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Dear Apple I just bought a Dell Monitor

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Tosser said:
Nuckingfutz:

Here's a 24" LED backlit monitor going for [continued after the link]

http://www.dealcatcher.com/forums/m_618296/tm.htm

US$279.20 after mail in rebate. US$349 retail.
Now, is that enough to vaporise your argument entirely?
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Although these monitors are not truly comparable to the Apple 24" ACD (TN vs. H-IPS) other than the LED back-light, when Dell does decide to build their new E-IPS Panel with LED back-light this whole debate will be moot for 99% of the buying public.

I know I'll buy one in a heartbeat! :D
 
Eww... that Dell has a junky panel and it's not even suited for computers! The aspect ratio will leave you with black strips because of the different aspect ratios of HDTVs and computers. Still, it's a great deal.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Eww... that Dell has a junky panel and it's not even suited for computers! The aspect ratio will leave you with black strips because of the different aspect ratios of HDTVs and computers. Still, it's a great deal.
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you need to open your eyes
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/01/12/lg-signs-5-year-contract-with-apple-for-displays/
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={40664FED-750E-43A5-8783-A0384E91AD45}
both Dell and Apple get the Raw LCD panels from LG and the plastic from some chinese company
APPLE DOES NOT MAKE THEIR OWN HARDWARE


your beloved macbook is probably made by Hon Hai or Asus. are you gonna "eww" them too?
apple is not and has never been the best, look at how many issues Macbooks have >> http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook
 
pr5owner said:
you need to open your eyes
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/01/12/lg-signs-5-year-contract-with-apple-for-displays/
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={40664FED-750E-43A5-8783-A0384E91AD45}
both Dell and Apple get the Raw LCD panels from LG and the plastic from some chinese company
APPLE DOES NOT MAKE THEIR OWN HARDWARE
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And you need to open your eyes. That Dell G2410 uses a TN film panel :

Dell G2410 5ms 24"WS TN Film

While the Apple LED ACD uses an H-IPS panel :

Apple LED Cinema Display 14ms 24"WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU6-SDA1)

It's no secret that TN film panels make for cheaper monitors, hence the price differencial even though the backlight is LED for both.
 
Dear Dell,

After experiencing your 'customer service', I will never again purchase any of your junk products.

Once my replacement 2408 comes in, I'm selling it and buying an ACD. Should have done that in the first place.
 
Alexjungle said:
Dear Dell,

After experiencing your 'customer service', I will never again purchase any of your junk products.

Once my replacement 2408 comes in, I'm selling it and buying an ACD. Should have done that in the first place.
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From the embers and into the fire, I see.

What weird desires some people have :eek:





:p
 
Dell has a 2408 which has a high quality premium panel. It has tilt, rotate, height adjustment, a lot of ports, usb hub. Comes with a 3 year warranty. Is cheaper than the ACD. Dell has awesome service (buy it from their business line, it's the same price) where they will NEXT DAY AIR a replacement monitor before you send it back (again have to buy from business line, same price).

The ACD has iSight, led back lightning, cheap speakers, and a charger for the macbook. Comes with 1 year warranty.


Isn't it obvious which monitor is better?
 
whitefang said:
Dell has a 2408 which has a high quality premium panel. It has tilt, rotate, height adjustment, a lot of ports, usb hub. Comes with a 3 year warranty. Is cheaper than the ACD. Dell has awesome service (buy it from their business line, it's the same price) where they will NEXT DAY AIR a replacement monitor before you send it back (again have to buy from business line, same price).

The ACD has iSight, led back lightning, cheap speakers, and a charger for the macbook. Comes with 1 year warranty.


Isn't it obvious which monitor is better?
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I've always had decent customer service from the Business side :), but not so great on the home/consumer end. Fortunately, I can stick with the latter if I run into a problem. ;)
 
KnightWRX said:
No, it's not. It depends on your needs. The Dell has a S-PVA panel and very bad input lag (50ms+) with CCFL backlighting, no webcam, no speakers, no charger.
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The input lag doesn't seem to be a wide-spread issue like the problem with the screen on the new Apple unibody 17" macbook pros. Again, the difference between a PVA and a IPS panel is at most minimal to the average consumer.

KnightWRX said:
no webcam, no speakers, no charger.
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The ACD has no HDMI, DVI, component, VGA, HDMI-Audio out. Also, the DELL can do color/screen adjustment VIA the monitor itself. The DELL also acts as a card reader AND a usb hub and is futureproof. Also, the DELL can have long cables. With the ACD, your MBP has to be right there beside it.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Eww... that Dell has a junky panel and it's not even suited for computers! The aspect ratio will leave you with black strips because of the different aspect ratios of HDTVs and computers. Still, it's a great deal.
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You are aware that both of your displays use 'junky' TN panels, right?
 
Monitors are a misunderstood piece of equipment by many computer users.
Lot of specs to compare, and as stated previously, the IPS panels are
quite a bit better and more expensive.

If you compare like monitors, the Apple is not a bad deal at all. Not to
say that the TN $300 type monitors don't do well for a lot of people.
 
skye12 said:
Monitors are a misunderstood piece of equipment by many computer users.
Lot of specs to compare, and as stated previously, the IPS panels are
quite a bit better and more expensive.

If you compare like monitors, the Apple is not a bad deal at all. Not to
say that the TN $300 type monitors don't do well for a lot of people.
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The apple is not a bad deal if you consider that for $800 you can have ONLY 1 port, very short cables, no guarantee of future compatibility, no rotation, no height adjustment, no color/screen adjustment using the monitor itself, and a 1 year warranty. If you want IPS, there's many more feature packed IPS based monitors out there than this crap.
 
whitefang said:
The apple is not a bad deal if you consider that for $800 you can have ONLY 1 port, very short cables, no guarantee of future compatibility, no rotation, no height adjustment, no color/screen adjustment using the monitor itself, and a 1 year warranty. If you want IPS, there's many more feature packed IPS based monitors out there than this crap.
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You are simply trying to take the features that are important to you and apply them to everyone. Being packed with features you won't use doesn't add value.

The only feature I see on your list that might add value for me is the warranty... but considering I've had pretty bad experiences with Dell support, and my Applecare was like $40 on Ebay that's washed away.

To you it's "crap" and to me it's the best display I've ever used.... ie people have different needs.
 
1. Pleeeezzzz learnzzzz da Englissh

2. Maybe you should so some research before you go to buy something

3. Why do we care about your Dell Monitor?

4. If you really want to go and *itch to Apple, send them and email. MacRumors is not affiliated with Apple in any way.

5. The 24" LED ACD is superior to any monitor that costs $300, and if you can't tell the difference, you don't deserve to have eyes.

Have a nice day,

Don
 
brentsg said:
Being packed with features you won't use doesn't add value.
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Could say the samething about the ACD. Speakers & webcam, two of the most useless features on a monitor. At least with the Dell, you actually get USEFUL features: a USB hub and a card reader which comes in handy (even though it's rare). And you got alot of inputs with dell which again, could come in handy.

brentsg said:
I've had pretty bad experiences with Dell support..
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You are simply trying to take your experience and apply them to everyone else. Secondly, you should've known to go with Business support.
 
whitefang said:
Could say the samething about the ACD. Speakers & webcam, two of the most useless features on a monitor. At least with the Dell, you actually get USEFUL features: a USB hub and a card reader which comes in handy (even though it's rare). And you got alot of inputs with dell which again, could come in handy.
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I would hardly call them useless. Although professionals may not make use of those features, I'm sure that someone with a Mini, or someone who wants to have a laptop that can be used as a desktop would make use of them.


whitefang said:
You are simply trying to take your experience and apply them to everyone else. Secondly, you should've known to go with Business support.
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I've had horrific experiences with Dell also. And when we did use our Dell desktop, we did have business support. Dell support sucks.

Don
 
whitefang said:
Speakers & webcam, two of the most useless features on a monitor...

You are simply trying to take your experience and apply them to everyone else.
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Hypocrite alert!

whitefang said:
Can you connect the new macbooks to the OLD ACD? How many times has Apple changed their display connector? Go away, troll.
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So, you're saying that years down the road when a new connection type comes out, you'll be guaranteed to be able to hook it up to this Dell display? Cuz that's what "future-proof" is.
 
Dmac77 said:
Dell support sucks.
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So does Apple support.

Dmac77 said:
I'm sure that someone with a Mini, or someone who
wants to have a laptop that can be used as a desktop would make use of them.
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Then they better have a BRAND NEW APPLE mini or APPLE macbook pro to connect it because the ACD will not work with ANY OTHER computer/laptop NOR will it work with Apple's ENTIRE PREVIOUS macbooks/minis/macs.
 
Guys and Gals - As said above, but I will repeat b/c I dont think everyone reads all the thread, or sometimes even the complete original post... The complaint is not the price!!!

The complaint the OP had was Apple doesn't sell a monitor for his (potentially) 6 month old laptop. I agree there are non-obvious differences between high end and lesser monitors (until you compare them in person) but thats not the point. The point is right now Apple sells TWO monitors. A super expensive (not saying its not worth it for some) 30 inch monitor thats complete overkill for 99% of us, OR a 24 inch panel that only works with the computers that JUST came out. I can understand advancing a technology, but a generation in between with DVI AND Display Port wouldn't be out of line.

And you cant compare this to a floppy disc - Apple sold computers for a time that had floppy discs and cd drives. Maybe not the imac, but by then the floppy was easing its way out already. Also, there were still stop gap measures in the case of an floppy, such as an external drive in order to move files and convert to CD. The equivelent here would be some sort of adapter to make the montor work on the "older" (as in a couple months lol) machines, if only for a little while. Apple didnt do this with their monitors - they picked a very abrupt change.

Lastly, the OP didnt bash our precious apple, he just made a statement. I like it when people are honest rather than apologetic towards apple. They make great products but cmon! These forums are great places to make your voice heard b/c I bet that there are more than a few apple employees who watch these boards. What perfect (and free) marketing research.

This board gets pretty hostile when someone says anything other than "I LOVE APPLE." Lets not be so rude, especially when the poster was not inappropriate in ANY way.
 
dejo said:
Hypocrite alert!


So, you're saying that years down the road when a new connection type comes out, you'll be guaranteed to be able to hook it up to this Dell display? Cuz that's what "future-proof" is.
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Future-proof is at least 2-3 years. Apple ACD is not future-proof because the older ACD don't support the new macs. So if you bought a older ACD last year, you're screwed. Apple has constantly changed connectors.

My Dell monitor from 3 years ago works with ANY non-apple computer.
 
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