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Yes, think about that for a minute. Do you think he would comment and let everyone know that he had personally looked into it and agreed that there was "repeated" fraud if he wasn't confident that was the case? Some critical thinking would really help on MR.


Everything is a conspiracy. Apple's business model and success is based on being as evil as possible to all parties, at all times. Welcome to Macrumors.
 
Any company who's business model is dependent on a walled garden deserves what they get.
 
That may quickly backfire.
Imagine trying to hire a killer for your wife on craigslist (or on the dark-net, if you're not a total moron).
I believe the FBI has rooms full of people that answer to these requests...
And even if you manage to find a contractor that isn't a fed, what are the chances that he just doesn't rat you out - first to your competitor and then to the feds. After you've paid, of course?
You used hiring a killer for your wife as an example for writing fake reviews? Uh...
 
So basically one of the most effective way to beat your competition is to pay a malicious service to spam their reviews, and ultimately have them kicked out. Fantastic!!
 
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I would trust Apple on this. They know the damage this could cause to their reputation within developer community, so they wouldn't do it lightly.
At the same time Apple allowed an sticker app through that was clear about the ONE purpose of its existence being making messages look exactly lol a bkurninessage bubble.

My point is that I think people here give Apple way too much credit for their AppStore vetting process. This is likely an automated thing that may or may not be rectified. I was partner on YouTube and my account was just down (later reinstated by the dansgebwas done) erroneously.

It's possible the app developer was shady. I'm not arguing that's not the case. I just feel like people give giant companies way too much credence simply because they're giant companies.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. He released Dash 3 as a separate paid version from Dash 2 without adding almost anything worth the price of the upgrade. He also updated Dash 2 just to let people know they should upgrade to Dash 3. Basically an update announcing the next paid update, no new bug fixes or new features.
 
Unless of course you pay Apple. Because that's basically what paid ad spots are in App Store search results.
No they aren't. Fake reviews and fake star ratings are different. You can't pay Apple to get those. You can pay for an ad showing your app as-is, with whatever ratings people have given it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. He released Dash 3 as a separate paid version from Dash 2 without adding almost anything worth the price of the upgrade. He also updated Dash 2 just to let people know they should upgrade to Dash 3. Basically an update announcing the next paid update, no new bug fixes or new features.
I don't know the whole story, but I've seen that done by other devs and have no problem with it. I WANT to know if another version is out, and that's the only way possible to let everyone know.

Now, if an upgrade doesn't have anything new I want, then of course I'll decline to get it.
 
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Since this is a popular app, it would make more sense to contact the person behind with a warning - and maybe start a dialogue about the situation before just shutting the app down entirely...


Im guessing from Apple statement they have warned him before.

I did look into this situation when I read about it today. I am told this app was removed due to repeated fraudulent activity.
 
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Well, now we know what all of ATP will be about this week.
(At least it will be better than endless moaning about Twitter.)
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. He released Dash 3 as a separate paid version from Dash 2 without adding almost anything worth the price of the upgrade. He also updated Dash 2 just to let people know they should upgrade to Dash 3. Basically an update announcing the next paid update, no new bug fixes or new features.

Don't buy version 3. Simple.
 
Fears being an iOS developer... this feels really bad...

The Dash Guy did go public, hmmm I believe him somehow.
At Apple, now we need a quick public explanation, this can lead to mass dev loss...
But I hope Apple is right, if not i will rethink about "iOS first"... because "if Apple is not right" then this can hit every one...
 
While there may be no formal or further appeal process, the fact that Phil Schiller apparently reviewed it was the appeal.

The one thing that should be done, if it was not already, is informing the developer of the exact "repeated fraudulent activity."

As a Mac Dash user I want to take the developer's side, but it would be odd to go so far up Apple's chain of command and them be wrong. There is a small chance that sabotage or something could be involved.
 
This sort of stuff is precisely the worst part of a single gatekeeper to an App ecosystem / Place to earn your living.

The Mac still has the huge edge here vs iOS (for now....yikes)

If the Mac ever goes completely locked down like iOS, I'm pretty sure I'll have to leave. I just don't need or care for this level of dictatorship over an entire software platform. Just my personal preference.

I have to agree. While i understand Apple's intent — to provide a safe, trusted source for software — to shut doors in the faces of developers, without any opportunity for further communication or appeal, is just distasteful and not what I expect from my much-loved Apple. I hope they review this internally.
 
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Yep, no proof, no followup, no communications, no freedom, no fair chance, and not innocent, till proven guilty.

Why not just remove the fraudulent reviews and stop future fraudulent reviews. Will the answer is that Apple is too big to give a ****. But at some point, as the saying goes, since power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely it will continue to get out of hand until people quit buying from Apple. And that is one major reason for all of the negative comments on Apple here in MacRumors. You don't hear about it, but most developers have been subjected to this attitude one time or another, without one bit of malicious intent.
It's not a country. It's a corporation. The dev signed the agreement when he became a developer agreeing to the rules. If he broke the rules his booting was just. And of course he would deny it. If he was innocent. The no appeal thing will be bent
This is why I'll never buy an iOS device again. No supported way to install the apps I choose.
Unless you have Xcode (free download, no dev account required). Also, why should Apple let its users choose to install malware riddled software like android does? Feature, not a bug.
 
He already appealed and Phil got involved.

It's time for people to stop whinging and get behind Apple. If they say rules have been broken, I believe them. I trust Apple to make the best decisions for the platform and all of loyal consumers.

Just because some users want something as basic as an appeal process doesn't make people bad. Stop drinking that Kool-Aid.
 
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While there may be no formal or further appeal process, the fact that Phil Schiller apparently reviewed it was the appeal.

The one thing that should be done, if it was not already, is informing the developer of the exact "repeated fraudulent activity."

As a Mac Dash user I want to take the developer's side, but it would be odd to go so far up Apple's chain of command and them be wrong. There is a small chance that sabotage or something could be involved.
The question is, does Phil have the technical expertise to check this by himself, or did he just look at some false reports and said "okay, right that way". I think, Craig must step in this time.
 
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Really, we shouldn't have to freaking care.

Tear down this wall, Apple!

Just let developers distribute apps themselves via the internet. Make it so the process is the same as in OS X/macOS.
Uh... no.
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Sounds like another f.lux ordeal where it was killed by Apple and replaced with Apple's Night Shift. Why didn't Apple flag or remove the reviews instead of removing the app entirely which is extreme?
Because of the word "repeatedly"
 
"This is why"? You're basing your future choice of phone ecosystem on a headline and an article speculating what may have happened?

Well, hope you enjoy all the great apps on *pfftt* Android.
It must be hard to see with your head that far up Tim's rear.
 
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Apple in 2005= The best technology. Period.
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