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I'm not sure that MCX actually are banning contactless in their contract since Meijer is an Apple Partner. I think it may be more an unwritten agreement not to accept contactless that Meijer is either oblivious to or defying.

Maybe, MCX realized they were screwed and way behind and this is a ploy to get Apple to buy them. I hear Apple has a warehouse in Arizona they could use to manufacture terminals. :)
 
Definitely agree. It's greed. That's what Apple was discussing in their keynote when describing it. They didn't look at the money aspect of it.. primarily focused on making it user friendly. But, instead of letting customers decide... retailers are practically taking the choice away from customers. I definitely plan on doing what one commenter advised....

Go to one of these non-apple pay retailers... Grab tons of products and allow the cashier to ring up everything. And when it's time for payment.. and the cashier says it doesn't support Apple pay.. cancel the whole thing. Brilliant!

This is stupid, ineffective, and just being an ass. How about not shopping there and actually calling corporate to tell them why you are not shopping there? That will be far more effective if people did that. Hell, spreading internet memes and making it very well known on the net will have more effect.

Do you really think corporate cares about a cashier complaining about sucky customers (suck it up, it's your job!)? They care more when customers actually put in effort to call them and tell them they are unhappy (after all most customers won't put the time in so every customer who does means there are others who also agree with him).

On top of that, you just make everyone who agrees with you look bad because then people stop sympathizing with you when you look like an ass. Who wants to associate themselves with some crazy guy who is willing to go out of his way to make some poor wage slave's job harder (a wage slave who had nothing to do with the policy).
 
It is actually perfectly correct. The percentage of total Apple Pay enabled iPhones will go up so that in 3 years time, the majority of the iPhones in adult consumers' hands will have Apple Pay.

Don't forget that next year, the 6/6+ will be the "discount" phone, and the 5C/5S will fall off for an updated model that will most likely support Apple Pay. It could be as soon as next year that Apple won't sell a phone that can't use Apple Pay.

So what? I have a 6+ and don't use Apple Pay. I know a ton of people with the 6/6+ who don't use Apple Pay. Just because the phone supports that feature doesn't mean everyone is using it.
 
Mastercard and Visa along with Apple and Google will push for more NFC, not less. That's a lot of muscle right there. All Mastercard and Visa have to say to the merchants is if they remove NFC, they pay more. Most people will not turn over the bank account numbers to MCX. This is just the first shot across the bow.
 
I find it weird that companies would want to block Apple Pay. I would think that eventually, all stores will have to get with the program.

Similarly, the US carriers tried to block Google Wallet on Android phones so that we would be forced to use their dopey mobile credit card "ISIS". In the end, it made NFC useless on our phones, as consumers don't want to use crappy, bloatware products provided by carriers and we couldn't use GW.

I really wonder if this will lead to a court battle at some point. Is it legal to disallow one form of payment over another that are both utilizing the same technology? I don't know of any stores that only take Visa cards and not Discover cards, for instance. In the end, I think the free market will push everyone towards adoption of Apple Pay. Openly defying Apple is bad business, IMO.

There are plenty of places that don't accept Discover or AmEx, but accept Visa and MC.
 
Don't just complain in the forum, complain to CVS and Rite Aid!

http://www.cvs.com/help/email-customer-relations.jsp?callType=store&topicid=200018

and

https://www.riteaid.com/customer-support/contact-us


If they get a FLOOD of complaints, they will surely reconsider. Share these links everywhere!

REMEMBER, be POLITE! Do NOT use profanity. Do not make "ugly" threats. Simply tell them you are disappointed and frustrated they have decided not to support Apple Pay. Tell them that you disapprove of this decision and that you'll be shopping at Walgreens (they have embraced Apple Pay) until such time as CVS/Rite Aid reconsider.

Mark

This is the more proper response. This will get a lot more respect and a lot more people who will sympathize with you rather than just see people complaining as a bunch of crazy's/asses.
 
I bet NFC and apple end up suing MCX.

The stores don't have to use NFC so I don't believe Apple could sue. I'm not sure of what agreement NFC has with MCX so NFC might be able to sue. I'm sure Apple would pay for any lawsuits against MCX :D.

Most people will not turn over the bank account numbers to MCX.

I'm curious what would happen in the case of fraud ? Does MCX expect the banks to refund the customers for any fraud ?
 
The problem is that CurrentC will never, ever take off. Merchant apps have existed for ages. No one wants the inconvenience of downloading an app, loading your payment info, and then going through the steps at the cash register, all the while knowing that your payment habits are being mined by companies.

LOL - Starbucks's App is incredibly popular and used. And their customers don't feel inconvenienced.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

Next time you want to spout out some ridiculous fact out of the air, do everyone a favor and post a reference to an article
 
I use Apple Pay because it's a secure form. If CVS wants to make a ******** move and be anti-consumer, I will not shop there anymore as I do not want my credit card information to be exposed to potential security breaches.

CVS, I thought we were friends. But you cheated on me with another NFC provider. :(
 
Even if MCX eliminates or greatly reduces "merchant fees", it will be hard to compete with Paypal or Bitcoin or any of the services that use direct ACH. MCX is simply one brand and implementation of ACH.

ACH attaches to your bank account directly, with different fraud protection than offered by CC firms. Probably more similar to that offered using debit cards.

I would have a totally separate bank and account for such transactions so my deposit accounts and payroll accounts are entirely separate and safe.

I doubt more than 20% of its users will have the capacity and knowledge to employ that security. That means people's primary bank accounts will be linked.

From all these merchants:

Walmart
Publix
Best Buy
Target
Lowes
Dillards
Kohls
Bed Bath Beyond
Kmart
Micheals
Meijer
Sears
Gap
Old Navy
Banana Republic
Shell
76
Exxonmobil
Circle K
7-11
Dunkin Donuts
Rite Aid
CVS

Rocketman
 
... literally had customers from everywhere on earth yet it was the yanks that still sign their receipts. Why? I have no idea, as I sure as hell can't be bothered checking the signature.


Not by choice, at least not the choice of those individual yanks. We barely have banks beginning to issue EMV cards. When they do, most are NOT Chip & PIN, but Chip & Signature. Further, most of these, I believe, are not NFC capable. Even the one chip & pin card I have still is encoded to run as chip & signature, despite its having a PIN.

Our banks seem unable to realize that if we travel, we run a good chance of needing to use automated kiosks which are not signature-capable (fuel, tickets, etc). The FAQ answer? "Our card does not have a PIN. Simply ask the merchant to provide a receipt for you to sign."

As for checking the signature? Perhaps 1 out of 50 cashiers here do so. Probably 1/4 to 1/2 ask for ID. Possibly half of those actually look at the ID. Possibly half of those look at it closely enough to determine whether it bears a reasonable likeness.

Little known tidbit - per the processing agreement, merchants may not require an ID if your card already has your signature on the back.
 
Isn't CVS one of the ISIS/Softcard partners? They can't shut off NFC completely and still support that....
 
CVS Stores Reportedly Disabling NFC to Shut Down Apple Pay and Google Wallet

You clearly don't understand the issue. This is about draconian business practices, not about being able to buy something. Many of us care about how and where we spend our money. I don't give money to companies with whose policies I disagree. Judging by others here, many feel the same way and you are in the minority.


Lol okay buddy whatever you say. I was actually referring to the people who are blatantly saying they are refusing to shop at Cvs and rite aid because they dont accept nfc payments. Or the guy who said hes going to take all of his items to the cashier and attempt to use apple pay and if refused hes just going to walk out. Are you reading what others are saying or did you just try to make your argument sound better by responding to me?
 
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Here's the thing.

Stores can opt to not support Apple Pay.
You don't have to support those stores.
But then complaining about some other format of payment they will take is ridiculous. No one is forcing you to use THAT form of payment either.
 
LOL - Starbucks's App is incredibly popular and used. And their customers don't feel inconvenienced.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

Next time you want to spout out some ridiculous fact out of the air, do everyone a favor and post a reference to an article

I don't use the Starbucks App because I don't drink coffee. But isn't the Starbucks App different in that you can only pay with if you loaded funds onto your Starbucks card?
 
From Merchant Customer Exchange' wikipedia

"The company is led by merchants such as 7-Eleven, Inc.; Alon Brands; Best Buy Co., Inc.; CVS/pharmacy; Darden Restaurants; HMSHost; Hy-Vee, Inc.; Lowe's; Michaels Stores, Inc.; Publix Super Markets, Inc.; Sears Holdings; Shell Oil Products US; Sunoco, Inc.; Target Corp. and Wal-Mart Stores, Inc."

Expect more companies to retract NFC use with Apple Pay and Google Wallet in next days.

"The company intends to make their application available on all major smartphone platforms."

We'll see who's laughing when their solutions get turned down in an equal move from iOS and Android. Good luck gaining marketshare with your precious payment solution for Windows Phone, Blackberry and Palm!

*jots down the list* Got it, thanks! No Apple Pay = no pay.
 
The problem is that CurrentC will never, ever take off. Merchant apps have existed for ages. No one wants the inconvenience of downloading an app, loading your payment info, and then going through the steps at the cash register, all the while knowing that your payment habits are being mined by companies.

So CurrentC will eventually disband.
Meanwhile, companies that blacklisted NFC will have lost revenue during this period.

In the end, NFC adoption via Apple Pay becomes the standard (although takes a little bit longer due to resistant retailers), but ends up creating more revenue for companies that already support it (i.e.: Walgreens, Macy's, Whole Foods, etc.)

He world in general is moving away from standards, and more toward having several big conglomerates pushing various technologies/systems. If MCX is accepted everywhere and I can spawn a Passbook pass that either uses visual scanning like Starbucks' does, or taps into NFC if/when Apple opens it up, I really don't care. My main goal is to pay by phone -- if having a couple different payment systems on my phone happens, so be it.

And FYI every time you use a credit card today, your data is being mined. Same goes for every time you scan a loyalty card. He credit card companies and/or merchants are already ending up with your customer payment data. They know more about our spending habits than we do ourselves. We've already crossed the Rubicon.
 
Oh I will be boycotting those places too! And if you have read the some 16 pages. There are plenty boycotts and that's just those that have voiced their opinions here. Many have not and will be going to Walgreens!

I don't think anyone's going to notice. lol you think 16 pages on a thread is a big deal compared to the rest of America? Hint: it's not.
 
Seriously, not every business wants to be assimilated into the Apple collective.

You assume that businesses are as juvenile as the posters on here. They don't look at Apple and seethe with hatred as some of the people in this thread are doing. It's purely a financial decision, one that negatively affects every consumer that wants to use NFC to process transactions.
 
I don't think anyone's going to notice. lol you think 16 pages on a thread is a big deal compared to the rest of America? Hint: it's not.

Correct. I did send CVS an email letting them know about their anti-consumer practice.

It's not about them knowing, per se, but that I sleep better at night knowing that my dollars don't support them.

I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and that makes me feel good.
 
who thinks the CC companies give a discount in the future for contactless payments due to lowered risk profile. This will effectively kill ConnectC
 
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