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This is hilarious as CurrentC will become the WiMAX of mobile payments. While NFC will be today's LTE!!! Apple and Google Wallet aren't sweating this move. LOL!!! This a drop in the bucket for NFC.
 
Mastercard and Visa along with Apple and Google will push for more NFC, not less. That's a lot of muscle right there. All Mastercard and Visa have to say to the merchants is if they remove NFC, they pay more. Most people will not turn over the bank account numbers to MCX. This is just the first shot across the bow.

MCX may end up using tokenization, and maybe even NFC, who knows. If it gets popular and does support NFC, Apple will probably end up supporting it.
 
The problem is that CurrentC will never, ever take off. Merchant apps have existed for ages. No one wants the inconvenience of downloading an app, loading your payment info, and then going through the steps at the cash register, all the while knowing that your payment habits are being mined by companies.

So CurrentC will eventually disband.
Meanwhile, companies that blacklisted NFC will have lost revenue during this period.

In the end, NFC adoption via Apple Pay becomes the standard (although takes a little bit longer due to resistant retailers), but ends up creating more revenue for companies that already support it (i.e.: Walgreens, Macy's, Whole Foods, etc.)

For apple pay to succeed they need retailers not just card companies and banks. The biggest Company apple has under their list is mcdonalds but nfc payments been taken at mcdonalds for years now. Why did apple jump in the nfc payment late in the game? because they need a little establishment. The places apple listed has been taking NFC payments long before apple pay was even announced. Until apple announce some big name retailers, apple pay isn't going anywhere fast.
 
The ironic thing is that solutions like Apple pay and Google Wallet actually helps increase profit at retail stores. All stores lose a certain percentage of profit due to fraud. It also costs money to prevent fraud. Similar to how most of the world (except the U.S.) has implemented chip and pin cards and greatly reduced credit card fraud, NFC payments (especially with fingerprinting) makes fraud even harder. Even if CVS and rite aid has partnered up with this other payment system, anyone that doesn't use it will be forced to use a normal credit card. Every time a normal credit card is used, they are now subjected to increase fraud that they are liable for. It just doesn't make sense why they are not implementing both systems. Their goal should be to reduce the number of traditional credit card usage.
 
LOL - Starbucks's App is incredibly popular and used. And their customers don't feel inconvenienced.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

Next time you want to spout out some ridiculous fact out of the air, do everyone a favor and post a reference to an article

The reason that people put up with the Starbucks app is because that's a simple way of getting the rewards points.

The app is definitely more inconvenient than Apple Pay.

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As long as it uses NFC, I don't see why that can't use both systems.


Applepay doesn't work with Adriod phones, I'm sure some system will come along for them.

Edit: Opps.....I didn't know about Google Wallet...apparently there are other competing payment methods.
 
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LOL - Starbucks's App is incredibly popular and used. And their customers don't feel inconvenienced.
True. And the reason why it's so popular is primarily the Starbucks rewards program. This is the strength of the MCX system as well. It will integrate with loyalty programs. If the app is implemented well, I could see it becoming popular. However, personally I would prefer Apple Pay (and similar systems) to succeed because of the better privacy protections and security. I'm not a fan of signing up to dozens of loyalty programs.
 
I find it ridiculous that people are so emotional about this that they will refuse to shop at CVS.

Are you that tied to your iPhone and it's brand new purchasing capabilities that now you can never ever shop at a place that doesn't support that payment.

Seriously?

Wow.

What people say they'll do in a showboating display of faux "disdain" and drama on the internet, I very much doubt they'll follow through with in REAL life, as a majority. The worst thing to happen to news articles was enabling the masses to type a reply... because everyone HAS HAS HAS to pull up to the platform on their ego train, so everyone can have a good look at what they're saying - they're then hoping "passengers" will climb on board, so they have a captive audience for their views, as they are driven to the "destination" that noone ever seems to arrive at.
 
This is upsetting. I shop at CVS all the time. I hate Walgreens because they don't have self-checkout, and the sales at CVS are better. I'll still shop there, though, ApplePay or not.
 
who thinks the CC companies give a discount in the future for contactless payments due to lowered risk profile. This will effectively kill ConnectC

No, contact payments will be widely accepted but contactless likely will not in the US. If you are not enabled for contact payments next October, you're in a world of hurt.
 
I find it ridiculous that people are so emotional about this that they will refuse to shop at CVS.

Are you that tied to your iPhone and it's brand new purchasing capabilities that now you can never ever shop at a place that doesn't support that payment.

Seriously?

Wow.

It's not about them not supporting a specific platform - it's the anti-consumer behavior and approach they have taken.

It has proven that Apple Pay is the most secure (to date) way to pay with a credit card. Yet CVS doesn't feel our data should be "secure", so they disable NFC technology - a STANDARD.

Yes, I won't shop at CVS anymore. I have the luxury have going to Wal-Greens, right next door.
 
The ironic thing is that solutions like Apple pay and Google Wallet actually helps increase profit at retail stores. All stores lose a certain percentage of profit due to fraud.
There is little reason to assume that the MCX system will be less secure. It also uses a form of tokenization, although it's cloud- rather than device-based. It will allow the merchants to easily track and datamine your purchases though.
 
Here's the thing.

Stores can opt to not support Apple Pay.
You don't have to support those stores.
But then complaining about some other format of payment they will take is ridiculous. No one is forcing you to use THAT form of payment either.

Hey hey! Keep logic out of here!

This should be interesting....watch their business go down in flames.

Yes. Not accepting Apple Pay will make their business go down in flames. :rolleyes:

I don't think anyone's going to notice. lol you think 16 pages on a thread is a big deal compared to the rest of America? Hint: it's not.

People tend to over emphasize their importance.
 
In the end, NFC adoption via Apple Pay becomes the standard (although takes a little bit longer due to resistant retailers), but ends up creating more revenue for companies that already support it (i.e.: Walgreens, Macy's, Whole Foods, etc.)
Apple's implementation is currently more convenient than others, but the standard is not Apple's.

You can use NFC contactless with Google Wallet, with NFC cards issued by the bank, and eventually with some of the kickstarter cards we've seen that allow you to store several cards on one NFC enabled card. Nothing stops Windows phone from having its own system, or any of the smart watch vendors from having NFC chips in their wearables that can store CC info.

Of the ones I've seen so far, I like Apple's best due to the combination of authentication, security, and ease of use. I don't expect Apple to maintain that advantage forever, though, and there are still ways it could be better.

I don't see CurrentC becoming any kind of enduring standard.
 
I don't think anyone's going to notice. lol you think 16 pages on a thread is a big deal compared to the rest of America? Hint: it's not.

People will show their preferences by shopping for convenience. Must people will not post on MAcRumors as they don't even know about it. However people know they want when shopping and people that own iPhone6
Want to surely use ApplePay
 
You keep saying that with absolutely no grounds ... no one is being banned from shopping at any store. Credit cards, debit cards, and cash are accepted.

What do you think would happen if Apple and Google banned MCE's app from their app stores? MCE's payment system would have no chance to survive and they would resort to legal action, to be sure. Why should this be any different?
 
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People will show their preferences by shopping for convenience. Must people will not post on MAcRumors as they don't even know about it. However people know they want when shopping and people that own iPhone6
Want to surely use ApplePay

I own a 6+ and don't use Apple Pay. Not everyone who owns a new iPhone wants to use Apple Pay.
 
The bottom line is this- NFC was great before Apple Pay, and Apple was so far behind the times because they didn't have it. Now that Apple has a chance to make NFC mainstream, many of the same people that were shouting the praises of NFC are suddenly sympathetic to companies that are disabling it.

That is to say, some people would rather see NFC fail than see Apple succeed with it. Truly, truly remarkable.

This.
 
Apple pay users are a fraction of a fraction of a percent of these companies consumers. If most retailers follow this example, apple pay won't have much use. What good is protecting my credit card number at 1/10 the places I shop? I'm very frustrated with credit card theft and the USA is really fighting the solution for some reason. Visa/mc hold the power and the risk. They can force acceptance to some degree I would imagine.
 
Many are saying they will not shop at CVS, which is their right. Are these same people going to stop shopping at Best Buy, Target, Kohls, Wal Mart, Lowes, Sears, etc? If not, then nothing has been achieved.
This may actually be good news for your mom and pop stores in your town. When they upgrade their equipment next year, they will likely add NFC. So if the chains won't support it, support your local merchants. Keep the money in town.
 
pay them in pennies. go to the bank, get some rolls of pennies and empty them out. take them to anyone who is shutting off apple pay and pay them in pennies

way better than an unofficial boycott that won't work
 
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