Yeah, Dell doesn't seem to be setting the PDA world on fire with their Axims. Just 'cause it has the Dell name on it doesn't mean instant domination. It's just another little revenue stream for Dell.
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Dell Digital Jukebox and Dell Music Store
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Yeah, Dell doesn't seem to be setting the PDA world on fire with their Axims. Just 'cause it has the Dell name on it doesn't mean instant domination. It's just another little revenue stream for Dell.
Whats the big deal?
Nothing. If Mr.Dell would put in a little of his own R&D and genuine effort in creating something new and not leech on the hard work, time, money and dedication that Apple has in creating these beautiful products for us. Its an insult and its wrong!. I thought Americans understood these fairly simple concepts and used them as guide and for the bases of doing anything in life?. Guess not.
Mr.Dell once said that
"Apple should be sold and the money should be given back to the shareholders."
and then turn around and do this?, its f**king retarded. I know that you do not know the full history between Apple and Dell but we do and so the these insults, rants, criticisms are justified.
Why no price/sizes announced?
The only reason is that (a) the price they could quote safely was too high for the size in question and (b) they are unsure they can go with the low price they would like.
I don't think the general public will pay much attention to this announcement. Now they would if Dell said, coming before xmas, a 20 gb model for 199.
Basicallly, you only delay the specifics if there's a problem.
Also, Dell's "music store" is likely to be provided by someone else and just rebadged. Probably it will also be one of the "premium services" in Windows Media player.
The general public can tell the iTunes is way better than WMPlayer. And it won't cost more to use iTunes so it's not like the battle of old where you have a superior machine, but more $$
iTunes, even more than the store, is the secret weapon nobody is paying attention to.
The only reason is that (a) the price they could quote safely was too high for the size in question and (b) they are unsure they can go with the low price they would like.
I don't think the general public will pay much attention to this announcement. Now they would if Dell said, coming before xmas, a 20 gb model for 199.
Basicallly, you only delay the specifics if there's a problem.
Also, Dell's "music store" is likely to be provided by someone else and just rebadged. Probably it will also be one of the "premium services" in Windows Media player.
The general public can tell the iTunes is way better than WMPlayer. And it won't cost more to use iTunes so it's not like the battle of old where you have a superior machine, but more $$
iTunes, even more than the store, is the secret weapon nobody is paying attention to.
Uhhh. What is "wrong" about what Dell is doing? It's called capitalism. In a mature industry there are basically only two ways to stay alive: be a price leader or an innovator. Only a very, very few companies can do both (Intel comes to mind).
Dell has chosen the price leader path, Apple has chosen the innovation path. They both have their challenges in terms of maintaining sustainable advantage. Short of bulletproof patent protection, Apple has to keep innovating at breakneck speed to stay in the game. Dell, on the other hand, better be looking behind its shoulder at companies like Legend in China that could easily be severely undercutting its prices in just a few years.
Re: Why no price/sizes announced?
Dell will still sell a ton of these, though. What they'll do is aggressively push it as an add-on when you buy a computer through their site. Imagine if it's a $200 add-on (or even less with special promotions). A lot of people are going to go for it. Unlike the Axim PDAs, which a lot of people intuitively know they wouldn't use, most people would find use for a portable music players.
An analogy: what percentage of the population used paper organizers before PDAs came along? Relatively few people are disciplined enough to actually use organizers. On the other hand, almost everyone has at one time bought a Discman or their predecessors the cassette walkman, so they would be able to instantly understand the appeal of a portable music player.
Dell will still sell a ton of these, though. What they'll do is aggressively push it as an add-on when you buy a computer through their site. Imagine if it's a $200 add-on (or even less with special promotions). A lot of people are going to go for it. Unlike the Axim PDAs, which a lot of people intuitively know they wouldn't use, most people would find use for a portable music players.
An analogy: what percentage of the population used paper organizers before PDAs came along? Relatively few people are disciplined enough to actually use organizers. On the other hand, almost everyone has at one time bought a Discman or their predecessors the cassette walkman, so they would be able to instantly understand the appeal of a portable music player.
well said. Why are people getting so worked up by this? Did you guys expect anything less of Dell? I'm wondering why it took them this long to pull this off. And to all the people who're dissing the player, if this thing is 75% as good as the iPod, it'll sell like hotcakes. Because Dell's gonna make it super cheap and there are a plenty of people out there who'll choose price over quality.
I'm not too concerned about whether the ipod is gonna succeed. I think Steve has a lot of tricks up his sleeves with the iPod. For all we know, they readying the release of the Next Big iThing.
I don't see the big deal with the similar menus between the iPod and dPod. Seriously, how many ways are there to make a UI for a music player? This type of menu system was well in use before the iPod ever came out, even in other mp3 players.
And the design........well, its simple, the buttons seem appropriately placed, and a rectangular-shaped object is a typical design, isn't it? Did you expect Dell to make an mp3 player shaped like a triangle? The rectangle shape is such a typical design that you can't really say that they're copying Apple.
Now the similarity in the colour of the system is a different story.....
And the design........well, its simple, the buttons seem appropriately placed, and a rectangular-shaped object is a typical design, isn't it? Did you expect Dell to make an mp3 player shaped like a triangle? The rectangle shape is such a typical design that you can't really say that they're copying Apple.
Now the similarity in the colour of the system is a different story.....
Re: Re: Why no price/sizes announced?
Why didn't they announce now it will be a $200 add-on. I mean the only thing dell can do is offer a lower price, but they don't offer it when the thing is announced. Why? Again, the only reason is because they might not be able to offer it for 200. There's some problem
Why didn't they announce now it will be a $200 add-on. I mean the only thing dell can do is offer a lower price, but they don't offer it when the thing is announced. Why? Again, the only reason is because they might not be able to offer it for 200. There's some problem
Re: Dell Digital Jukebox and Dell Music Store
What a revoluntionary idea. How did you guys ever come up with such a concept?
What a revoluntionary idea. How did you guys ever come up with such a concept?
Re: This is not negative
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Geez. Everytime another company announces something that competes with something that Apple 'invented' or 'innovated', the article gets hundreds of negative votes and a whole bunch of whining. Competition is a good thing. As somebody said above, imitation is the best form of flattery. The iPod is not going away, just as the mac platform has not gone away. But Apple WILL be forced to compete, either with price or features (hopefully both) in order to sell to the tougher market. If competition did not exist, we'd all be driving the first car ever invented, using the first computer ever invented, etc. Competition creates a desire to strive for better. In this case, it's Dell. To them, I say bring it on!
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Geez. Everytime another company announces something that competes with something that Apple 'invented' or 'innovated', the article gets hundreds of negative votes and a whole bunch of whining. Competition is a good thing. As somebody said above, imitation is the best form of flattery. The iPod is not going away, just as the mac platform has not gone away. But Apple WILL be forced to compete, either with price or features (hopefully both) in order to sell to the tougher market. If competition did not exist, we'd all be driving the first car ever invented, using the first computer ever invented, etc. Competition creates a desire to strive for better. In this case, it's Dell. To them, I say bring it on!
perhaps its true that the ipod has a much better interface and is much more intuitive, and was the innovator in the industry.
dell and "mainstream" america don't care though, unfortunately.
dell wants to make money as pointed out by the above posts,
and "mainstream" america sees dell as a leader and will buy dell's product because it is something that they feel is affordable an "new".
believe me, "mainstream" america still thinks apple products are way overpriced, too fancy, and don't have any software.
my thoughts on the dell jipbox.
horrible buttons and scroll (everytime you come to the top or bottom of the scroll you have to take your finger off and place it back at the top or bottom!)
>apple's scroll wheel allows you to always have your finger connected.
bloated frontside look with surrounding white border.
will probably be much cheaper then the ipod, however.
dell and "mainstream" america don't care though, unfortunately.
dell wants to make money as pointed out by the above posts,
and "mainstream" america sees dell as a leader and will buy dell's product because it is something that they feel is affordable an "new".
believe me, "mainstream" america still thinks apple products are way overpriced, too fancy, and don't have any software.
my thoughts on the dell jipbox.
horrible buttons and scroll (everytime you come to the top or bottom of the scroll you have to take your finger off and place it back at the top or bottom!)
>apple's scroll wheel allows you to always have your finger connected.
bloated frontside look with surrounding white border.
will probably be much cheaper then the ipod, however.
Heh if this dell ipod had a stronger bass, and about the same
or better sound quality, i'd get this over the ipod.
or better sound quality, i'd get this over the ipod.
Guys.. what do you expect.. would you expect any less from Micheal Leech Dell?
Of course they are going to come up with their own .. Jobs creates it Dell copies it.
The main point here is looking forward. The next step for the iPod is wireless and connectivity with cars. Now I am not talking about the bundle of a bug with an iPod.
Imagine this. You go to your car, instead of taking a cd magazine you take your just newly sync'd iPod. Plug it in your dash. Start your car up. On the Nav pops up the all familiar iPod menu. Or even better, BMW, Mercedes VW etc. have a little display window between the tach and odomter. Menu pops up right there and you choose via your steering wheel!!!
Then Jobs can tell Dell to go $%*& himself.
Of course they are going to come up with their own .. Jobs creates it Dell copies it.
The main point here is looking forward. The next step for the iPod is wireless and connectivity with cars. Now I am not talking about the bundle of a bug with an iPod.
Imagine this. You go to your car, instead of taking a cd magazine you take your just newly sync'd iPod. Plug it in your dash. Start your car up. On the Nav pops up the all familiar iPod menu. Or even better, BMW, Mercedes VW etc. have a little display window between the tach and odomter. Menu pops up right there and you choose via your steering wheel!!!
Then Jobs can tell Dell to go $%*& himself.
Its amazing how peoples perceptions change when the term Capitalism in thrown into the mix.. I could have excuse Mr.Dell if he would have contributed to the idea and improved upon it in some small way but he didn't. He just repacked the Apple concept and is now selling it at a lower price.
Good for Dell for moving forward.
Bad for Dell for making me feel sick at the sight of it.
Bad Dell, that in order to first start up your Dell you can't read a EULA that you can't even access without automatically accepting it.
Good for Apple for making something so sweet.
Bad for Apple, the time of iPod style monopoly is over (There were ones before but nothing that comes anywhere close as successful, Dell has the ability, as they throw it in or something snazzy like that for every Dell bought).
Bad Apple, no Windows iTMS yet? No International versions either of any kind? At least let a rumor slip to sate the rumor crowd, but officially say nothing as that is your style.
Bad for Dell for making me feel sick at the sight of it.
Bad Dell, that in order to first start up your Dell you can't read a EULA that you can't even access without automatically accepting it.
Good for Apple for making something so sweet.
Bad for Apple, the time of iPod style monopoly is over (There were ones before but nothing that comes anywhere close as successful, Dell has the ability, as they throw it in or something snazzy like that for every Dell bought).
Bad Apple, no Windows iTMS yet? No International versions either of any kind? At least let a rumor slip to sate the rumor crowd, but officially say nothing as that is your style.