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"OK, something happened to me. I don't know if I can play Starfield any longer, there is just something that is grating at me about the story. I was currently working on the Crimson Fleet quests and I'm just not feeling this game any longer." That Said...
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I eagerly turned to Cyberpunk 2077 DLC, Phantom Liberty and discovered that this is a quest chain located within the main story, and I wanted to know how it changed the base story and HOLY CRAP, I might just be pissed off because I like the (imo) "best ending", with V heading off with the Aldecados to start a new life. I'm not happy that the Devs instead of extending the original story out, decided to screw with the base story. This is kind of ****ed up.
How Phantom Liberty Changes the Base Game Ending - Cyberpunk 2077 Guide - IGN
As you make your way through Cyberpunk 2077's Phantom Liberty expansion, you can unlock a secret ending for the base game. However, in order to do this,
Everyone seems to be saying, "play though to the end and then go back and do Phantom Liberty."
So my impression is that if you pick the "new ending" included with the DLC you throughly destroy the best ending and what I want to do is to play the DLC and preserve the best ending. I assume this is possible, ie avoid the "Tower Ending"?
Thanks!
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The operation was a success, but it's not all well. You're alive, sure, but the life you once knew—can't have that back.
You later wake up in what seems like an FIA-operated hospital in Langley. Reed will be the first person you speak to since the operation.
He'll explain everything that though the operation was a success, you lost the ability to use any Cyberware, thus ending your career as a Night City merc.
On top of that, the operation that initially called for several weeks of rehab actually put you in a coma for two years.
As you try to reach your friends, V soon realizes the world they once knew is no longer the same.
Misty's shop is long gone and is replaced by a Zetatech cyberware store.
During the check-up, Vik will confirm that he can do nothing about your Chrome-less situation.
As two street thugs attack you for money, you run into Misty, who helps you get up. Before leaving for an ancient forest in Poland, she tells you that she's convinced you'll figure out your life no matter what.
The scene ends with V walking into a crowd, continuing life as just another face in the crowd.
The operation was a success, but it's not all well. You're alive, sure, but the life you once knew—can't have that back.
You later wake up in what seems like an FIA-operated hospital in Langley. Reed will be the first person you speak to since the operation.
He'll explain everything that though the operation was a success, you lost the ability to use any Cyberware, thus ending your career as a Night City merc.
On top of that, the operation that initially called for several weeks of rehab actually put you in a coma for two years.
As you try to reach your friends, V soon realizes the world they once knew is no longer the same.
- Viktor thought you had died after disappearing for two years. He'll tell you to visit his clinic to see if the no-chrome situation is true.
- Panam has left NC, and her number is no longer operational. You can only leave her a voicemail.
- River needed money for Randy's rehab, so he sold a ton of police secrets to Trauma Team. He'll refuse to see you.
- Kerry's career is even more prominent now, but he'll be too busy to see you.
- Judy will be glad to hear that you're alive, but she's now married to a girl named Bianca and living in Pittsburgh.
Misty's shop is long gone and is replaced by a Zetatech cyberware store.
During the check-up, Vik will confirm that he can do nothing about your Chrome-less situation.
As two street thugs attack you for money, you run into Misty, who helps you get up. Before leaving for an ancient forest in Poland, she tells you that she's convinced you'll figure out your life no matter what.
The scene ends with V walking into a crowd, continuing life as just another face in the crowd.
So this is what I want to know. Can you play this DLC and maintain the original endings? Maybe it was right there in front of me, if I go back and reread the article. 🤔
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Phantom LIbery Spoiler: This is what I found online regarding available endings (Unconfirmed):
At the end of PL you are offered the cure. You have to make a phone call to Reed if you want to accept it. If you accept it, the game will be over. If you want to keep playing, finish open quests, or use one of the main games endings, don't call Reed to schedule the surgery. Instead go see Hanako at Embers for the main game endings.
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Phantom Liberty DLC before finishing the main quest or after? :: Cyberpunk 2077 General Discussions
I am planning on doing a new playthrough of Cyberpunk and want to know the best way to enjoy new DLC Should I do 1) Start Main Quest -> Start Phantom Liberty -> Finish the main quest and DLC OR 2) Start Main Quest -> Finish main quest -> Start and finish Phantom Liberty DLC I am wondering if...
I’ve started the Phantom Liberty quest. First based on an existing save, I had to reconstruct the new skill tree, and found that based on my progress in the game, I could find no police encounters anywhere in the city to practise these skills. It’s like these (police) encounters are limited, and they are used up and go away as the player completes them.
So I went to Dog Town and started progressing through the quest, and I’m finding combat awkward. Things, like movement don’t work as I instinctively remember them. Not helping is a frequently dark, cluttered, junky environment where obstacles are hard to see and get in my way.
There is also a large mech you have to fight, but if you did not have the wisdom to pre-equip a “weak spot” cybermod, going can be tough to get though this fight, which I have not yet completed. Still trying to figure out why sometimes my movement is fast, and sometime it slows down to what feels like a crawl.
Personally, I don’t like how this DLC was inserted into the middle of an already existing storyline. 🤔
I did notice that in this 2.0 update, something new, if you have picked up Judy as a girl friend, you can now invite her over to your apartment, to chat, cuddle, kiss, and dance with. This social interaction almost gives you a reason to have an apartment, unlike before. I always wondered why you have a bed, and can choose to sleep, but I don’t remember ever getting fatigued and never was forced to sleep. You might think a game like this when not in the middle of an important quest would include a fatigue meter, that demanded at times, you take some time to rest up? 🤔
So I went to Dog Town and started progressing through the quest, and I’m finding combat awkward. Things, like movement don’t work as I instinctively remember them. Not helping is a frequently dark, cluttered, junky environment where obstacles are hard to see and get in my way.
There is also a large mech you have to fight, but if you did not have the wisdom to pre-equip a “weak spot” cybermod, going can be tough to get though this fight, which I have not yet completed. Still trying to figure out why sometimes my movement is fast, and sometime it slows down to what feels like a crawl.
Personally, I don’t like how this DLC was inserted into the middle of an already existing storyline. 🤔
I did notice that in this 2.0 update, something new, if you have picked up Judy as a girl friend, you can now invite her over to your apartment, to chat, cuddle, kiss, and dance with. This social interaction almost gives you a reason to have an apartment, unlike before. I always wondered why you have a bed, and can choose to sleep, but I don’t remember ever getting fatigued and never was forced to sleep. You might think a game like this when not in the middle of an important quest would include a fatigue meter, that demanded at times, you take some time to rest up? 🤔
Some Phantom Liberty Plot Spoilers here…
Don’t read if you don’t want to know.
I think I’ve become a curmudgeon in my old age and have set this DLC aside. After some significant progress in the DLC, I suddenly came to the realization that although I’ve enjoyed Dog Town, I don’t like how the main quest seems extremely important to devote all your attention to, yet the game throws all these other minor quests at you, like go steal some cars for me….
Based on my research, I do not care where this DLC story leads, because I’ve completed this game 3 times, I know the ending I want, (through research), the ending I don’t want (this DLC) and that this is just a detour, some busy work inserted in the middle of the original story that takes away from the main flow of the story as I have come to know it, possibly love it. A certain choice here can short change the original story, and I already know, I’ll politely decline the offer of a cure at the end of this DLC, because I don’t want to alter the original ending that I prefer. 🤔
I don’t have a problem with the rebuild of the skill tree as per update 2.0, but, I’m really down on the idea of plugging this DLC into the original game. I acknowledge that not all will agree with me.
There is a reason you’ll read comments like “play though the original game first, and then via restart/skip ahead or revert to a saved game in the right spot to play Phantom Liberty”. It’s because this DLC screws with the original game, a certain choice here, cuts off other original endings. You maybe ok with that, because you always by your actions, chose a single ending, and you may prefer the new ending the DLC offers. My research indicates at least to me, that the new ending in the context of the story is a downer, although you are cured, you just lose everything else as far as relationships and your abilities.
Btw, after setting aside Phantom Liberty, and starting up Skyrim Enhanced version (at a midpoint where I left it to to play Starfield), I was awash in good vibes. Maybe I’m assimilated. That is how powerful the Elder Scrolls environment can be. The music is a significant mood addition to environment. Gosh, I’m even thinking about a redo of Fallout 4, again!
Don’t read if you don’t want to know.
I think I’ve become a curmudgeon in my old age and have set this DLC aside. After some significant progress in the DLC, I suddenly came to the realization that although I’ve enjoyed Dog Town, I don’t like how the main quest seems extremely important to devote all your attention to, yet the game throws all these other minor quests at you, like go steal some cars for me….
Based on my research, I do not care where this DLC story leads, because I’ve completed this game 3 times, I know the ending I want, (through research), the ending I don’t want (this DLC) and that this is just a detour, some busy work inserted in the middle of the original story that takes away from the main flow of the story as I have come to know it, possibly love it. A certain choice here can short change the original story, and I already know, I’ll politely decline the offer of a cure at the end of this DLC, because I don’t want to alter the original ending that I prefer. 🤔
I don’t have a problem with the rebuild of the skill tree as per update 2.0, but, I’m really down on the idea of plugging this DLC into the original game. I acknowledge that not all will agree with me.
There is a reason you’ll read comments like “play though the original game first, and then via restart/skip ahead or revert to a saved game in the right spot to play Phantom Liberty”. It’s because this DLC screws with the original game, a certain choice here, cuts off other original endings. You maybe ok with that, because you always by your actions, chose a single ending, and you may prefer the new ending the DLC offers. My research indicates at least to me, that the new ending in the context of the story is a downer, although you are cured, you just lose everything else as far as relationships and your abilities.
Btw, after setting aside Phantom Liberty, and starting up Skyrim Enhanced version (at a midpoint where I left it to to play Starfield), I was awash in good vibes. Maybe I’m assimilated. That is how powerful the Elder Scrolls environment can be. The music is a significant mood addition to environment. Gosh, I’m even thinking about a redo of Fallout 4, again!
I just played Phantom Liberty for vibes and giggles after completing the main question twice. The DLC offered precisely what I wanted, more of the same but better with new mechanics and smarter enemies.Some Phantom Liberty Plot Spoilers here…
Don’t read if you don’t want to know.
I think I’ve become a curmudgeon in my old age and have set this DLC aside. After some significant progress in the DLC, I suddenly came to the realization that although I’ve enjoyed Dog Town, I don’t like how the main quest seems extremely important to devote all your attention to, yet the game throws all these other minor quests at you, like go steal some cars for me….
Based on my research, I do not care where this DLC story leads, because I’ve completed this game 3 times, I know the ending I want, (through research), the ending I don’t want (this DLC) and that this is just a detour, some busy work inserted in the middle of the original story that takes away from the main flow of the story as I have come to know it, possibly love it. A certain choice here can short change the original story, and I already know, I’ll politely decline the offer of a cure at the end of this DLC, because I don’t want to alter the original ending that I prefer. 🤔
I don’t have a problem with the rebuild of the skill tree as per update 2.0, but, I’m really down on the idea of plugging this DLC into the original game. I acknowledge that not all will agree with me.
There is a reason you’ll read comments like “play though the original game first, and then via restart/skip ahead or revert to a saved game in the right spot to play Phantom Liberty”. It’s because this DLC screws with the original game, a certain choice here, cuts off other original endings. You maybe ok with that, because you always by your actions, chose a single ending, and you may prefer the new ending the DLC offers. My research indicates at least to me, that the new ending in the context of the story is a downer, although you are cured, you just lose everything else as far as relationships and your abilities.
Btw, after setting aside Phantom Liberty, and starting up Skyrim Enhanced version (at a midpoint where I left it to to play Starfield), I was awash in good vibes. Maybe I’m assimilated. That is how powerful the Elder Scrolls environment can be. The music is a significant mood addition to environment. Gosh, I’m even thinking about a redo of Fallout 4, again!
Sorry for probably repeating myself…
The way I approached it, was not having played in possibly a year, load in a save and instead of going into the “point of no return” restaurant (in relationship to the main story), I took the Dog Town quest, which takes you completely out of the pressing issue in your life, has the potential of killing other endings pertinent to the main story, and I’m thinking the next time I play this though from the beginning, most likely I’ll ignore Dogtown. Sure saving the President is important, but really, they plopped this into the middle of the main quest, you know, you’re fighting for your life? 🧐
The mission does apparently affect endings but I did Dog Down immediately after finishing my second play through. For me, it doesn't matter when it's played, middle or ending, it's an awesome expansion either way with jaw dropping visuals.
See that’s the thing, play it *after* a playthough. They just plopped it in, in the middle when it might have been better to make this a prequel to the Main story…🤔
Wow, it sounds like you've really put a ton of thought into your experience with the Cyberpunk 2077 DLC, Phantom Liberty. I get where you're coming from – wanting to stick to what you know and love about the original game can be a big deal, especially after investing so much time into it.Some Phantom Liberty Plot Spoilers here…
Don’t read if you don’t want to know.
I think I’ve become a curmudgeon in my old age and have set this DLC aside. After some significant progress in the DLC, I suddenly came to the realization that although I’ve enjoyed Dog Town, I don’t like how the main quest seems extremely important to devote all your attention to, yet the game throws all these other minor quests at you, like go steal some cars for me….
Based on my research, I do not care where this DLC story leads, because I’ve completed this game 3 times, I know the ending I want, (through research), the ending I don’t want (this DLC) and that this is just a detour, some busy work inserted in the middle of the original story that takes away from the main flow of the story as I have come to know it, possibly love it. A certain choice here can short change the original story, and I already know, I’ll politely decline the offer of a cure at the end of this DLC, because I don’t want to alter the original ending that I prefer. 🤔
I don’t have a problem with the rebuild of the skill tree as per update 2.0, but, I’m really down on the idea of plugging this DLC into the original game. I acknowledge that not all will agree with me.
There is a reason you’ll read comments like “play though the original game first at https://mr.bet/nz, and then via restart/skip ahead or revert to a saved game in the right spot to play Phantom Liberty”. It’s because this DLC screws with the original game, a certain choice here, cuts off other original endings. You maybe ok with that, because you always by your actions, chose a single ending, and you may prefer the new ending the DLC offers. My research indicates at least to me, that the new ending in the context of the story is a downer, although you are cured, you just lose everything else as far as relationships and your abilities.
Btw, after setting aside Phantom Liberty , and starting up Skyrim Enhanced version (at a midpoint where I left it to to play Starfield), I was awash in good vibes. Maybe I’m assimilated. That is how powerful the Elder Scrolls environment can be. The music is a significant mood addition to environment. Gosh, I’m even thinking about a redo of Fallout 4, again!
The way you describe it, it seems like the DLC might mess with the vibe you've come to enjoy in Cyberpunk 2077. It's cool that you've done your research and know exactly what you want out of the game's endings. Making choices that could potentially alter those endings is a big deal, and it's totally understandable that you'd want to avoid any curveballs the DLC might throw your way.
It's awesome that you're finding solace in other gaming realms like Skyrim and Fallout 4. Sometimes, diving into a different game can give you the breather you need from the intensity of Cyberpunk 2077. Plus, those games have such immersive environments and killer soundtracks – it's no wonder they're drawing you back in!
In the end, gaming is all about personal preference, right? It's totally cool to prioritize certain aspects of a game and skip over others if they don't float your boat. Thanks for sharing your gaming journey with us!
Cyberpunk 2077- What they should have done is create Phantom Liberty as a prequel! Although all the Johnny in the DLC would not be there, this would have made good sense IMO.
I fired up Cyberpunk, its been a while, so I figured why not. I could have picked up where I last left off, but I think the game changed so much, and I've been away for so long, I'll restart the game.
From what I can see, CDPR made some major changes to the game mechanics, setting up the attributes looks a little different then last time (or I forgot about the details).
I'm just getting to the first major quest, and I have a couple of thoughts
First, I really wished game developers would standardize on the same action keys. They sort of did with WASD but each publisher uses a different key for the action, or pick up. This makes life a little cumbersome when trying to re-program my muscle memory.
Secondly, the game graphics puts to shame Starfield. Never mind the lack of loading screens, I mean the general look and detail. While I like the look and feel of Neon in Starfield, it does a better in its theming, the details, and visual acuity of the game is really top notch.
From what I can see, CDPR made some major changes to the game mechanics, setting up the attributes looks a little different then last time (or I forgot about the details).
I'm just getting to the first major quest, and I have a couple of thoughts
First, I really wished game developers would standardize on the same action keys. They sort of did with WASD but each publisher uses a different key for the action, or pick up. This makes life a little cumbersome when trying to re-program my muscle memory.
Secondly, the game graphics puts to shame Starfield. Never mind the lack of loading screens, I mean the general look and detail. While I like the look and feel of Neon in Starfield, it does a better in its theming, the details, and visual acuity of the game is really top notch.
Long forgotten the best of CDPR quit due to the greed of the owner. Want see what was possible Play Wither 3. As for Starfield, just no was garbage from the get go...
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I’m going to try a Witcher 3 again. The first time I spent too much time having my ass handed to me by low level mobs…I’ll have to research a solution for this.
There was a glitch in the matrix, and it double/triple posted his content
Something weird this end on the ISP, was double & triple posting everything, absolutely delighted....
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Time to strap on on your big boy pants this isn't CP2077 this is Witcher 3 written for and by adults, you'll be pushed to find a better RPG....
Unconvinced? can always breakout my persuader, he's got a special way with people...
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So I'm finding the game quite different, at least in the small things. Not much stuff to pick up in the city, and POIs before there was all sorts of things to pick and possibly resell - ala Bethesda. Now there's almost nothing. Loot has been curtailed as well seems like when you drop an enemy there's a good chance the weapon he had is non-functioning and can only be broken down
Combat seems a bit harder, perhaps its my inexperience in the game, but I am taking more damage and enemies are a seem more spongier.
I'm still trying to find my way around the game, in prior play throughs (not that I ever finished). I will say I am liking the idea of not having load screens.
Combat seems a bit harder, perhaps its my inexperience in the game, but I am taking more damage and enemies are a seem more spongier.
I'm still trying to find my way around the game, in prior play throughs (not that I ever finished). I will say I am liking the idea of not having load screens.