There are 'plans' that are basically free with just 'a little' data.
I don't take my phone to the beach, so cellular on the watch would be nice. Just in case something happens...
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Daring Fireball: Apple Watch Series 3 to Feature 'All-New Form Factor' [Updated]
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
There are 'plans' that are basically free with just 'a little' data.
I don't take my phone to the beach, so cellular on the watch would be nice. Just in case something happens...
If you think that's what my quote states then you know no nothing about reading comprehension. There's nothing in my quote that says larger means more masculine. Absolutely nothing. My quote states, pretty clearly, that I'd like one of the watches to be more masculine. It's because I like watches with a masculine style. Additionally it states that I'd prefer the more masculine of the two to be larger . It's because I like larger watches.
A smaller watch can easily be masculine. I own several. I also own several larger watches. Most of those are masculine.
I don't see smart bands being a thing. They serve a purely aesthetic purpose to get you to want to wear your Watch more, and the user should not have to agonise between having to choose from a smart band which adds functionality but looks like crap vs a normal band which looks great but does nothing.
I doubt it. We will probably look back at round smartwatches in the future the same way we see smartphones with keyboards today.
The extra power generated this way probably wouldn't extend the battery life by more than a few minutes a day.
Yeah some people are very concerned about the straps changing. I don't see them changing the straps. Apple isn't that greedy. I agree it'll likely be exactly the same, but smaller bezels, thinner, or both.
Curious as to how they would make it bigger if the two focuses of the next generation are to add cellular (the bulkiest add on) and battery life (bigger battery wouldn't mean thinner).
Maybe by redesign they mean same same design, just thicker
For the Apple Watch to be extremely appealing to myself, Apple needs to do these things:
1. Open a watch face store specifically for watch faces from manufactures. Ie. Tag, Fossil, etc. to upload their own digital face design with possible custom tones specific to them. They can Charge for the design or make it free. Also have it open to all developers to design custom faces for free or a charge. This would increase the curb appeal of the product.
2. I’m cool with a square face. But round out the edges of the actual screen to match the curved edges of the actual design. It looks horrible when there’s a full screen image on the display and you see the rounded watch design and a square screen inside. It makes the product look dated. See the new iPhone mockups and how the screen curves, the watches screen should be the same.
3. Introduce a round face. Some people prefer a round time piece. Since they marketed this heavily as a fashion product they should appeal to more customers. Keep both the rectangle design and offer a round face. More variations will drive in more customers without making the product line up cluttered and complicated.
1. Open a watch face store specifically for watch faces from manufactures. Ie. Tag, Fossil, etc. to upload their own digital face design with possible custom tones specific to them. They can Charge for the design or make it free. Also have it open to all developers to design custom faces for free or a charge. This would increase the curb appeal of the product.
2. I’m cool with a square face. But round out the edges of the actual screen to match the curved edges of the actual design. It looks horrible when there’s a full screen image on the display and you see the rounded watch design and a square screen inside. It makes the product look dated. See the new iPhone mockups and how the screen curves, the watches screen should be the same.
3. Introduce a round face. Some people prefer a round time piece. Since they marketed this heavily as a fashion product they should appeal to more customers. Keep both the rectangle design and offer a round face. More variations will drive in more customers without making the product line up cluttered and complicated.
I'm pretty sure nobody looks at the television form factor that got us through the first 80 years of its history as evidence of being "technologically retarded."
I don't quite get what this reply of yours has to do with my original post about me liking the aesthetics of round watches.
Why are you suggesting you'd need a separate data plan? That makes no sense. You already don't have a separate data plan for your other devices. If you have both an iPhone and an LTE iPad, the data is pooled from the same plan, obviously.
You have to add the device to your plan at least that's how it works on my Verizon plan. It would be $20 or $30 (I forget) extra a month to enable the new device if I add an LTE iPad. The watch would be the same concept possibly is what he's getting at.
Some people like round watches, Apple doesn't offer one, so they ask for one. I completely get that.
What I don't get is people who actively defend the rectangular form factor for being superior. And not just from the objective angle in terms of usability, which it is with the current (!) OS, but also from the entirely subjective aesthetics POV.
Apparently some people are so insecure that Apple releasing a round Watch (even if it's only added to the range and not replacing the rectangular model) would somehow invalidate their preference for rectangular watches.
What I don't get is people who actively defend the rectangular form factor for being superior. And not just from the objective angle in terms of usability, which it is with the current (!) OS, but also from the entirely subjective aesthetics POV.
Apparently some people are so insecure that Apple releasing a round Watch (even if it's only added to the range and not replacing the rectangular model) would somehow invalidate their preference for rectangular watches.
I am not a fanboy and I have them both. Apple watch series one and Samsung gear 2. Apple watch is just so much better quality and better display. Though I like the rotating bezel on the gear, I don't find it too practical to view content like notifications, messages etc. It does look cool though. I think there is a reason why you don't see circular smart phone, circular PC Display. circular TV, circular cinema screen etc. Smartwatch is kind of miniature of these things now days.
No different to the phone as that won't last a weekend without recharging will it.
Yup.
While round is cool - and I'd be interested to see Apple's take on the round wristwatch - it's no longer practical.
While they couldn't go larger or (yikes) smaller, there's definitely room for the device to go thinner and still leverage the current "band market." In my 2 years of wearing my 42mm, I have never wished mine thinner. This is an instance where I'd rather see Apple go the other way: thick is the new thin. I'd be ok with a larger, chunkier face. 48mm? 52mm? My wife's 38mm was a mistake. The difference is tangible. On her smaller wrist, the 38mm looks ridiculous. 42mm looks perfect. Substantial but not overly so. In our opinions.
If you had thought for a moment instead of trying so hard to come up with a jerkish post, you'd have realized that I was talking about wrist computer watches.
Going with a square display took zero imagination or effort on Apple's part.
Aba, that's backwards.
Some people here claim you need a rectangular display to look at notifications, in the same way that people used to claim you needed a physical keyboard to type texts.
Both claims ignore the extra attraction of fashion and fun
If the sole reason to choose a smartwatch was to read the most text at one time, we'd all be wearing an old Samsung Gear:
But it's not. And Apple knows it, which is why they sell bands to help fashionably differentiate the watch for different owners.
Last edited:
They can keep it klunky-rectangle if they want, and I hope they sell a kazillion. But they won't sell one to me.
The feature set of the watch isn't just compelling enough on its own. I'd also have to like how it looks. Round would look splendid. Rectangular just makes the guys who built WatchOS look lazy.
The feature set of the watch isn't just compelling enough on its own. I'd also have to like how it looks. Round would look splendid. Rectangular just makes the guys who built WatchOS look lazy.
Yes. They increased the battery size greatly in series 2. As in the battery physically was the main contributing factor in series 2 becoming a full mm thicker which is absolutely substantial thickness increase and definitely the opposite direction most would want it to go. It needed the battery for the (occasional) 1000nit screen and the GPS support.
I don't have one. I have, however, read very conflicting anecdotes on Watch battery life, including plenty that suggest it lasts through a day just fine.
1) I agree, though I think battery tech needs to advance before this is possible. I also don't want a gigantic watch with a huge battery to support a display being on 24hrs.
2) I suspect Apple doesn't know how to effectively and efficiently control the inevitable copyright, trademark, and trade dress infringement that would occur.
The first third-party watch faces would probably be rip offs of: (a) Rolexs, Breitlings, and the like; (b) video game UIs such as Golden Eye N64 watch and the Fallout Pipboy, and the like; and (c) famous photographs or artworks, like a Dhali watch face.
This basically happened in the Android and Pebble's watchface stores, but to a much smaller degree because those products aren't as widely adopted and don't have the cache that Apple has.
Apple probably doesn't want to deal with checking for these things manually, and doesn't have a good system for doing it automatically.