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All of these constant bugs and unnecessary functionality changes (not just in the past couple of months, but I've noticed a decline in the past year or so) are making me consider something that used to be unthinkable. Next phone upgrade cycle I will be looking at Android phones alongside iOS. I've been a die hard Apple guy for a decade. I can't be the only person thinking this. When Apple starts to notice this trend in 3 or 4 years just reference my post as the reason :p
That line of thinking has already started. I still have the 6S running 10.3.3. The more issues I see happening the happier I am that I have not upgraded.
 
Aren't all these bugs what all the test processes, then all the private betas, then all the public betas are for? Why are so many major bugs still appearing in what should be the release version, and not even the first one? This is embarrassing.

This is not a minor bug by the way, what if you have your alarm set for an interview or meeting or whatever? I know phones are complex these days, but not even being able to count on the clock—the clock!— is pretty pathetic.

Anyway, why would 12:15 on December 2 trigger anything at all? Seems like such a random date/time. Must be something like it overflows 32 bits of milliseconds since January 1, 1970 or whatever.
Take your last statement and apply it to your 1 statement. You really think beta testers and public beta testers are going to try specific app notifications on a specific date/time to see if things go wonky? If this ONLY happened on that date and ONLY with certain conditions in notifications with certain apps? Really?!?!

Not defending Apple but thinking something like this would be caught by beta testers is a little off the wall.

And yes, iOS 11 and up .x.x seems to have had its share of bugs no question.
 
This was happening to me and I was about to throw my phone I was so pissed. I never would have known if I didn’t come to macrumors on my wife’s phone and happen to see that this was a known issue. I ALMOST went out and bought the new 8+ since I need a phone and I’m not going to have google data mining the crap out of me. I’m really starting to get fed up with these things happening at Apple. Steve would have blown something up over this.
 
That line of thinking has already started. I still have the 6S running 10.3.3. The more issues I see happening the happier I am that I have not upgraded.

Not quite ready to give up the 32-bit Apps either.
 
this is sad... i swear quality control is going down the drain, and its not just apple. not even within technology companies. this seems to be a trend for any corporation

Yep, you are right, seems that all corporations are looking at what the others do instead of developing properly their own stuff.
 
Glad I read this article, dealing with a friends iPad which is re-springing constantly. iOS 11 has been the worst in a LONG time. With things like this and the root bug this week I really really REALLY wonder what in the world is going on over in Appleland.
 
Getting really fed up of Apple now. Tonight my 18-month iPad stopped charging. Completely dead after upgrading iOS yesterday.
Had the root password issue last week and had to completely fresh instal High Sierra after MacBook Pro stopped mirroring to Apple TV 4K.
Very sad to see this continuing decline in a company that used to be so good.
 
Oh man. Reading through here seeing people write a post with the I.T bug while talking about rebooting, it just hammers it home.

Right now there is a ton of issues on software.

I'm not even going to get into hardware because I'll go off on a tangent...
 
Android for mobile and Windows for PC seem to be the more stable and reliable operating systems these days... come on Apple... you used to be better then this.

It's the usual cycle; one company gets big and starts slacking off on quality, and another comes in and produces a far superior product. Apple used to be the other company, now they're the ones who are getting shown up in every regard. Hopefully, this will lead to a decline in Apple at some point, causing them to really put out great SW and HW products again.
 
The bugs in iOS 11 have been pretty embarrassing so far. The calculator being straight up wrong if you enter digits too quickly is my favorite and it’s still not fixed. lol
My iPhone 5S is dying and needs to be replaced. Reading about things like this is not encouraging for getting a new iPhone.
 
They've had their share of things of that nature as well. No OS is perfect or even close to it.
Yes. I know that but the quoted poster brought nothing to the table but an attack on a competing OS. iOS is now having some of the same issues that android has. Complexity of the phones is causing these bugs. Not a simple phone anymore.
 
Agreed about the overall trend.

I saw this the other day:

https://twitter.com/Real_CSS_Tricks/status/934904607339372544

Too funny. I think there's some truth to it.

You may already know, but... Agile is really more about loosely defining the requirements so discovery doesn't have to be done all up front. It's also about chunking the work into three-week (or so) work periods, then sending for feedback. Also depends on if the project is a new build, or in maintenance.

It's not about haphazardly pushing code into production. That's the whole "move fast and break things" mantra. It seems to have been where Apple software has ended up, probably to no fault of the developers in the trenches. We may truly be in a Scully 2.0 era.

haha, great pic. Totally agree with your point.
However, Agile is hard to implement in right way, when you try to move fast and sending for feedback, Developer actually doesn't have time to think twice before they write, the final product end up is result of DEMO 1+2+3+4. It may work but the code is totally crap.
 
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For a company with the profits of Apple, rushing mediocre software out the door is not acceptable. Apple has, for years, ignored a significant problem with software development and quality and maybe its time for customers to stop fawning over this company with sycophant reviews and glowing social commentary and start asking (or rather demanding) to be treated with respect. Nothing worse then paying the most for a phone or computer and getting the worst software experience on the market today.
 
Anyway, why would 12:15 on December 2 trigger anything at all? Seems like such a random date/time. Must be something like it overflows 32 bits of milliseconds since January 1, 1970 or whatever.

Heard the first reasonable theory why things would go wrong on December 2nd, shortly after midnight.

There are often notifications that are scheduled one month ahead. To be more precise, 30 days ahead. Notifications that are scheduled on December 2nd, 30 days ahead, will run in the next year. Apparently some software "developers" cannot handle this situation.

That would also explain why some people had problems and others didn't. If you had an app that schedules reminders to appear 30 days in the future, you would have the problem. If none of your apps did that, you have no problems.
 
For a company with the profits of Apple, rushing mediocre software out the door is not acceptable. Apple has, for years, ignored a significant problem with software development and quality and maybe its time for customers to stop fawning over this company with sycophant reviews and glowing social commentary and start asking (or rather demanding) to be treated with respect. Nothing worse then paying the most for a phone or computer and getting the worst software experience on the market today.

https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2017/10/26/apple-is-facing-a-double-standard

Personally, if anything, I still feel that Apple isn’t getting the credit and recognition it deserves. Far from it.
 
My son’s Pro 9.7 is doing this respring regularly today on iOS 11.2!
He is trying to find out if is related to notifications.

Anyone else?
 
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