.
 
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Stores want to cater to their customers. The easier they make it for you to find what you want in the store, means more money for them, and greater convenience for you.
Yes. This is why they offer loyalty programs. It doesn't mean that they can simply buy your personally identifying information from the banks, as you insinuated.
(This whole recent purchase privacy fad is silly. Most of us belong to store and card award programs precisely because we want custom deals. More importantly, we appreciate being noticed and catered to.
Speak for yourself. I avoid most loyalty programs like the plague, and I certainly don't feel a need to be "noticed" by a merchant (or flooded with their stupid ads).
The banks themselves can't do it.
You're contradicting yourself. Above you wrote this:

"No, not directly, but if you think about it a second, you'd realize that the lack of identification during a purchase means that the stores now have to pay the banks to get access to that information."

But... the key is in the fine print of that privacy letter you get each year from your banks. It states that unless you opt out, they can share info with their close partners. Well, guess what kind of companies those are.
Well, for one I always opt out, and I live in a state that has strict limitations when it comes to sharing information with non-affiliates. And second, I really doubt that simply tunneling the personally identifiable information through some other company absolves them of the privacy regulations.
Instead, they do like Apple does with iAds, or Google with Google Ads... they sell anonymous targeted ad spots. They'll also send out targeted coupons, and if that coupon gets used at a store, the merchant has to pay $1.50 to $5.00 to the bank. That can add up.
Yes, but that's not what you were talking about above.
As for fraud savings, what Apple charges is more than what contactless fraud costs.
If that is the case the banks obviously made a bad deal. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
 
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