Dell Digital Jukebox and Dell Music Store

[kaneda]

It is different...

It doesn't look like the ipod, you can tell by the way they put their battery meter to left instead to the right like an ipod.

http://www.chaosmint.com/macintosh/articles/dell-dj-digital-jukebox-h.shtml

If I am Dell engineer I would quit right now, such ashame.

 

[Tom Golden]

I realize this is way off the topic...but look at this thing....and you can get them bigger than this.....up to 92"

 

[Macmaniac]

I told you it was coming, if anyone one of you saw my post in the general thread I posted about a possible Dell iPod clone, and everyone yelled casue I said Dell was up to dirty tricks, but heh they were, copiers
Posted here first

 

[1adonis1]

How can u say this Dell MP3 player is a piece of crap when it's not even out yet. And as far as it being a rip off, i dont see it. It looks good and i hope they sell it for 200.00 bucks, maybe apple will drop the price of the low end iPods.

 

[Edot]

Scroll Wheel

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the iPod scrolling feature is much more useful than the Dell one. The fact that the iPod wheel forms a circle allows you to continuously school as well as accelerate. If you have to lift your finger like the dell scroll wheel then you lose these feature. When you have 40GB of songs, scrolling fast and accurately is EXTREMELY important.

 

[Wash!!]

If you want crap buy a DELL

Originally posted by 1adonis1
How can u say this Dell MP3 player is a piece of crap when it's not even out yet. And as far as it being a rip off, i dont see it. It looks good and i hope they sell it for 200.00 bucks, maybe apple will drop the price of the low end iPods.

If you want a low price ipod go to ebay and buy one and move on other wise shut and go buy a new one I paid $400 for my and don't mind, becuause it is the best music-juke box-portable HD-address book-calendar-a coolest device made so the fact that Dell is trying to copied is just so pcee but never will be able to get near the ipod, jut think about it, it has 6 years and no PDA has come close what the newton can do and still can. stop your whining..

 

[shadowfax]

Re: Scroll Wheel

Originally posted by Edot
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the iPod scrolling feature is much more useful than the Dell one. The fact that the iPod wheel forms a circle allows you to continuously school as well as accelerate. If you have to lift your finger like the dell scroll wheel then you lose these feature. When you have 40GB of songs, scrolling fast and accurately is EXTREMELY important.

i think that's a very prejudiced statement. i know from experience with mouse scrollers that such things can accelerate and be just as useful as the iPod wheel. it's a pretty minor engineering issue, much easier than the one with an iPod wheel, and putting acceleration on it.

 

[1adonis1]

Re: If you want crap buy a DELL

You have used ONE mp3 player and you proclaim it to be the best, that's foolish.

Originally posted by Wash!!
If you want a low price ipod go to ebay and buy one and move on other wise shut and go buy a new one I paid $400 for my and don't mind, becuause it is the best music-juke box-portable HD-address book-calendar-a coolest device made so the fact that Dell is trying to copied is just so pcee but never will be able to get near the ipod, jut think about it, it has 6 years and no PDA has come close what the newton can do and still can. stop your whining..

 

[Edot]

Re: Re: Scroll Wheel

Originally posted by shadowfax
i think that's a very prejudiced statement. i know from experience with mouse scrollers that such things can accelerate and be just as useful as the iPod wheel. it's a pretty minor engineering issue, much easier than the one with an iPod wheel, and putting acceleration on it.

Yeah you can accelerate without a constant force but it would be very sloppy with predetermined control of deceleration. I think you would often overshoot what you were looking for.

 

[MEANS]

cool it

Originally posted by shadowfax
here's one for you. what the hell is your problem? don't take it personally--any more than i should take your comment about the company my dad works for. he does a good job, and Dell is good at plenty of things. if they have some issues, well, such is life. steve jobs pisses me and a lot of other people off with very matched frequency.

again, how can you call this an iPod rip? isn't that like saying, oh god, look at that
Audi TT! it's a complete copy of the VW beetle. they took the arching roof, and, jeez, they even used wheels! what is the world coming to?

this is not some iPod rip. they are making their own brand of innovation. the control system is perfectly unique. and it's shaped like a 1.8 inch hard drive. big surprise.

no you look at it, it is a rip off. so all we can do is laugh cause that is what we expect from Dell and that's what we'll continue to get. and by the way the audi tt was designed by the same person who did the new bettle.....

 

[jaykk]

Hi res pic

Here is another hi res pic

its ugly, period.

 

[Wash!!]

Re: Re: If you want crap buy a DELL

Originally posted by 1adonis1
You have used ONE mp3 player and you proclaim it to be the best, that's foolish.

Wrong very wrong I have a collection of them from the irock to the rio yo named i tried then and I sold them all on ebay after I got my ipod. so please don't assume that, and the ipod not only mp3 it plays other formats acc, mp3, audioble books come name one "mp3' that can do that...please

 

[jettredmont]

Re: Re: Scroll Wheel

Originally posted by shadowfax
i think that's a very prejudiced statement. i know from experience with mouse scrollers that such things can accelerate and be just as useful as the iPod wheel. it's a pretty minor engineering issue, much easier than the one with an iPod wheel, and putting acceleration on it.

A mouse scroll wheel can accelerate, but the moment you take your finger off the scroller to move it back up to the top of the wheel for another pass, acceleration goes to 0 and you start over again.

I know of no mouse wheels that allow a constant and smooth accelleration as allowed for by the iPod wheel. Do you?

 

[shadowfax]

Re: cool it

Originally posted by MEANS
no you look at it, it is a rip off. so all we can do is laugh cause that is what we expect from Dell and that's what we'll continue to get. and by the way the audi tt was designed by the same person who did the new beetle.....

what does dell do that is a ripoff? they are a totally standard PC company. they have every class of laptop and desktop, as well as an extensive server line. they have their own fairly unique design, and have for a pretty long time now.

as to this dell "iPod rip," i still think that it's asinine to call it such. all cars have wheels and motors, and steering wheels, and gas pedals, and brake pedals. hell, most cars have windshields and doors too. and we don't say they're rip-offs. this dell is similar to the iPod. stop and think about that though. it's a 1.8 inch hard drive, hard drives are all shaped the same, and if you want to make the thing as small as possible, it had better be damn close to form fitting. the general method of navigation for a large library is basically what the iPod has set up. that's not really innovative or apple specific. the most distinctive thing about the iPod, the big wheel for scrolling, is nowhere near this thing. it's a different button altogether. this is not a rip-off. it's an mp3 player made by someone other than apple. does it make you people feel good to rail on dell? what's so bad about dell?

 

[MEANS]

Re: Hi res pic

its ugly, period. [/B][/QUOTE]

you got it, also did anyone notice it is curved at the top and bottom, it looks as if it will be easy to knock this iCopy (Dell) over, also the scroll wheel seems like it sticks out pretty far as well as the other control buttons, what will happen if you have this in your pocket.

 

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Lancetx
Personally, I'm glad Dell is around because I think competition is good and it forces Apple to continue to innovate so they can remain 2 steps ahead of the Dell's of the world.

Ha!

Were it not for the Apples of the world, innovation wouldn't happen. Apple innovates for innovation's sake (and profit), not to keep ahead of Dell.

Originally posted by shadowfax
again, how can you call this an iPod rip? isn't that like saying, oh god, look at that Audi TT! it's a complete copy of the VW beetle.

Volkswagen owns Audi.

Originally posted by SiliconAddict
Give me a break. First off your insult doesn’t even make any sense. Its siliCON not siliCONE as in computer parts?

Umm..silicon is what computer parts are made of. Silicone is what breast implants are made of. I'm not sure if that's the confusion here, but there it is.

Originally posted by Shadey
As a question that kind of relates to this, what do you people use your iPod's for anyway? I really don't see the practicality of it. I have a CD player in my car, so it's not like I would get the same quality with an RF transmitter.

I'm just looking for a real reason to buy one.

1. Carry your calendar and contacts on you.
2. Back up your data.
3. External FireWire hard drive.

 

[shadowfax]

Re: Re: Re: Scroll Wheel

Originally posted by jettredmont
A mouse scroll wheel can accelerate, but the moment you take your finger off the scroller to move it back up to the top of the wheel for another pass, acceleration goes to 0 and you start over again.

I know of no mouse wheels that allow a constant and smooth accelleration as allowed for by the iPod wheel. Do you?

yeah, my MS mouse would have scrolled really smoothly if my gfx card were fast enough to drive rapid page scrolling. the very nature of acceleration on either an iPod scroller or the dell is that it skips stuff to go down faster. this is by its very nature inaccurate, especially when you add in that its touch sensitive, so when the processor hiccoughs and freezes for those split seconds it really messes up your scrolling. a wheel more like the dellpod thing could actually be much more accurate than the iPod, in my opinion. the big point is, you're critiquing something that you have NONE, ZIP, ZERO experience with, and just assuming it has all kinds of inferiorities and issues that make it worse than the iPod.

 

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Volkswagen owns Audi.

what's your point? i'm sorry that my analogy was not accurate enough for you to get the gist of what i meant.

OMFG! that dodge ram is a TOTAL ripoff of that Toyota pickup! look, they both have headlights, wheels, seats, beds, windows, doors... the similarities are striking. someone should be suing someone here!

 

[MEANS]

Re: Re: cool it

Originally posted by shadowfax
what does dell do that is a ripoff? they are a totally standard PC company. they have every class of laptop and desktop, as well as an extensive server line. they have their own fairly unique design, and have for a pretty long time now.




as to this dell "iPod rip," i still think that it's asinine to call it such. all cars have wheels and motors, and steering wheels, and gas pedals, and brake pedals. hell, most cars have windshields and doors too. and we don't say they're rip-offs. this dell is similar to the iPod. stop and think about that though. it's a 1.8 inch hard drive, hard drives are all shaped the same, and if you want to make the thing as small as possible, it had better be damn close to form fitting. the general method of navigation for a large library is basically what the iPod has set up. that's not really innovative or apple specific. the most distinctive thing about the iPod, the big wheel for scrolling, is nowhere near this thing. it's a different button altogether. this is not a rip-off. it's an mp3 player made by someone other than apple. does it make you people feel good to rail on dell? what's so bad about dell?

hmm, let's see, the iPod rip, their soon to be "new" music store, their iMac rip as well...just to name a few(all within the past year!!!)

sure all cars have the items you mentioned now, but someone had to take the initiative to create theses items you mentioned, plus the creativity, and sure enough somebody like Dell would just copy it and claim it was their original idea....at least come up with another color besides white!!, I understand what parts are standard and that both companies have to design around those parameters, but Dell just takes the easy way out and doesn't try to make theirs a little unique. Hell they probably feel all flimsy just like their desktops....yes I do feel good ripping on DELL.

 

[MEANS]

Originally posted by Tom Golden
Has anybody ever seen this site it sure resembles apple's...but those are some sweet monitors they have imagin OSX on those..LOL

wow, wonder if the dell design team made that site....unbelievable...

 

[LinuxGigolo]

Originally posted by shadowfax
isn't that like saying, oh god, look at that
Audi TT! it's a complete copy of the VW beetle. they took the arching roof, and, jeez, they even used wheels! what is the world coming to?

Volkswagen owns Audi. And if I recall correctly, the Audi TT and Volkswagen Beetle share the same platform (... both based on the VW Golf which has spawned many variants: Jetta, GTI,...). But anyway.....

 

[Steven1621]

yet another example of the pc world making up for their shortcomings by copying apple. it should be taken as a complement.

 

[jaykk]

Here is what ZDnet's David_Coursey has to say about this one. I am very sure he is referring to DULLPOD. I feel sorry for the dell executives.

"I was recently visiting with a company I cannot name that's about to introduce a new, hard drive-based, hand-sized music player. It's a very nice unit, as far as I can tell, and the price seems reasonable enough.

But when they asked me if I liked their new baby, I had to tell them, "It's nice, but it wouldn't make me give up my iPod ." The people from the company nodded, in understanding if not in agreement.
"

read the full story here

 

[bellychris]

actually the scroll wheel like the mouse is a bad idea

the scroll wheel on the dells music player is good for webpages. But try to scroll through 1000's of songs. I dont see how it can be accelerated like the ipod is if you have to take your finger off of it. Well even if it is accelerated there is no way it can be as fluid as the touch sensitive scroll wheel on the ipod is

 

[scem0]

Re: Looks rubbish

Originally posted by Sol
Why would people choose the Dell Digital Jukebox over an iPod? It looks like a cheap rip-off and the iPod is allready compatible with Windows.

because Dell will have a reasonable price in all likeness.

scem0