CVS Stores Reportedly Disabling NFC to Shut Down Apple Pay and Google Wallet

[caesarp]

Oh I think I understand it quite clearly.

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Actually your posts show a deep lack of understanding the issues in this thread. You think it's about Apple Pay. And people whining cause it's not available. It's not. Its about a retailer turning off NFC as a dick move to thwart all NFC payments including Apple pay. Such actions should piss off any consumer, even if they never intend to use Aapple Pay, since it takes away consumer choice. You can ignore that if you like, but then your posts lack any merit or grasp of the subject. Thanks for playing though.

 

[bruinsrme]

Apple and google should remove all CVS Apps from their app stores.

I agree and every other company that doesn't give apple and Google a pie of their pie.
How about these merchants charging Google and Apple for the POS transactions. Every time apple pay is used the Apple pays the merchant .005%.

 

[sshambles]

Let's see, who owns who? Oh, wait... Disney owns Pixar... ooops

Yeah.... now they do.

 

[BruiserB]

CVS Stores Reportedly Disabling NFC to Shut Down Apple Pay and Google Wallet

Disney would still be here and quite relevant without Pixar. The fact that they had the ability to purchase Pixar instead of the other way around shows which company was in a more powerful position.



That's like saying that Apple was saved when they purchased Beats. The reality is that Beats is fortunate that they got purchased instead of being squashed.

But Apple was saved when it purchased NeXT.

 

[QuiteSure]

Easy win

Apple and Google don't want to ban the CurrentC app from their stores? Ok, then just say anything customers buy with the app constitutes an in-app purchase and charge 30%. Game over.

 

[caesarp]

but when the new system comes online which will presumably use NFC (and be much less secure) I am sure apple pay will work again

No it won't use NFC.

 

[AllieNeko]

It's a little more nuanced than that. That is implied. The fact that Walgreens a competitor already supports ApplePay means I can be a payment snob as it relates to the drug stores I frequent. Up until now I was going to all of them. Now I will just go to Duane Reade/Walgreens. It's cleaner anyway.

Exactly, CVS is a dump. They're building a brand new CVS here, but I guess I won't be in it if contactless is going to be disabled.

 

[iapplelove]

Exactly, CVS is a dump. They're building a brand new CVS here, but I guess I won't be in it if contactless is going to be disabled.

I'm upset with CVS too lol but I wouldn't call them a dump, maybe some older stores but for the most part they are far more upscale than Walgreens. In the northeast CVS is dominant and their stocks are climbing

 

[snberk103]

....
Those who receive constant e-mails from Apple based on purchase history, the movies you watch on your Apple TV, the music you listen to from your own private library in iTunes, etc. is just a small tiny example. It grows significantly as you get into iPhone apps, music / video downloads, etc. Everything you involve Apple in, even if you think it's just using content on your own machines is archived. Even their recent search features pull data.......

I get a couple of emails from Apple a month at most. Supposedly from Apple that is - because most of them aren't really from Apple, they're just spam disguised to look like they're from Apple.

Hope you can figure how to stop the spam flow... that's gotta be annoying.

 

[AllieNeko]

CVS's decision is unfortunate and disappointing. However, it doesn't affect me much. I don't own an iPhone 6 yet, and I don't usually shop there. I prefer Target since their prices are generally a bit lower. Unfortunately, Target doesn't support Apple Pay either...

Same reason, Target is part of MCX as well. Target's terminals are completely capable of supporting Apple Pay (the new ones they got for the EMV shift, they'll be turning on EMV next year with new register software, they have contactless support and that's also turned off).

What I don't understand, even more, are the non-MCX members like Barnes & Noble and ULTA who have contactless turned off (ULTA didn't used to...). Yes, debit fees for contactless may end up slightly higher, but not enough to justify driving off customers really...

 

[CEmajr]

Apple can simply ban their app from the AppStore once it does finally go live. The effectively cuts them off from the majority of US smartphone users (especially the higher income ones).

Of those drug stores, I never shop at CVS anyway because their prices seem outrageously inflated for almost all products. Walgreens is the only one that I use and this makes the decision to continue shopping there an easy one.

Seems like this is primarily about those retailers wanting to have access to customer data since Apple Pay wasn't charging them an extra fee or anything.

 

[Popeye206]

I think this is all temporary… retailers are trying to protect their investment in the other system, but will soon cave as they realize… they just want the sales. This whole thing is stupid… but a growth thing.

 

[CEmajr]

these are multibillion dollar companies they don't care about if you shop there or not

Guess again on that one. How do you think they came to be multibillion dollar companies?

 

[osofast240sx]

Calm down bro, no need to get mad.

Google Samsung Microsoft HTC LG stradgize their product launches around Apple. They feature Apple products in their commercials. All the financial news channels report on Apple 7 days a week. Apple retail stores are mimicked. The list goes on

 

[cdmoore74]

Apple pay will never replace physical cards/cash. Too many factors out of Apples control. What a waste of NFC technology.

 

[BruiserB]

I'm not going to go into a 30 year history lesson by the week here... Intentional ignorance doesn't erase the obvious.



Those who receive constant e-mails from Apple based on purchase history, the movies you watch on your Apple TV, the music you listen to from your own private library in iTunes, etc. is just a small tiny example. It grows significantly as you get into iPhone apps, music / video downloads, etc. Everything you involve Apple in, even if you think it's just using content on your own machines is archived. Even their recent search features pull data...



As for lying... seriously... anyone who's been through Apple's never ending denial strategy, will be very familiar with this habit.



Apple is the heaviest mass marketer of email spam based on mined information that I've ever seen. I get numerous e-mails from them every day, all targeted based on what I've watched on my Apple TV streamed from my own hard drive on movies which were not even purchased from Apple.



My junk e-mail account gets dozens of emails from Apple for every 1 message I get from any other entity in the world. They are far more aggressive in their marketing than Target, and Kroger, etc. who I use store club cards for, and yet never harass me with promotional messages and targeted emails. Now, spitting out coupons based on what I just purchased doesn't bother me. Sending me a dozen e-mails a day based on what I watched from my own hard drive that didn't come from Apple, yeah, that's a little invasive. I'm just glad Apple only has my junk e-mail account.

Please post an email from Apple that you received based on what you watched on your AppleTV streamed from your hard drive. My Google spam filter (I'm a fanboy but don't use iCloud mail) must be trashing all the ones Apple sends me. ;-)

 

[osofast240sx]

Apple pay will never replace physical cards/cash. Too many factors out of Apples control. What a waste of NFC technology.

but it nice to have the option, so no not a waste.

 

[AllieNeko]

I'm upset with CVS too lol but I wouldn't call them a dump, maybe some older stores but for the most part they are far more upscale than Walgreens. In the northeast CVS is dominant and their stocks are climbing

I'm in Missoula, MT and the local CVS is unmaintained and ancient. They're building a brand new one close to the current one (opposite end of the same strip mall, where it'll literally be a 30 second walk from Walgreens as opposed to the current one minute walk).

 

[tdar]

I thought Apple Pay could also be used to manage customer loyalty cards?

Passbook can be used. Even though that is the app pay is in, they are different.

 

[cdmoore74]

Google Samsung Microsoft HTC LG stradgize their product launches around Apple. They feature Apple products in their commercials. All the financial news channels report on Apple 7 days a week. Apple retail stores are mimicked. The list goes on

Didn't Steve Jobs criticize large Android phones? They now make a phone taller than the Note series that started it all. Who's copying who right now?

 

[satcomer]

Not true--they pay fees to their merchant services provider for processing Apple Pay transactions. They just don't pay anymore than they would if a traditional card was used.

What most people are forgetting (except some users here hadn't) is the hacks of your information at stores saving all the card info, your home address, phone number. These werenightmare hacks that expose retailers tech equipment is outright re and store ALL this info in PLAIN TEXT! So zone of use geeks (even Linux users) are moving back to traditional cash. The current state of retailer ineptness with our personal data is scaring the heck out us!

NFC, Apple Pay and Google Wallet use of NFC looks like a cool use to get around this problem because the retailers never get to store your information. App,e Pay goes one step further by denying the retailer to see ANY information and this scare them.

 

[cjcampbell]

This is the kind of corporate backbiting that has thwarted adoption of any of these payment systems.

Very well, if they don't want to be paid until sometime next year, I won't pay them until sometime next year.

 

[BruiserB]

CVS Stores Reportedly Disabling NFC to Shut Down Apple Pay and Google Wallet

Now that would be a viable marketing strategy. Assuming that enough people had iPhone 6's to make a difference.



But, if enough retailers passed on said discounts to customers, then it could increase desire for the iPhone 6. As it is right now, they can't give them away. As I mentioned, on the free iPhone 6 upgrade day at my cellular provider, it was totally dead. Not so for the Motorolla's, but at this point, the only one's that they can get to take the iPhone 6 right now are the one's in the low-income program, and that's just because they don't have a choice what phone they get.



People aren't lining up for the iPhone 6 right now. Most people I know are just content with the iPhone they already have, and kinda feel "blah" about the new one. Or, if they buy a new phone, they're going Samsung or Motorolla.



I really expected to see a packed store on the free iPhone day, it's always been packed on every free phone day. But, it was dead for the iPhone 6 upgrade offer. That was the fastest I've gotten to a customer service rep in over 5 years.



And, I didn't take the new iPhone 6 either, despite it being free. I considered the bending issue, and the fact that I abuse my phones like crazy and need a tough one, and that I didn't feel like buying new protective cases.



On the plus side, my iPhone 5 is still in good shape despite getting tossed or dropped several times a day. It survives being in my pocket with boxes and such pressed against it as I move stuff, it survives getting sat on, thrown on the counter from several feet away, whatever... So, the iPhone 6 just doesn't seem like a great choice for me. And, I suspect likewise for others.



But, if Apple gave the stores a kickback, and the stores passed some on to the customers, I could see iPhone 6 use increasing. And, perhaps something might happen there. Discounts are where you'll get the customers, and that is the strength in the Target and Kroger models. And, likewise, the strength is the proposed CurrentC.

Yep, Apple just had a record quarter and the stock is at an all time high because they can't give away enough iPhone 6's.

Oh and this "fanboy" isn't all that impressed with the new iPads. My 6 Plus is good enough for casual browsing and I actually sold my iPad mini and picked up a refurbished Acer chromebook for $150 from eBay. Oh and the horror, I paid for it with PayPal. The chromebook is pretty cool actually. I think Microsoft may be on the right track with the SurfacePro, but I'm guessing Apple again may be the one to eventually merge the laptop and tablet experience most elegantly.

Finally, it's spelled "Motorola" with one L.

 

[xSeaside]

I'm not going to go into a 30 year history lesson by the week here... Intentional ignorance doesn't erase the obvious.

Those who receive constant e-mails from Apple based on purchase history, the movies you watch on your Apple TV, the music you listen to from your own private library in iTunes, etc. is just a small tiny example. It grows significantly as you get into iPhone apps, music / video downloads, etc. Everything you involve Apple in, even if you think it's just using content on your own machines is archived. Even their recent search features pull data...

As for lying... seriously... anyone who's been through Apple's never ending denial strategy, will be very familiar with this habit.

Apple is the heaviest mass marketer of email spam based on mined information that I've ever seen. I get numerous e-mails from them every day, all targeted based on what I've watched on my Apple TV streamed from my own hard drive on movies which were not even purchased from Apple.

My junk e-mail account gets dozens of emails from Apple for every 1 message I get from any other entity in the world. They are far more aggressive in their marketing than Target, and Kroger, etc. who I use store club cards for, and yet never harass me with promotional messages and targeted emails. Now, spitting out coupons based on what I just purchased doesn't bother me. Sending me a dozen e-mails a day based on what I watched from my own hard drive that didn't come from Apple, yeah, that's a little invasive. I'm just glad Apple only has my junk e-mail account.

Stop stating your opinion as a fact. You have no proof of Apple being worse than Google or Microsoft when it comes to data mining.

You are obviously at fault here because as mentioned there's an option to unsign from Apple's promotional emails.

If you're really paranoid about your data being collected, you might want to use an app called "Little Snitch", which let's you monitor every in- and outgoing connection on your Mac.

 

[davew41]

In this day and age, and this economy, it amazes me how these places can justify loosing any amount of money to their investors.

Loads of people ONLY pay with a credit card, and if they want to use ANY NFC based system it of course is their right.

I use Google wallet, I use apple pay, I use Paypal all are NFC based with no issues.

ins't this in a way monopolizing by refusing to take a certain payment method and forcefully turning off a setting on a program because they are developing their own system it there not some thing illegal about this?