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Is that why Apple had record breaking quarter after record breaking quarter?

There's this guy called Steve Jobs that was the reason for that. Kinda like how a guy called Bill Gates was the reason for Microsoft's early success.

You may wanna look up Steve Jobs.
 
Other rumors suggest Apple may be planning to introduce two versions of the iPhone 7 Plus - one with a single lens and a second with a dual-lens camera system that offers DSLR-like image quality with 2-3x optical zoom and improved performance in low light conditions.

iPhones certainly make great looking pictures, they do today and will get better. But please do not use DSLR like quality as a term because it just ain't so. First they do use the latest technologies as well and simply can use optics and sensors that are beyond what an iPhone will be able to reach.
 
Wrong. We pay the same monthly rate now as we did when we got $450 off the cost of the phone. You were right at some point, of course, but the day subsidies ended, my costs went up by $450 per line for every upgrade. Switching to one of the newer plans also doesn't reduce my cost (they're actually slightly more expensive).

It is easier to compare costs by comparing total phone+service costs for 2 years instead of comparing monthly costs.

I wouldn't go to a tier 2 manufacturer because I require very good manufacturer support; I can't wait a week if my device is lost/stolen/fails.

What does Apple do differently than Samsung when your phone is lost or stolen? Does Apple offer a free replacement or discount on a new iPhone?

In time, mobile applications will start to reach the scale of desktop applications. I'm still on a iPhone 6 Plus with 1gb of ram, so I can't really speak for how well 2gb of ram performs, but I absolutely hate only having 1 gb of ram. Apple doesn't tell me when it's going to close my apps or browser tabs to save ram. I flip over to one app too look something up, and when I go back to my original app, I find that my phone dumped it from the ram and I lost my work. This happens on a daily basis to me. 6gb is probably overkill, but as the processing power of these phones is increasing, and screen size and resolution is getting larger, apps are going to be using more ram. I can't possibly imagine how putting too much ram is as bad as not having enough. I frequently have to borrow my wife's phone while I'm doing something on my phone to prevent myself from losing my work. I don't see that happening if I had 6gb of ram.

That is not a ram problem. That is from poor app design. Mobile apps (on both Android and iOS, even since palm OS days) are suppose to save all temporary user data when the OS shuts them down. When the app is restarted, it is suppose to load back that temp data seamlessly without input from the user, so it appears like the app never shut down in the first place.
 
It will take more than the loss of antenna bands on the back, a better camera, and whatever else they can add into the existing form factor for me to upgrade. The 6s is fine, but unless there is something truly worth getting a new iPhone for, i’ll wait for the next form factor. And iOS is getting stale too.
 
First: Apple needs to lower the prices 100$/100 Euros for every iPhone or iPad it makes.
Second: The RAM must start at 32GB at minimum.

They don't need to lower their prices yet. Their products are still selling amazingly well especially right after they release them. I'm sure you meant they should have 32gb minimum of storage, not RAM, and I agree with that.
 
Please cite links that 'everyone knew it wouldn't work'. Thank you. Please don't speak for 'everyone'.


Google glasses released was a developer version. Which an actual fact, rather than opinion. As a developer version, people take the risk of buying it - and the product goes nowhere.


Google glass IMO was a great idea but the technology isn't here yet. The smart glass concept as visioned by Google I'm guessing will probably return- it's an obvious technology- glasses linked to Internet and used like a HUD with voice recognition / gestures.

In the meantime, there are other products such as the Garmin Varia Vision that are less capable but I really hope will sell well.





Except Google has a practice of calling everything "beta" even after it is clearly not. Glass was an industrial product that Google thought had a future as a consumer product. Maybe a future version will, but not the creepy product that they introduced to a lot of fanfare in 2014. The tech writers were all gaga for it, but pretty much everyone else knew it wouldn't work.
 
It's a major redesign haul year, so I expect big changes from Apple. Sweeping changes: water resistance, wireless charging, new bluetooth audio design, USB Type C or some new charging method to get "quick charge" in the mix, boost in display resolutions (1080p for 4.7, QHD for 5.5), more RAM for the Plus, iOS 10 bringing swift improvements, and some sort of killer feature that's unexpected from Apple.


Are you upgrading to the iPhone 7 in September? I agree with the list of improvements you listed. I usually upgrade every year. I have the SE now, came from the 6S.
 
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Are you upgrading to the iPhone 7 in September? I agree with the list of improvements you listed. I usually upgrade every year. I have the SE now, came from the 6S.

Yes, I am. I wonder how much the SE will resell at around the september mark? The 2017 model might be an "iPhone 8" because of the rumored switch to AMOLED and the like. Time will only tell.
 
This is reminding me of 2013 when everybody wanted Apple to move to big screens, yet they used the iOS 7 overhaul to buy time by distracting people from that (in a way). Perhaps this new iPhone won't bring much in terms of design, but iOS 10 will bring massive changes?
 
It's momentum, it's people replacing stuff they bought years ago and loved. Once Apple becomes known for cheap crap, the momentum works in reverse. It happened to blackberry and Apple is next.
I didn't think it's possible after the sheer number but great Apple is doomed post.
There's this guy called Steve Jobs that was the reason for that. Kinda like how a guy called Bill Gates was the reason for Microsoft's early success.

You may wanna look up Steve Jobs.
He's dead and Apple is thriving.
It is easier to compare costs by comparing total phone+service costs for 2 years instead of comparing monthly costs.



What does Apple do differently than Samsung when your phone is lost or stolen? Does Apple offer a free replacement or discount on a new iPhone?



That is not a ram problem. That is from poor app design. Mobile apps (on both Android and iOS, even since palm OS days) are suppose to save all temporary user data when the OS shuts them down. When the app is restarted, it is suppose to load back that temp data seamlessly without input from the user, so it appears like the app never shut down in the first place.
I start with a phone call to Apple..,
 
Can we have some actual numbers already? Not that I care, I would just much rather read facts than people's assumptions.
 
That is not a ram problem. That is from poor app design. Mobile apps (on both Android and iOS, even since palm OS days) are suppose to save all temporary user data when the OS shuts them down. When the app is restarted, it is suppose to load back that temp data seamlessly without input from the user, so it appears like the app never shut down in the first place.

That's something I didn't know. There are still a couple problems that I think will be rectified by more RAM that can't be rectified by better app design. Safari refreshes websites when I leave the tab, and when I go back, the website reloads. If I'm filling out a form it deletes all that info or if I'm buried somewhere in a long thread of comments, it starts me back at the top. Secondly is if I'm logged into an account. This is pretty much the same whether I'm in an app or on a website in Safari, because either way I have to log back in from the main screen with my credentials before I can get back to whatever I was doing. I'm really not very knowledgeable on the programming side of things, so perhaps maybe this is all bad app design (including Safari). I'll actually be pretty frustrated if all these problems still exist when I get a smartphone with more RAM. I'd really like to have the equivalent of a tiny computer in my pocket where I can truly multitask and tell it what programs to close when I'm done with them (and have access to the file system like I could with my Windows Mobile phone 10 years ago.)
 
This is reminding me of 2013 when everybody wanted Apple to move to big screens, yet they used the iOS 7 overhaul to buy time by distracting people from that (in a way). Perhaps this new iPhone won't bring much in terms of design, but iOS 10 will bring massive changes?

Who knows about iOS 10 changes, but it's the 10th iteration, so it has to be big. People are more focused on changing the body design and internals this time by. 4.7" and 5.5" provides two comfort zones for many consumers. Add the SE and everyone has a screen size for their needs.
 
What's amazing me is that people are already dismissing the iPhone 7 and it's not even been announced let alone released, there have hardly been any leaks and the iPhone is probably not even in production yet. It's a little unfair to judge something that isn't even out yet.

It is because the last few iPhone releases have not had any real innovation and they are expecting the same thing with the 7. Sure they had some new features, but no matter how emphatic Cook is about calling them innovations, they weren't. Bigger is not innovation, faster is not innovative, 3D touch is not innovation, pictures that move are not innovative, etc. Not only that, my 5s does just fine. I don't see any reason to upgrade it other than Apple pay.
 
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You fanboys have no worries for your stock price as you will buying the $80k Apple car won't you? I mean they will be producing a car that will sell in 100's!! Let's wait and see how well they sell when Tesla has a march over Apple in this arena. Making cars is a little bit more than making an Iphone.
 
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The reason is Ive.

He has a certain design language and seems not to be able to change that. Everybody will get tired after years and and years to look at basically the same thing. He is now also involved in UI design and that makes things even worse. Same look outside, same look inside. For what, like 10 years?

They need to change the designer. Or challenge him. He's had it too good for too long.

Sir Idiot Boy has always been a 1 trick pony.
 
Who knows about iOS 10 changes, but it's the 10th iteration, so it has to be big. People are more focused on changing the body design and internals this time by. 4.7" and 5.5" provides two comfort zones for many consumers. Add the SE and everyone has a screen size for their needs.

We don't really know much about IOS 10 at this point, with it being the 10th one Apple might have something special planned. I guess we will find out at WWDC.
 
Given that Kuo's "best case" scenario is below the low end of the range, I'm guessing it will have an impact. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I understand how financial analysis works. Kuo previously was optimistic that the iPhone 7 would boost sales and must have some inside source that the iPhone 7 is more like an "iPhone 6S-S", and so his hoped-for sales improvement will at best be delayed until 2017. The obvious risk is that Apple loses high-end customers to Samsung and Huawei and doesn't get them back in 2017.

I know from our past discussions that you know this stuff, so you also know how easily any hint of "manipulation" catches fire with the many here who believe that all financial analysis is a conspiracy.

I wonder what Kuo believes he knows now that he didn't know a few weeks ago. Seems like most of the iPhone 7 form factor and specs rumors have been around for longer than that.
 
Apple is asking the wrong question.

Samsung (with the edge) and other phone manufacturers are asking:

"How can we beat Apple by making the most innovative phone on the market with the newest technologies at an aggressive price point?"

Apple asks:
"How can we make an update that encourages everyone to upgrade ensuring we have fatter profit margins than ever?
 
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IMO Apple has peaked and its very slowly starting decline in all aspects (sales, brand, image, value... etc).

Apple is will be forced to start to lower their prices of the iphones (probably starting with the 7S next year), IF they want YoY growth. Just like they are lowering Apple Watch prices...

The problem is clearly that Apple is not innovating as strong as they used to do and the clearly the competition is as good if not better (often at much lower prices)! To be honest it is becoming harder and harder to bring big innovations into the smartphone market and that makes it more difficult for Apple to justify the USD 700 base price for the 16GB model.

I don't believe that Tim Cook has the same risk attitude as Steve Jobs had, when he successfully ventured into completely new product categories (like the ipod, itunes, iphone, ipad etc). And what Apple needs now is to go into a completely new product category that can change everything and make that new product a high-margin star product, while the iphone/ipads can become the lower margin (=cheaper) mass-market cash-cow products.
 
IMO Apple has peaked and its very slowly starting decline in all aspects (sales, brand, image, value... etc).

Apple is will be forced to start to lower their prices of the iphones (probably starting with the 7S next year), IF they want YoY growth. Just like they are lowering Apple Watch prices...

The problem is clearly that Apple is not innovating as strong as they used to do and the clearly the competition is as good if not better (often at much lower prices)! To be honest it is becoming harder and harder to bring big innovations into the smartphone market and that makes it more difficult for Apple to justify the USD 700 base price for the 16GB model.

I don't believe that Tim Cook has the same risk attitude as Steve Jobs had, when he successfully ventured into completely new product categories (like the ipod, itunes, iphone, ipad etc). And what Apple needs now is to go into a completely new product category that can change everything and make that new product a high-margin star product, while the iphone/ipads can become the lower margin (=cheaper) mass-market cash-cow products.
I don't think you have all of that correct. It makes for a great headline, but that is where it stops.
 
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