diamond.g
macrumors G5
Ah. Yeah 6000 series cards can do it, not gonna buy it again, going to wait for the PS5 version.
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Cyberpunk 2077 [Merged]
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MisterSavage
macrumors 603
Back in the Sony store with a warning message for PS4 owners. Ouch.
www.theverge.com
Cyberpunk 2077 returns to PlayStation Store with a big PS4 warning
More fixes will be released throughout 2021.
www.theverge.com
diamond.g
macrumors G5
On PC it is great. XSX/PS5 will get parity with PC features later this year.
has anyone tried it on a ps4 (non pro) with the latest updates?
I know Sony have said its rubbish but wonder if they are being too careful.
I know Sony have said its rubbish but wonder if they are being too careful.
Donfor39
macrumors 68000
my street kid fell victim to the streets shootout.
Though continuing from very early save point.
Combat seems very basic, only seen one or two screen tears.
Though continuing from very early save point.
Combat seems very basic, only seen one or two screen tears.
Dissapointingly the DLC will just be a new jacket for V, a new car and alternative appeerence for Johnny Silverhand.
In a recent AMA, a senior developer at CDPR said the following:
"People don't seem to be aware how difficult it is to create patches for a game that has been already launched," he said. "It's a process that takes a lot of 'finicking around' with existing systems. The main idea behind making patches is of course to improve a game, and not to end up breaking it more. How you need to imagine making fixes in a game works like is basically open heart surgery, right? You have this whole system that's sort of been working, and you need to get in and try to fix stuff around stuff without making sure everything else falls around it, or breaks around it."
"These fixes connect to so many other systems that turning one wheel somewhere else will actually cause [something] somewhere else to fall off. You need to make sure you don't mess with the entire system while you try to improve the state of it overall, and that's why sometimes it can take much, much longer to fix even small things than we anticipate."
There isn't a better way to put it: The game is f***d.
What remains to be known is if the new gen version which has been built from scratch, will be easier to patch and improve.
In a recent AMA, a senior developer at CDPR said the following:
"People don't seem to be aware how difficult it is to create patches for a game that has been already launched," he said. "It's a process that takes a lot of 'finicking around' with existing systems. The main idea behind making patches is of course to improve a game, and not to end up breaking it more. How you need to imagine making fixes in a game works like is basically open heart surgery, right? You have this whole system that's sort of been working, and you need to get in and try to fix stuff around stuff without making sure everything else falls around it, or breaks around it."
"These fixes connect to so many other systems that turning one wheel somewhere else will actually cause [something] somewhere else to fall off. You need to make sure you don't mess with the entire system while you try to improve the state of it overall, and that's why sometimes it can take much, much longer to fix even small things than we anticipate."
There isn't a better way to put it: The game is f***d.
What remains to be known is if the new gen version which has been built from scratch, will be easier to patch and improve.
It's not worth the name "DLC" imho. Just finished the DLC of FF7R, took me 18 hours to get everything. Tomorrow the DLC for Ghost of Tsushima hits and adds a whole new island to explore and new storyline. Now THAT are DLC's and when they promise people free DLC's, that is what everyone is expecting, not some cosmetic items. It's like they're trying to disappoint people...
And they now what a real DLC is, they've done The Witcher FFS.
And they now what a real DLC is, they've done The Witcher FFS.
Agreed. If a DLC is put on a 12 month roadmap and teased on several occasions, it should be a story extension.
I have a theory. A story extension was originally planned for spring. However the team has ended up spending a Fortune in USD on fixing the game.
They should consider writing the game off and moving on to a sequel. The NPC count on PS5 is so low in some areas that the game could be mistaken for an Alpha.
I remember reading when they promised that loads and loads of NPC's would have their own routines and a "life". Sounded awesome. Now it's NPC's from like a 15yr old game.
And Rockstar has shown that it's possible to do better than what CP2077 has given us, with RDR2 for example.
And Rockstar has shown that it's possible to do better than what CP2077 has given us, with RDR2 for example.
diamond.g
macrumors G5
I am a little bitter that they couldn't do a separate PS5 binary that runs the same NPC (or config) settings as the Series X. The current PS5 version is really just the PS4Pro game.
As hinted at in the quote above, it's exceptionally difficult for them to make changes/fixes that don't break something elsewhere. The game has been written in dirty code. Remember that the game and new physics engines were developed in parallel which is like driving a train while the tracks are being laid.
To keep things simple most multi-generation games simply run the PS4/XONE versions on the PS5/XSS without separate binaries. Unfortunately for the PS5, the PS4 is the lowest common denominator. Hopefully the next gen versions of the game will bring visual parity for the PS5.
MisterSavage
macrumors 603
In their defense the Witcher 3 had a long list of free DLC content (cosmetics, etc) and then 3 very large DLC paid expansions. That's what I'm hoping for with Cyberpunk.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
That really rubs me the wrong way, while I understand bug fixing/patching is not easy, but don't complain how hard it is patching post launch when you had a opportunity to release a product that wasn't stinking pile and broke so many promises..
I wasn't expecting much for the DLC, but just a skin or two seems kind of sucky.
That will be a tough sell when they can't even fix what they have. I think in the name of developer/consumer relations they should have provided a DLC that was a bit more robust, especially given how long its taken to roll out a DLC. I mean its nearly September
MisterSavage
macrumors 603
Agreed! I still enjoyed the story through all the bugs and would be interested in a proper DLC.
Queen6
macrumors G5
Well nothing in these "DLC's" that makes me remotely consider reinstalling Cyberpunk 2077. As for CDPR's comment they chose the launch date, they misled everyone to capitalise on sales with a broken mess of a game. Such words are simply insulting to the customers who all paid in good faith. I certainly wont be looking to waste more money on the game as it's so shallow there's little I can see they can do beyond dishing up more of the same.
Game is going nowhere fast and will take a lot more work to save it than CDPR is ever likely to want to come close to spending. CDPR cashed out and sold out it's customers simple as that...
Q-6
Game is going nowhere fast and will take a lot more work to save it than CDPR is ever likely to want to come close to spending. CDPR cashed out and sold out it's customers simple as that...
Q-6
panjandrum
macrumors 6502a
Don't know if there is a more appropriate Cyberpunk 2077 thread, but since this is the 'merged' thread I'm going to go ahead and ass-ume that this is the Cyberpunk place to be on MacRumors:
For those wanting to play the game at insane quality during the great GPU famine; Micro Center is sometimes selling GPUs at (or very close to) MSRP, 1 per household, in-store only. After about 9 months of waiting I finally managed to snag a 3080 Ti to replace my 2080 Super. I'm able to play consistently at 60fps 2560x1440 DLSS "Quality" mode with essentially all else maxed, including RT in Psycho mode. That includes some overhead for ReShade because I'm using SuperDepth3D to push the game into stereoscopic mode for my 3D display. (I'll consider trying to vorpX it to my HMD at some point in the near future).
It loses a bit without the 3D of course, but even though the game is a bit shallow (except for some stand-out moments) so far, it's sure glorious to look at. I would certainly recommend it at this point for gamers who like single player RPGs. Is it DOA or ME when it comes to character development? No, but it's OK, and in terms of the atmosphere it's, well it's the very first game in probably a decade to make me just go WOW (If you have a 3D display, trust me, it's worth learning how to game on it. Look at SuperDepth3D and vorpX):
For those wanting to play the game at insane quality during the great GPU famine; Micro Center is sometimes selling GPUs at (or very close to) MSRP, 1 per household, in-store only. After about 9 months of waiting I finally managed to snag a 3080 Ti to replace my 2080 Super. I'm able to play consistently at 60fps 2560x1440 DLSS "Quality" mode with essentially all else maxed, including RT in Psycho mode. That includes some overhead for ReShade because I'm using SuperDepth3D to push the game into stereoscopic mode for my 3D display. (I'll consider trying to vorpX it to my HMD at some point in the near future).
It loses a bit without the 3D of course, but even though the game is a bit shallow (except for some stand-out moments) so far, it's sure glorious to look at. I would certainly recommend it at this point for gamers who like single player RPGs. Is it DOA or ME when it comes to character development? No, but it's OK, and in terms of the atmosphere it's, well it's the very first game in probably a decade to make me just go WOW (If you have a 3D display, trust me, it's worth learning how to game on it. Look at SuperDepth3D and vorpX):
Absolutely. The game carried me through the boring lockdown month of December. No regrets. Got 36 hours of entertainment out of the game.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
That was (and is) Fallout 76 for me. I re-started playing March of 2020 and it has me hooked, especially during those times where we all were cooped up in the house.
Recently CDPR stated that they now only "aiming" to release the next gen versions of W3 and CP2077 in 2021.
In their defence, there isn't actually a single true open world next gen title out right now - not even a first party one.
In their defence, there isn't actually a single true open world next gen title out right now - not even a first party one.
NARadyk
macrumors 6502a
Rockstar has recently announced that the PS5 version of GTA V is going to be delayed from late 2021 to March 2022. Furthermore, the graphics in the trailer that they have released barely look enhanced.
I am actually veey dissapointed not just with Rockstar and CDPR but specifically Xbox and Sony.
Basically there is a big chance that w'll pass the 1 year anniversaries of their new consoles, without any proper next gen open world games available to buy.
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