lol, I did caveat it as guesses and speculation. Just basing it off how suppliers and we work in the space our company occupies.Your theory would mean retail has better margins then AAPL saying this 48% discount is their cost. Not even close, this is an error. Best Buy as an example averaged 3.2% margins over last 10 years.
I can see one item, but multiple items at basically half price? If true, whatever employee let that through is probably in some hot water. Especially on a new apple product? It’s extremely rare they ever get discounts that big, you can’t even get refurbs that cheap.Company-wide directive went out pretty early in the day to stop allowing price matching on TigerDirect, but there are multiple reports of people squeaking through some matches before that directive went out. Not surprised at all that he got all that stuff. Really wish I’d been quicker on the draw.
Yes, that is what we are commenting on. Hello?Also, you think MacRumors would post a fraudulent site?
Even if that is the case which is possible, there is recourse when using payments such as Amazon Pay, PayPal or major CC’s. As was mentioned in previous comments, the need to check the Apple serial numbers and check the packaging. Don’t open any product you suspect of fraud and report that fraud with proof to the payment holder.Yes, that is what we are commenting on. Hello?
TigerDirect was bought by some China scam shop and is now a pass through for scam sellers that send you broken/fake stuff that is impossible to return. Everyone knows this.
Yes, I read that small print on Rakuten and tried anyway. I still got the cash back. 😉Friendly FYI. You don’t earn cash back on iPads for tiger direct on Rakuten.
Hey you might be right. These deals seem too good to be true, no argument here in that regard.Yes, that is what we are commenting on. Hello?
TigerDirect was bought by some China scam shop and is now a pass through for scam sellers that send you broken/fake stuff that is impossible to return. Everyone knows this.
Well if they bought the company it would seem like a red flag to suddenly stop supporting secure payment methods. But I'm guessing that many people will use regular CC# in their own form and they can use that info.I just think it’s weird if you’re running a scam to offer the most secure payment methods possible.
Link?I ordered "Apple BTO MBA M2 8C 8G 16GB 512GB 30W SPGR (Z15S000D2) (42636954)" for $808.99 + CA recycling fee, shipping, tax = $895.82. I would be super surprised if I receive it as it's almost certainly a pricing error.
It's dead, it seems. https://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1357930 is a way to get to it now.Link?
I ordered the exact same SKU haha, fingers crossed. But I doubt it as well, since it’s a Build To Order SKU and normally only has very limited stock. Even with Apple.com it takes ~2 weeks+ to ship..I ordered "Apple BTO MBA M2 8C 8G 16GB 512GB 30W SPGR (Z15S000D2) (42636954)" for $808.99 + CA recycling fee, shipping, tax = $895.82. I would be super surprised if I receive it as it's almost certainly a pricing error.
No way people that ordered will receive the product.These were probably all real. I knew when they were all weird configurations for one reason or another (see below).
I'm guessing these were all Apple overstock going into this quarter. And the sheer volume that needed to get sold and sold quickly. These prices can't linger long or they disrupt the value Apple gets in the full price and even educational/refurb channels. BestBuy/Target/Amazon would also get really mad even if they lost full price sales for any period of time.
Apple almost never misses like they did in Q4, so this one time only.
Other signs:
Tiger ran out of stock slowly over the day and across products and colors and didn't turn the links off at once.
Tiger specifically made these configurations show up at the bottom of the search results for "ipad pro" or "ipad air" or "macbook pro" under full price configurations. This is to not conflict with shoppers who didn't know about the sale or without the links. It's deliberate. Also when they didn't sell enough of the yellow 10th gen ipad, they promoted on the main page.
Here's what Apple misforecast the demand for last quarter:
Silver M2 iPad Pro 11s (128gb/256gb) - With the iPad Air and 10th gen iPad out, only businesses bought pros and they went for the high end configurations.
iPad Pro M2 12.9 - 128Gb configuations and 2TB Cellular configuration. No reason to upgrade. No demand on the low end and the highest end.
iPad 10th gen - Many many blues, and yellows in 64gb configurations, 64GB+Cellular. Retail price was probably too high.
M2 Macbook Air - weird configurations. lots of 16GB/256GB, some 16GB/512. Apple didn't have a lot of People who would upgrade to 16gb, yet only wanted 256gb/512gb storage.
13.3" M2 Macbook Pro - 24GB/1TB, 24GB/2GB, 16GB/1TB high end configurations all 50% off. These were amazing deals...
Apple studio display - nano-texture with the adjustable stand at $2299 retail was too much. so they cleared them out on Tiger at $1239.
** I couldn't justify upgrading my mostly at-home 2020 M1 MBA to fully configured M2, but the 24GB/2TB 13.3" MBP was perfect at $1250(!!). It's not a surprise Apple didn't sell a lot of these at $2400+ retail. Picked up a couple iPads too.
Yes I would say the biggest winners are the one with price matched product from the store.This is entertaining to see unfold what happened on TD side.
I can tell you some insights from my previous decades working in the supply chain that involved Apple, and Best Buy (and other major Apple retailers);
The cost that Apple’s largest retail partners get direct from Apple or through distribution channels are closer to the Apple Edu pricing consumers get. Maybe a couple percent less. Seriously, that slim margins. So even when they price match edu pricing at times, they make next to nothing on hardware. Margins are slightly more on accessories and services but not that much more. There are some performance related rebates if they hit certain purchase volumes on a quarterly basis but thats rarely reflected ahead of time in sell price and its only low single digit rebate % anyways. MDF $ may be passed through for certain initiatives but those usually fund other stuff and are also a small %. Retailers opportunity for more significant sales are on older gen stock. Apple usually drops costs on old with new version release, and retailers will scramble to buy up all existing old stock to have for all the annual shopping events (BF/BW etc.) but even those are slim margins and nothing close to this sale.
In addition, Apple, like most brands, are very firm on their MAP. As they want to protect their own stores and also retail partners. The sr management of every Apple seller is escalating this with Apple, even on the weekend. The price policing culture amongst the major retailers is real and crazy at times. I was a middle man in many of those call outs throughout my years. I would not be surprised that Apple legal team is already involved in this.
Although no one outside of Apple really knows Apples true cost of goods sold, my best speculation is its nothing close to 48% for main hardware. My guess is in the 30’s but only very sr management would truly know or see. The Apple account managers that sell to retail or disty would most likely see and work from a much higher cost. This is common throughout industries.
Lastly, the old TigerDirect had a very checkered relationship with Apple and other major brands because of their tactics. There is no way Apple would sanction this or even partner with the old or new TD to clear surplus. They dont operate this way. It degrades the brand and implodes the retail channel.
Even throughout the two or three recessions over the past 25 years, Apple didnt do sales like this. So this is 100% a rogue mistake, scam, hack, phish or marketing ploy by whomever TD is today. Im curious to see how this unravels. Feel bad for the frontline employees at retailers that price matched in error. Im guessing a hand slap is coming. As thats a major loss to the retailer!
Even throughout the two or three recessions over the past 25 years, Apple didnt do sales like this. So this is 100% a rogue mistake, scam, hack, phish or marketing ploy by whomever TD is today.
One more add, on the tiny chance that stock and price is legit, TD could have procured the inventory from a liquidation channel of some sort (like an auction or some other business liquidating these assets due to financial distress) But even if that was the case, Apple would not sponsor this and will do everything they can to protect the regular channel. Plus, why would TD leave money on the table and discount so deep on so many sku’s when they could make more money with similar viral response at even half the discount? This theory is not logical to me.
Re-read my message. I accounted for that.Although no one outside of Apple really knows Apples true cost of goods sold, my best speculation is its nothing close to 48% for main hardware. My guess is in the 30’s but only very sr management would truly know or see.
Lastly, the old TigerDirect had a very checkered relationship with Apple and other major brands because of their tactics. There is no way Apple would sanction this or even partner with the old or new TD to clear surplus. They dont operate this way. It degrades the brand and implodes the retail channel.
Even throughout the two or three recessions over the past 25 years, Apple didnt do sales like this. So this is 100% a rogue mistake, scam, hack, phish or marketing ploy by whomever TD is today.