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They increased the capacity of the battery by 33%. Whether they increased it massively/greatly or not is entirely dependent on if you consider 33% massive.
 
The crown really should go. It's a carryover from mechanical days that does not belong.

Scrolling with a mechanical crown is faster and more accurate than any finger swipe. And it doesn't dirty up the face. This is not unlike the original iPod and nanos, where screen size limitation meant navigation occured via a wheel.

Functionality aside, the chiseled details of the crown contrasting the smooth casing, look fantastic.
 
The thread title should be changed to include "little birdie" lol

I'd seriously consider buying the Apple Watch if this little birdie could make it thinner.
 
Scrolling with a mechanical crown is faster and more accurate than any finger swipe. And it doesn't dirty up the face. This is not unlike the original iPod and nanos, where screen size limitation meant navigation occured via a wheel.

Functionality aside, the chiseled details of the crown contrasting the smooth casing, look fantastic.
Fully agree. I set custom timers quite a bit and the crown makes this possible. I have a full case on my watch so the crown is almost hidden but still fully accessible.
 
I hope they get rid of the Digital Crown and replace it with a touch sensitive frame for scrolling.

The digital crown was ridiculous and made no design sense. For a touch sensitive frame for scrolling, it was Samsung that pulled it off recently from one of their smartwatches recently, which is what Apple should have done in the first place. I think the digital crown was a Jony Ive and Cook thing.
 
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I don't know much about the battery but I always liked the idea of the perpetual motion in the Rolex watch. Why couldn't Apple incorporate something like that into it's watch? Maybe they could then get more time, a week, a month, who knows. Why didn't they incorporate this tech in the first gen?

Many Watch Makers have 'Automatics' not just Rolex. I'm partial to Tag Heuer's Carrera in an Automatic. Rolex has an outstanding movement as well, but simply way too much of a 'Look at me Watch, like the AW.' Tag, and Omega are equal if not higher quality from an engineering point of view.

Apple would also be smart to look at technology similar to Citizen's Eco Drive to recharge a battery. It would be tough to do though, IMO, with the design theme of the AW. Round Dials are more efficient in such a system. As is a Mechanical Automatic.

So, neither will happen. :apple:
 
Interestingly, with Watch OS 4, Apple has made more use of a certain animation pattern: when scrolling through a list, entries enter the screen smaller and increase in size as they approach the middle of the screen, and then again shrink as they start to exit it. That would work well on a circular screen…

You can check it out here:
https://www.apple.com/watchos-preview/
 
Many Watch Makers have 'Automatics' not just Rolex. I'm partial to Tag Heuer's Carrera in an Automatic. Rolex has an outstanding movement as well, but simply way too much of a 'Look at me Watch, like the AW.' Tag, and Omega are equal if not higher quality from an engineering point of view.

Apple would also be smart to look at technology similar to Citizen's Eco Drive to recharge a battery. It would be tough to do though, IMO, with the design theme of the AW. Round Dials are more efficient in such a system. As is a Mechanical Automatic.

So, neither will happen. :apple:

From a fashion point of view, this is Apple's biggest mistake with the Watch. The people who like to wear watches, wear them because it's a fashion statement or it adds something to the wardrobe, that's why you might have a few watches each for a different occasion. But the Apple Watch looks like someone strapped an iphone to their wrist. It's ridiculous, the ultimate sign of a nerd. And the watch is still not good as a fitness or a medical device.

I'm secretly hoping that Apple would get back to the drawing board and create a beautiful watch first and just add a few useful Apple-esque tech things to it to spice up the deal. Maybe even drop the whole "Apple" name and go with a completely different watch manufacturer for the design, sale, and manufacturing, but keep the "designed for an iphone" logo. Right now, as a fashion item, the Watch has failed completely, imho.
 
Interestingly, with Watch OS 4, Apple has made more use of a certain animation pattern: when scrolling through a list, entries enter the screen smaller and increase in size as they approach the middle of the screen, and then again shrink as they start to exit it. That would work well on a circular screen…

You can check it out here:
https://www.apple.com/watchos-preview/
To illustrate my point, I made a very shoddy mockup of that animation in action on a circular watch (to see it in motion, click on the thumbnail):

 
1) I agree, though I think battery tech needs to advance before this is possible. I also don't want a gigantic watch with a huge battery to support a display being on 24hrs.

2) I suspect Apple doesn't know how to effectively and efficiently control the inevitable copyright, trademark, and trade dress infringement that would occur.

The first third-party watch faces would probably be rip offs of: (a) Rolexs, Breitlings, and the like; (b) video game UIs such as Golden Eye N64 watch and the Fallout Pipboy, and the like; and (c) famous photographs or artworks, like a Dhali watch face.

This basically happened in the Android and Pebble's watchface stores, but to a much smaller degree because those products aren't as widely adopted and don't have the cache that Apple has.

Apple probably doesn't want to deal with checking for these things manually, and doesn't have a good system for doing it automatically.

They already have to check for copyright and trademark violations in the current App Store (with varying degrees of,success) so I don't see this as significantly different.
 
The 1980s had round digital watches.

I'm talking about pixel addressable screens like the Apple Watch, not about square displays stuffed in a round case, or custom LCDs with hardcoded display sections.

But the Apple Watch looks like someone strapped an iphone to their wrist.

Pretty much.

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I think this is out of context; Steve said that the iPad 2 had an "all-new design" as well--thinner and tapered edges. This new form factor is probably a fancier crown and thinner; no way they will make something that ditches the bands.

Just one of the things that Steve could get away with saying which Tim Cook would be hounded for.
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I'm talking about pixel addressable screens like the Apple Watch, not about square displays stuffed in a round case, or custom LCDs with hardcoded display sections.



Pretty much.

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And the rumoured iPhone 8 looks like a large Apple Watch. Thin bezel all around the screen. No headphone jack.

Apple products generally scale from one to the next. iPhone and iPad are the most obvious example of this. But an iPad to a MacBook, to a MacBook Pro ... they're clearly one continuum, with Apple TV + HomePod awkardly separate.
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I don't have one. I have, however, read very conflicting anecdotes on Watch battery life, including plenty that suggest it lasts through a day just fine.

Agreed. I don't own one, but lots of people confidently say it lasts them two days.
 
There is not one shred of scientific evidence anywhere that supports the idea that LTE radios are bad for your heath. It's 2017, I can't believe people still say things like this...
Then why does Apple put in their iPhone terms and conditions that you should keep the phone more than a centimeter away from your head?
 
No way will they do round. EVery single app would have to be redone and updated.

Apple already did that when they went from the 3.5" iPhone to the 4" iPhone, to say nothing of the iPad. Developers didn't even blink at supporting multiple display configurations. The switch from 32 to 64 bit apps is the same, though not as visible. It's not as if when updating to 64bit, they will stop supporting 32bit. Again, the developers didn't blink. And specific to round and square, consider this -- many developers support the same app on Android watches as well as Apple square watches. Moreover, they support the same app on non-Apple square watches as well. So in many cases, developers are already supporting multiple screen layouts.

Can't see that happening. Every single AppleWatch app has been designed for a square screen, how would they suddenly translate to a round face? Or do you expect app designers to have to offer two versions of their app, one for square faces and another for round faces?

just like with the iPhone and iPad, the simplest and quickest way would be to simply reduce the app to a square display within the round circle, with the rest blacked out. Over time, just like the transition to the 4" screen and iPad, apps began to be customized to natively support the display for the device being installed upon. And yes, designers will support multiple screen layouts, just as they do already across many devices, and sizes. Each version taking advantage of the additional screen resolution and dimensions to expand capabilities. Apple makes this incredibly easy by offering a toolbox of default features and graphics to map existing developer graphics calls. So this is the least of the concerns.

I am not a fanboy and I have them both. Apple watch series one and Samsung gear 2. Apple watch is just so much better quality and better display. Though I like the rotating bezel on the gear, I don't find it too practical to view content like notifications, messages etc. It does look cool though. I think there is a reason why you don't see circular smart phone, circular PC Display. circular TV, circular cinema screen etc. Smartwatch is kind of miniature of these things now days.

Jony Ive stated that the AW was designed for quick glances -- anything more and one should pull out their iPhone. I for one, would not use my AW for reading lots of documents and messages. Most notifications and texts can be read in a round space, just as easily and quickly as a square. As for the rationale that there aren't square TVs and PCs, it's just kind of silly. These things are intended for a different purpose, and not worn on the body -- Jony Ive also stated that once a person wears something, there's an expectation of choice. And there's all kinds of exceptions to use cases for round screens, some speaking directly to the same kinds of use cases as an AW, like the gauges in an airplane and automobile. Moreover, I can easily see round TV screens becoming commonplace when the economics to make them are brought in line with current TVs. Think about this -- the iPhone is bringing us more and more vertical video. Currently that's viewed in in miniature in the middle of a 16:9 display in vertical orientation. An iPhone can be easily rotated to fill the entire display. A 65" TV, not so much. But what if a TV were round, such that a vertical image fills the same space on the same screen whether landscape or portrait orientation? Add to that a round design aesthetic which many customers and decorators would opt for. From a practical perspective a round display could properly show an entire IMAX screen without shrinking the display, or any letterboxed movie at the maximum size possible, not just that limited by a rectangle. So no, there's no reason to think there's no reason for round digital displays, or that they can't be just as effective, or better, as square displays depending on the purpose.
 
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They increased the capacity of the battery by 33%. Whether they increased it massively/greatly or not is entirely dependent on if you consider 33% massive.
33 of something so small is still very small.
[doublepost=1501949663][/doublepost]Bring on the camera please! I can then ditch the phone on runs and hiking and still snap beaut pics.
 
Interestingly, with Watch OS 4, Apple has made more use of a certain animation pattern: when scrolling through a list, entries enter the screen smaller and increase in size as they approach the middle of the screen, and then again shrink as they start to exit it. That would work well on a circular screen…

You can check it out here:
https://www.apple.com/watchos-preview/
This animation has been there since the beginning. Does it in messages app.
 
Scrolling with a mechanical crown is faster and more accurate than any finger swipe. And it doesn't dirty up the face. This is not unlike the original iPod and nanos, where screen size limitation meant navigation occured via a wheel.

Functionality aside, the chiseled details of the crown contrasting the smooth casing, look fantastic.
The crown must go. Just like the physical iPod wheel. It can be replaced with swipes on the edge or side of the watch. I think it’s something enevitable.
 
The utility of a round interface far outweighs a 4:5 display. The Apple Watch is just so ugly and gender neutral looking. Round watches automatically look best.

I would say your opinion is very subjective at best by stating "Round Watches automatically look Best". I for one, really like the rectangular design and I think it looks elegant enough with the stainless model paired with the link or leather band. I'm not saying I don't appreciate a round watch, but the current design certainly doesn't take away from the experience for me.

If anything, the rectangular design at least offer something contemporary or modern enough where it does not look dated.
 
Out of all the products Apple sells, the watch is the one product that carries a fashion 'burden', ie it's as much of a fashion accessory as it is a tool.

Remember this, if Apple releases a round watch, you'll be surprised how your psyche will instantly tell you how outdated all the square watches look in comparison.

My psyche beats up your psyche on the playground after school.
 
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